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Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:16 pm

Anyone know about callback to offer ratio?

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know about callback to offer ratio?


This is relevant to my interests. What school are you at?

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:20 pm

Offer today. I accepted.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:07 pm

Accepted my offer. Psyched.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Accepted my offer. Psyched.


How did you accept the offer (call, email)?

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:47 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Accepted my offer. Psyched.


How did you accept the offer (call, email)?


call.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Accepted my offer. Psyched.


That's awesome! What school?

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:50 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Accepted my offer. Psyched.


That's awesome! What school?


ccn

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:52 pm

Just turned down my offer at Katten, and will be heading to DLA Piper instead. Hope that clears up a spot for somebody.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:53 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Just turned down my offer at Katten. Hope that clears up a spot for somebody.


+1 except I'll be heading to Sidley. CCN transfer.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:18 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Just turned down my offer at Katten. Hope that clears up a spot for somebody.


+1 except I'll be heading to Sidley. CCN transfer.


+1 to clearing up a summer associate spot at Katten

Sounds like a lot of us turning down offers. Hopefully for everybody who still has yet hear, the yield will be lower this year, giving you a better shot at an offer. It was a tough choice for me, but I really liked the people I met at Vedder Price, so that's where I'll be instead. Good luck everybody! I'm at a non-T14 Chicago school (think Chicago-Kent/Loyola/DePaul) if that helps anybody.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:54 pm

Count me in! Very happy!

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:57 pm

Can people explain why they chose other firms over Katten, or for the people who accepted, which firms you were deciding between and why you chose Katten?

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:58 pm

I chose it over Vedder. Both great firms.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I chose it over Vedder. Both great firms.


Thanks for the reply! Why did you choose it over Vedder? I liked Katten, but I've heard some not-so-great things lately about the health of the firm and the exit options. Can you speak to this? I'm really worried about the general strength of the Chicago legal market (I have a couple offer from NYC firms too), except with firms like Kirkland and Sidley (*sigh* didn't even get callbacks from them though).

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:05 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I chose it over Vedder. Both great firms.


Thanks for the reply! Why did you choose it over Vedder? I liked Katten, but I've heard some not-so-great things lately about the health of the firm and the exit options. Can you speak to this? I'm really worried about the general strength of the Chicago legal market (I have a couple offer from NYC firms too), except with firms like Kirkland and Sidley (*sigh* didn't even get callbacks from them though).


What's wrong with the health of the firm?

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:08 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I chose it over Vedder. Both great firms.


Thanks for the reply! Why did you choose it over Vedder? I liked Katten, but I've heard some not-so-great things lately about the health of the firm and the exit options. Can you speak to this? I'm really worried about the general strength of the Chicago legal market (I have a couple offer from NYC firms too), except with firms like Kirkland and Sidley (*sigh* didn't even get callbacks from them though).


What's wrong with the health of the firm?


It just seems like when I've had informational interviews with Chicago partners, a lot of them have mentioned that the firm's not doing so well right now, and that the future outlook is not bright. I'm worried about spending my 2L summer there and either being no-offered because the firm goes downhill, or getting laid off as a 1st/2nd year associate.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:18 pm

I think you could say the above about almost any firm in Chicago not named Kirkland

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I think you could say the above about almost any firm in Chicago not named Kirkland


For what it's worth, they made it seem like Katten was going to be worse off than other Chicago firms considered "peer firms." I don't know how much stock to put in all this though.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:57 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I think you could say the above about almost any firm in Chicago not named Kirkland


For what it's worth, they made it seem like Katten was going to be worse off than other Chicago firms considered "peer firms." I don't know how much stock to put in all this though.


Maybe "they" have an agenda?

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:17 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I think you could say the above about almost any firm in Chicago not named Kirkland


For what it's worth, they made it seem like Katten was going to be worse off than other Chicago firms considered "peer firms." I don't know how much stock to put in all this though.

Only capital partners have access to the firm's detailed financial data. Similarly, law firms have to open up their books to partners looking to lateral to their firm, which is why it is helpful to look at the flow of lateraling partners. Looking at the last couple years, the partner turnover at Katten has been relatively low. The firm has lost a couple big-name partners, but they have picked up significantly more big-name partners than they have lost.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:23 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I think you could say the above about almost any firm in Chicago not named Kirkland


For what it's worth, they made it seem like Katten was going to be worse off than other Chicago firms considered "peer firms." I don't know how much stock to put in all this though.

Only capital partners have access to the firm's detailed financial data. Similarly, law firms have to open up their books to partners looking to lateral to their firm, which is why it is helpful to look at the flow of lateraling partners. Looking at the last couple years, the partner turnover at Katten has been relatively low. The firm has lost a couple big-name partners, but they have picked up significantly more big-name partners than they have lost.



Katten seems to be doing fine.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:00 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I think you could say the above about almost any firm in Chicago not named Kirkland


For what it's worth, they made it seem like Katten was going to be worse off than other Chicago firms considered "peer firms." I don't know how much stock to put in all this though.

Only capital partners have access to the firm's detailed financial data. Similarly, law firms have to open up their books to partners looking to lateral to their firm, which is why it is helpful to look at the flow of lateraling partners. Looking at the last couple years, the partner turnover at Katten has been relatively low. The firm has lost a couple big-name partners, but they have picked up significantly more big-name partners than they have lost.



Katten seems to be doing fine.


I agree. That's where I'll be next summer. Sure, it's not as prestigious as or maybe doesn't supply the same level of exit options as firms like Kirkland, Sidley, Mayer Brown, Skadden, Latham, Jenner, Jones Day, or Winston, but it's still a solid Chicago firm. I think we'll be fine.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:01 pm

It's very much in the same league as winston or jenner. it's just not Mayer, Sidley, Kirkland.

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Re: Katten Chicago

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:It's very much in the same league as winston or jenner. it's just not Mayer, Sidley, Kirkland.


Bro, it's nowhere close to being in the same league as Winston or Jenner. lololololol

But whatever makes you feel better about yourself.




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