Anonymous User wrote:Not OP but I'm thinking very seriously about S&C. Can you explain more what you mean by individualistic? I also have the impression that they're a bit more egalitarian and progressive (liberal pro bono cases, partners eat in same cafeteria etc.) and the people seem extraordinarily nice, friendly and low-key compared to the firm's reputation.
I currently want to do lit and am trying to pick the firm where I'll get the highest caliber training and exposure to different practice areas in 2L summer and first couple years as an associate. The rotation system sounds too confining, but I'm concerned that S&C's generalist approach might be too ad hoc or unsystematic. Any thoughts on this? Aside from prestige, how does S&C compare to other V10s in terms of culture, mentorship & training?
"As a firm, Sullivan may be even more hard-core than most. “It’s not a very nice place,” says one lawyer who left, “and that’s the leadership of the firm, from the top down. They’ve turned a blind eye to it for years.” Says another, “Many partners think they’re gods, and they think the associates are worthless shit.” The attitude has led, some say, to unusually low associate morale: In the past few years, the attrition rate for Sullivan’s associates has been higher than the national average for large firms."
From http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/01/24/sul ... te-morale/
"But last February, the partners at Sullivan & Cromwell acknowledged that problems at its firm had become particuarly acute. A 74-page PowerPoint presentation entitled “Recruiting, Associate Morale and Retention” showed that associates were leaving the law firm in droves: S&C lost 31% of its associates in 2004; 30% in 2005. (The average associate attrition rate for law firms of 501 or more attorneys from 2002 to 2004 was 19%, according to a NALP study.)
Meanwhile, in the American Lawyer’s midlevel associate satisfaction surveys, the firm compared unfavorably against peers like Davis Polk, Cleary Gottleib, Debevoise, and Simpson Thacher. In the 2005 survey, it ranked 155th out of 160 law firms. Scribbled one person on a hard copy of the presentation: “We are breaking away from the pack in the wrong direction.” "