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Anonymous User wrote:CN, no firm SA as 2L, cbs at two NYC V40s. Fuck the people who want to trade-up, I've heard of people trying to go from V10 to V5.
no. f all the people with 2.9s who decided to bid on vault 10 firms during 2L recruiting thinking they can sway the interviewer with their awesome people skills. if you wouldn't waste everyone's time and selfishly take interview spots, some of us wouldn't have to trade up.
I'm not the OP. Also, maybe it's different at other schools. But at my CCN school people with 2.9 GPAs didn't exactly bid on V10 firms. Hell, people with median grades rarely bid on places like Cravath, Wachtell, S&C, etc... If you want to believe that the only reason why you didn't get a V10 job originally was because a bunch of people with C+ averages selfishly stole your interview spots, then I think that you're borderline delusional.
you'd be surprised how often it happens. i've been in screeners with v10 where the interviewers directly complained to me about this happening.
you also somewhat missed my point. my point was that its dumb to blame other candidates for "taking interview spots." so what if prestige matters to someone so much that they want to trade up from a v20 to a v10. thats their business. yes it's unfortunate the top third at ccn struck out, but now you want fellow peers to try less hard to even out the playing field for everyone? i should stay at a firm that will make me unhappy for the small chance that i MIGHT take a job from someone. are you kidding me. should we also try to get more Bs so its easier for you to get As and bump up your gpa - after all law school grading is somewhat random too. your whole premise is just completely off.
you are just as delusional if you think the only reason you are striking out at 3L oci is because the v20 guys are trying to move into the vault 10. if you couldn't get a v100 during 2L recruiting, what the hell has changed that now qualifies you for a v10 job. if anything these guys are opening up more spots for you at lower ranked firms.
don't hate the player, hate the game.
Where did I say that you should stay at a firm that makes you miserable? There are plenty of great reasons to do 3L OCI (even if you already have an offer). For example, during 2L year you might realize that you're really interested in a practice area that your current firm lacks. Or maybe you have a significant other that gets a job in a different city and you want to move there. Or maybe you're just really miserable at your 2L firm. However, saying I'm at a V100, but I could be at a V20 doesn't seem like a great reason for doing 3L OCI (assuming that you like your current firm and everything). At the very least, just realize that you're going to piss off a lot of your classmates if the only reason why you're doing 3L OCI is to increase the prestige of your firm.
Also, OP wasn't directly blaming people for taking interview spots (hence my confusion). There's more to applying to firms as a 3L than doing OCI screeners.
What am I doing that qualifies me for a V100 firm job? LOL. The same shit that everyone else that got a firm job did. I.e. go to top school, get good grades, do journal, activities, etc... Don't act like post-2009 OCI is some kind of rigid science whereby everyone that got a firm job was inevitably destined for one. Realize that there's a huge amount of randomness to the process but also that once you get one firm down on your resume, suddenly you're golden for other firms too (kind of like how once you bang one hot chick in high school, all of the other chicks think you're the shit, even though nothing else about you has changed). Btw, just throwing it out there that I did get a callback at a V10 as a 3L (after striking out as a 2L), so I can't be THAT unqualified...