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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:47 am

Is anyone with an offer concerned about their history of long deferrals and the fact that they are hiring at pre-ITE rates while still absorbing the deferred associates?

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Old Gregg » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:47 am

Anonymous User wrote:Is anyone with an offer concerned about their history of long deferrals and the fact that they are hiring at pre-ITE rates while still absorbing the deferred associates?


If you are not concerned, you should be.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:55 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Is anyone with an offer concerned about their history of long deferrals and the fact that they are hiring at pre-ITE rates while still absorbing the deferred associates?


If you are not concerned, you should be.



There is definitely cause for some concern... however, it's important to keep in mind that most firms have deferred associates and the longer deferrals (of one year rather than 6 months) were optional. Also, didn't Weil pay the deferred associates more than other firms? I actually talked to someone at Weil about the deferrals and he said that he did not anticipate that the firm would continue to defer because the system is unsustainable. Last year (and the year before) they cut the number of SAs for that very reason. I completely agree that it's something to think about, but I think it's something you should look out for with every firm.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Old Gregg » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:24 pm

Weil is starting the Class of 2011 in January... and gave them only a $10,000 salary advance.

And no, "most" firms haven't deferred associates this much. I know plenty of TTTs where Class of 2011 associates are starting or have started this month.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:38 pm

Fresh Prince wrote:Weil is starting the Class of 2011 in January... and gave them only a $10,000 salary advance.

And no, "most" firms haven't deferred associates this much. I know plenty of TTTs where Class of 2011 associates are starting or have started this month.



I agree it's something to be concerned about... And I agree that Weil has done it more than other firms and has continued to do it longer than other firms. I was just saying that a lot of firms have deferred people... and it's a risk you should consider regardless of where you choose to go.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:02 pm

Fresh Prince wrote:Weil is starting the Class of 2011 in January... and gave them only a $10,000 salary advance.

And no, "most" firms haven't deferred associates this much. I know plenty of TTTs where Class of 2011 associates are starting or have started this month.


How do you know that they are staring in January? I've heard that they are starting on time...

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:Weil is starting the Class of 2011 in January... and gave them only a $10,000 salary advance.

And no, "most" firms haven't deferred associates this much. I know plenty of TTTs where Class of 2011 associates are starting or have started this month.


How do you know that they are staring in January? I've heard that they are starting on time...



http://abovethelaw.com/2011/04/start-da ... any-firms/

Keep in mind that the c/o 2011 will be starting with some of the c/o 2010 that deferred until Jan 2012.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:29 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:Weil is starting the Class of 2011 in January... and gave them only a $10,000 salary advance.

And no, "most" firms haven't deferred associates this much. I know plenty of TTTs where Class of 2011 associates are starting or have started this month.


How do you know that they are staring in January? I've heard that they are starting on time...



http://abovethelaw.com/2011/04/start-da ... any-firms/

Keep in mind that the c/o 2011 will be starting with some of the c/o 2010 that deferred until Jan 2012.


D'oh... sorry I thought he meant SA class of 2011, which I heard was starting on time.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:35 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:Weil is starting the Class of 2011 in January... and gave them only a $10,000 salary advance.

And no, "most" firms haven't deferred associates this much. I know plenty of TTTs where Class of 2011 associates are starting or have started this month.


How do you know that they are staring in January? I've heard that they are starting on time...



http://abovethelaw.com/2011/04/start-da ... any-firms/

Keep in mind that the c/o 2011 will be starting with some of the c/o 2010 that deferred until Jan 2012.


D'oh... sorry I thought he meant SA class of 2011, which I heard was starting on time.


Perhaps. But the SA Class of 2011 will be much smaller than 2012, per the hiring partner. Just sayin'.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:13 am

Perhaps. But the SA Class of 2011 will be much smaller than 2012, per the hiring partner. Just sayin'.[/quote]



I'm sure they're not looking to expand the program again next year and then have to defer again.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:14 am

Offer (callback last week)

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:30 pm

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Anonymous User wrote: Perhaps. But the SA Class of 2011 will be much smaller than 2012, per the hiring partner. Just sayin'.




I'm sure they're not looking to expand the program again next year and then have to defer again.


Do you mean this in seriousness or sarcasm?

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:38 pm

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Anonymous User wrote: Perhaps. But the SA Class of 2011 will be much smaller than 2012, per the hiring partner. Just sayin'.




I'm sure they're not looking to expand the program again next year and then have to defer again.


Do you mean this in seriousness or sarcasm?


Different anon, but know quite a few people avoiding Weil based on concerns about deferrals, no-offer rates, and key partners leaving.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:39 pm

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Anonymous User wrote: Perhaps. But the SA Class of 2011 will be much smaller than 2012, per the hiring partner. Just sayin'.




I'm sure they're not looking to expand the program again next year and then have to defer again.


Do you mean this in seriousness or sarcasm?



In seriousness. Deferring associates every year is not a good business model. At some point they've got to stop doing it.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:24 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote: Perhaps. But the SA Class of 2011 will be much smaller than 2012, per the hiring partner. Just sayin'.




I'm sure they're not looking to expand the program again next year and then have to defer again.


Do you mean this in seriousness or sarcasm?


Different anon, but know quite a few people avoiding Weil based on concerns about deferrals, no-offer rates, and key partners leaving.


Didn't think they no offered except in 2009? Who left aside from IP group?

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:46 pm

Does anybody know Weil's expected 2012 SA class size? I know NALP says 36, but wondering if anybody has insight into whether that has changed. Thanks.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anybody know Weil's expected 2012 SA class size? I know NALP says 36, but wondering if anybody has insight into whether that has changed. Thanks.


Thought they were trying for 100 firmwide? Can you link me to the NALP 36 figure? Thanks

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:07 pm

Ahh! I just got an offer from a CB ages ago. My interview was on Tues. the 6th!

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Does anybody know Weil's expected 2012 SA class size? I know NALP says 36, but wondering if anybody has insight into whether that has changed. Thanks.


Thought they were trying for 100 firmwide? Can you link me to the NALP 36 figure? Thanks


There's an article out there that says they wanted 100 firmwide SA 2012. http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/amlawdail ... 8/oci.html


Anonymous User wrote:Ahh! I just got an offer from a CB ages ago. My interview was on Tues. the 6th!


Wow, that's good news. Hopefully NYC office? (Though I suppose not, given that those have seemingly come quicker...)

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:00 am

I'm the one who said "commencing despair." I got an offer a few days ago! Forgot to update. There is hope yet. Anyone know about how 3 partners and a few associates leaving the patent group is going to affect the rankings and work?

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:04 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Does anybody know Weil's expected 2012 SA class size? I know NALP says 36, but wondering if anybody has insight into whether that has changed. Thanks.


Thought they were trying for 100 firmwide? Can you link me to the NALP 36 figure? Thanks


There's an article out there that says they wanted 100 firmwide SA 2012. http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/amlawdail ... 8/oci.html


Anonymous User wrote:Ahh! I just got an offer from a CB ages ago. My interview was on Tues. the 6th!


Wow, that's good news. Hopefully NYC office? (Though I suppose not, given that those have seemingly come quicker...)



Yes, it was for the NYC office.

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm the one who said "commencing despair." I got an offer a few days ago! Forgot to update. There is hope yet. Anyone know about how 3 partners and a few associates leaving the patent group is going to affect the rankings and work?


Alright, I shall postpone my despair!

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:44 am

any weil updates? how long b/w cb and offer?

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:06 am

Anonymous User wrote:any weil updates? how long b/w cb and offer?


Weil NY offer after about a week and a day of waiting :) SUPER excited!!

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Re: Weil NYC Offers

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:51 am

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Anonymous User wrote:any weil updates? how long b/w cb and offer?


Weil NY offer after about a week and a day of waiting :) SUPER excited!!


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