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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:00 pm

fwiw, at my school's pre-recruiting panel (CCN), there were now-3Ls who said they didn't have an offer until october of last year. i know things have changed somewhat since then, but unless you've gotten dings from all your cbs, there is still a possibility you could get something.

also, keep in mind the hospitality suite resume drops you probably did--you likely won't be hearing back from those until they can assess how many acceptances they have from regular OCI interviews. that probably won't be till next month, because some offers given in august won't close till nearly the end of september...so there may be a chance of securing a cb through one of those. keep your chin up :)

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:13 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I just don't understand how you can strike out with so many, when the chances are with you once you move past one.

Depends on the market you're in and the firms you're interviewing with. I have 4 CBs so far, and the four firms are taking a combined total of 10-14 attorneys. A few of them are calling back waaaay more people than they are offering. One of the firms is calling back about 12 people from my school alone, and they're hiring 2 people. So it is really not that hard to strike out if the conditions are right.

For people with NYC biglaw CBs, I have no idea how you strike out with 6+ CBs.



I had a CB with this firm this week. Kind of crazy how many people they're bringing in for so few spots. Disheartening, for sure!

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:14 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I just don't understand how you can strike out with so many, when the chances are with you once you move past one.

Depends on the market you're in and the firms you're interviewing with. I have 4 CBs so far, and the four firms are taking a combined total of 10-14 attorneys. A few of them are calling back waaaay more people than they are offering. One of the firms is calling back about 12 people from my school alone, and they're hiring 2 people. So it is really not that hard to strike out if the conditions are right.

For people with NYC biglaw CBs, I have no idea how you strike out with 6+ CBs.



I had a CB with this firm this week. Kind of crazy how many people they're bringing in for so few spots. Disheartening, for sure!


Small regional firm?

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby MrAnon » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:24 pm

fwiw, at my school's pre-recruiting panel (CCN), there were now-3Ls who said they didn't have an offer until october of last year. i know things have changed somewhat since then, but unless you've gotten dings from all your cbs, there is still a possibility you could get something.


There were also jobless 3Ls who were not invited to the panel.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:27 pm

MrAnon wrote:
fwiw, at my school's pre-recruiting panel (CCN), there were now-3Ls who said they didn't have an offer until october of last year. i know things have changed somewhat since then, but unless you've gotten dings from all your cbs, there is still a possibility you could get something.


There were also jobless 3Ls who were not invited to the panel.


well yeah...i'm not discounting the existence of jobless 3Ls, just saying that it's not impossible that people with no offer at this point in time will eventually get something in a few weeks.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:16 am

Anonymous User wrote:I had a CB with this firm this week. Kind of crazy how many people they're bringing in for so few spots. Disheartening, for sure!


Me too. Maybe we are doing the CB at the same firm. Its like 5 CBs per offer. :|

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:00 am

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Anonymous User wrote:I had a CB with this firm this week. Kind of crazy how many people they're bringing in for so few spots. Disheartening, for sure!


Me too. Maybe we are doing the CB at the same firm. Its like 5 CBs per offer. :|

The medium sized firms in the Midwest are the absolute worst about this. They interview 20 people at 8 schools, call back 3-4 from each school, and then hire 3 or so. Getting a screener, or even a CB, is next to meaningless sometimes.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:10 am

Anonymous User wrote:2 screeners, only 1 through OCI. 1 CB from one, silence (presumed ding) from the OCI screener. Another CB from mass mail. Radio silence for weeks from both CBs, minus some encouraging replies to my TY emails.

Thinking I should mass mail more, but pretty sure that is hopeless. Median at ~T30.



UPDATE: Got a V100 offer, even though I only had 1 CB from OCI and 1 from mass mail.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:47 am

Woe to the Nearly Vanquished.

t25%/T1/LR
Eight screeners with three more coming this week (phase II OCI).
1 Callback (this week).
Four dings from early OCI, three firms still twisting in the wind, but probably dings.

I've got to nail this callback or else I must fade and go into the west.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:53 am

Fellows:
I emailed a firm last night and just got a call from them.
I guess mailing sometimes can work. Let's see.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:53 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:2 screeners, only 1 through OCI. 1 CB from one, silence (presumed ding) from the OCI screener. Another CB from mass mail. Radio silence for weeks from both CBs, minus some encouraging replies to my TY emails.

Thinking I should mass mail more, but pretty sure that is hopeless. Median at ~T30.



UPDATE: Got a V100 offer, even though I only had 1 CB from OCI and 1 from mass mail.


Congrats - must be a relief :)

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:57 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:2 screeners, only 1 through OCI. 1 CB from one, silence (presumed ding) from the OCI screener. Another CB from mass mail. Radio silence for weeks from both CBs, minus some encouraging replies to my TY emails.

Thinking I should mass mail more, but pretty sure that is hopeless. Median at ~T30.



UPDATE: Got a V100 offer, even though I only had 1 CB from OCI and 1 from mass mail.


Congrats. How did you get the mass mail cb? Did you do a screening interview with them and then a callback?

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:06 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:2 screeners, only 1 through OCI. 1 CB from one, silence (presumed ding) from the OCI screener. Another CB from mass mail. Radio silence for weeks from both CBs, minus some encouraging replies to my TY emails.

Thinking I should mass mail more, but pretty sure that is hopeless. Median at ~T30.



UPDATE: Got a V100 offer, even though I only had 1 CB from OCI and 1 from mass mail.

School/market?

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:20 am

6 CBs done so far (4 to go). No offers, no dings. Even split between NYC and regional callbacks. I'm only 50% worried because the regional firms all have small class sizes (~5 people). I interviewed with my first NYC firm on Tuesday so....I'm hoping the lack of any offers is just part of the normal waiting time.

eek. about 1 more week with no offer and I will freak out.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Woe to the Nearly Vanquished.

t25%/T1/LR
Eight screeners with three more coming this week (phase II OCI).
1 Callback (this week).
Four dings from early OCI, three firms still twisting in the wind, but probably dings.

I've got to nail this callback or else I must fade and go into the west.


exact same stats and exact same boat as you. It sucks.....

Had the CB today. From my perspective it couldnt have gone better. But all my screeners felt the same way and got dinged on all but one. Bout ready to drown my sorrows.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:2 screeners, only 1 through OCI. 1 CB from one, silence (presumed ding) from the OCI screener. Another CB from mass mail. Radio silence for weeks from both CBs, minus some encouraging replies to my TY emails.

Thinking I should mass mail more, but pretty sure that is hopeless. Median at ~T30.



UPDATE: Got a V100 offer, even though I only had 1 CB from OCI and 1 from mass mail.


Congrats. How did you get the mass mail cb? Did you do a screening interview with them and then a callback?


Strait to callback. I was already going to be in the area of the firm when they arranged it.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:40 pm

It's still pretty damn early guys. This time last year I had done 6 callbacks with total silence. Then I got 2 offers during the September "teens" and then another one the first week of October (5 weeks post CB!). And last year didn't have all the weather problems of this year.

Chin up lads.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:It's still pretty damn early guys. This time last year I had done 6 callbacks with total silence. Then I got 2 offers during the September "teens" and then another one the first week of October (5 weeks post CB!). And last year didn't have all the weather problems of this year.

Chin up lads.

which firms were these?

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby romothesavior » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Woe to the Nearly Vanquished.

t25%/T1/LR
Eight screeners with three more coming this week (phase II OCI).
1 Callback (this week).
Four dings from early OCI, three firms still twisting in the wind, but probably dings.

I've got to nail this callback or else I must fade and go into the west.

Gonna head out Californeeway?

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:It's still pretty damn early guys. This time last year I had done 6 callbacks with total silence. Then I got 2 offers during the September "teens" and then another one the first week of October (5 weeks post CB!). And last year didn't have all the weather problems of this year.

Chin up lads.

which firms were these?


all over the place. 2 NY, 3 DC, 1 Philly, range from V20-nonVault boutiques. Offers would out me but were the boutiques and the V20

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Grizz » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:13 pm

romothesavior wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Woe to the Nearly Vanquished.

t25%/T1/LR
Eight screeners with three more coming this week (phase II OCI).
1 Callback (this week).
Four dings from early OCI, three firms still twisting in the wind, but probably dings.

I've got to nail this callback or else I must fade and go into the west.

Gonna head out Californeeway?

Unplugging your router and plugging it back in should fix your problem.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:33 pm

0/2 on August CB's from mass mails with one pending. Not totally shocking since I realized post-OCI that I am a terrible interviewer and am taking steps to fix that :lol:.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:35 pm

"Worried" cannot begin to describe where I am right now

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:"Worried" cannot begin to describe where I am right now


I pop in and out of that spot. It's been tough on my psyche. I talked with a 3L at my school who didn't get any offers out of OGI, and the best advice she had for me was something along the lines of "never give up." Sounds cheesy and extremely simple, but it's helped me from getting discouraged. Just gotta keep on blasting.

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Re: No Offers Yet- All Aboard the USS Worried

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:"Worried" cannot begin to describe where I am right now


I pop in and out of that spot. It's been tough on my psyche. I talked with a 3L at my school who didn't get any offers out of OGI, and the best advice she had for me was something along the lines of "never give up." Sounds cheesy and extremely simple, but it's helped me from getting discouraged. Just gotta keep on blasting.


What did the 3L do for 2L summer?




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