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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:59 pm

Any value in going to the after-interview reception for firms you interview with during OCI? Can a candidate ever truly make or break themselves here? Is it ever a pre-req to getting a CB?

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:On scheduling callbacks:

I will be interviewing through OCI with some of my most desired firms this coming Monday. The soonest I would be able to go on a callback with any of them would be a full 2 weeks later (the first week i have OCI interviews every day. The second, my school's Law Review requires its new members to be around for orientation/training for the entire week).

Is this kind of gap between OCI screener and earliest possible CB date a possible detriment to my chances of receiving an offer?


If I may--- I don't think any reasonable employer would hold mandatory Law Review events and other OCI interviews against you. And if they did would you want to work at such a place?

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby splitsplat » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:51 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:On scheduling callbacks:

I will be interviewing through OCI with some of my most desired firms this coming Monday. The soonest I would be able to go on a callback with any of them would be a full 2 weeks later (the first week i have OCI interviews every day. The second, my school's Law Review requires its new members to be around for orientation/training for the entire week).

Is this kind of gap between OCI screener and earliest possible CB date a possible detriment to my chances of receiving an offer?


If I may--- I don't think any reasonable employer would hold mandatory Law Review events and other OCI interviews against you. And if they did would you want to work at such a place?


I don't think any employer is actively holding going to those events against any single candidate. The issue is that offers are generally made on a rolling basis and the longer you wait, the less spots there will be.

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Icculus » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:On scheduling callbacks:

I will be interviewing through OCI with some of my most desired firms this coming Monday. The soonest I would be able to go on a callback with any of them would be a full 2 weeks later (the first week i have OCI interviews every day. The second, my school's Law Review requires its new members to be around for orientation/training for the entire week).

Is this kind of gap between OCI screener and earliest possible CB date a possible detriment to my chances of receiving an offer?


Your LR board should realize CBs are more important and trump meetings. Tell your EIC if someone wants you to come that week. Finding a job and all that entails trumps everything. Period. And upperclassmen know that.

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:52 pm

Do named competitive named scholarships at t14 schools, E.g. (Ruby, Darrow, Dillard, Hamilton) have any affect on your decision or if the applicant doesn't have the grades then that's that.

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby itbdvorm » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:26 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Do named competitive named scholarships at t14 schools, E.g. (Ruby, Darrow, Dillard, Hamilton) have any affect on your decision or if the applicant doesn't have the grades then that's that.


a feather in your cap. might help at margins

also, to whomever sent me a PM, you blocked messages so i can't send anything back

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:29 pm

Does anyone ever make partner and then retire after 5-10 years because they lived frugally and saved a few million? Or is chasing super-millions and having huge house too hard to resist?

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby jd20132013 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:09 pm

Can "aptitude" be learned with hard work or is it an inherent "got it or don't" thing.

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone ever make partner and then retire after 5-10 years because they lived frugally and saved a few million? Or is chasing super-millions and having huge house too hard to resist?


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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby itbdvorm » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:12 pm

jd20132013 wrote:Can "aptitude" be learned with hard work or is it an inherent "got it or don't" thing.


on some things, sure. attention to detail rarely comes naturally. "commitment" rarely improves...

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:19 pm

itbdvorm wrote:
did you summer together? just be open about it. lots of people date co-workers. not a big deal. might be different if a supervisor/supervisee relationship.


what about an SA dating an associate post-summer?

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby itbdvorm » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:32 pm

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itbdvorm wrote:
did you summer together? just be open about it. lots of people date co-workers. not a big deal. might be different if a supervisor/supervisee relationship.


what about an SA dating an associate post-summer?


happens sometimes.

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:01 pm

Hi, I asked about this on another board but thought you might have some insight. I got a screener for the DC office of a firm and the interviewer actually told me in the interview that my background was much better suited to the NY office. He advised that I resume drop the NY office. I received a ding from the recruiter of the DC office, and I have an interview with the NY office through my school. Should I still go on the interview with the NY office when I have already been rejected by the DC office?

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby itbdvorm » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Hi, I asked about this on another board but thought you might have some insight. I got a screener for the DC office of a firm and the interviewer actually told me in the interview that my background was much better suited to the NY office. He advised that I resume drop the NY office. I received a ding from the recruiter of the DC office, and I have an interview with the NY office through my school. Should I still go on the interview with the NY office when I have already been rejected by the DC office?


Sure? may as well tell them about the DC interview. DC is usually a tougher get anyway

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:42 pm

itbdvorm wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hi, I asked about this on another board but thought you might have some insight. I got a screener for the DC office of a firm and the interviewer actually told me in the interview that my background was much better suited to the NY office. He advised that I resume drop the NY office. I received a ding from the recruiter of the DC office, and I have an interview with the NY office through my school. Should I still go on the interview with the NY office when I have already been rejected by the DC office?


Sure? may as well tell them about the DC interview. DC is usually a tougher get anyway

Thanks for the response, I thought as much but was just worried it might have been like a "we already rejected you once, why are you wasting our time with another interview" or something.

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:33 am

I have a unique résumé. If I'm applying to firms with a particularly strong practice group in the field, how much of a boost do you think that might give me if my grades are weak?


Think along the lines of an astronaut applying to a firm specializing in space law.


Edit: I've already gotten one callback off a résumé that didn't include any grades, but I'm nervous I might get dinged when they learn about my grades
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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Devlin » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:32 am

Icculus wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:On scheduling callbacks:

I will be interviewing through OCI with some of my most desired firms this coming Monday. The soonest I would be able to go on a callback with any of them would be a full 2 weeks later (the first week i have OCI interviews every day. The second, my school's Law Review requires its new members to be around for orientation/training for the entire week).

Is this kind of gap between OCI screener and earliest possible CB date a possible detriment to my chances of receiving an offer?


Your LR board should realize CBs are more important and trump meetings. Tell your EIC if someone wants you to come that week. Finding a job and all that entails trumps everything. Period. And upperclassmen know that.


Absolutely this. This will not be a problem with your EIC.

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:33 am

Someone asked a question a page or so ago that went unanswered; I thought it was a great question, so I will ask again.


How important are firm receptions after OCI? If your interview was "meh" can you really improve your odds by hitting it off at one of these receptions? Or is the nail already in the coffin?

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:48 am

Anonymous User wrote:Someone asked a question a page or so ago that went unanswered; I thought it was a great question, so I will ask again.


How important are firm receptions after OCI? If your interview was "meh" can you really improve your odds by hitting it off at one of these receptions? Or is the nail already in the coffin?

At one reception I hit it off with a lawyer there. Similar background, similar interests. Turns out he's gonna be the OCI interviewer.
At another reception, an attorney I hit it off with wanted to introduce me to the hiring partner, but partner had already left. If hiring partner had been there and I'd have the chance to impress him/her, I can't imagine it wouldn't help, at least a little bit.

Go to the receptions. Unless you're socially inept it can't hurt

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:18 pm

How do rolling callbacks/offers affect schools like Chicago (who have OCI in early September)?

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby bdubs » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How do rolling callbacks/offers affect schools like Chicago (who have OCI in early September)?


You will be late in the door, esp. in cities that pull heavily from semester schools (i.e. not Chicago or SF) but it doesn't seem to be that big of a hindrance.

Top firms make lots of offers so they know how to estimate yield.

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Pokemon » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:00 pm

Icculus wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:On scheduling callbacks:

I will be interviewing through OCI with some of my most desired firms this coming Monday. The soonest I would be able to go on a callback with any of them would be a full 2 weeks later (the first week i have OCI interviews every day. The second, my school's Law Review requires its new members to be around for orientation/training for the entire week).

Is this kind of gap between OCI screener and earliest possible CB date a possible detriment to my chances of receiving an offer?


Your LR board should realize CBs are more important and trump meetings. Tell your EIC if someone wants you to come that week. Finding a job and all that entails trumps everything. Period. And upperclassmen know that.


+1000. Same with classes and everything. Your LR board will not pay you 160k after graduation, whereas the firm will.

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:35 pm

Devlin wrote:
Icculus wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:On scheduling callbacks:

I will be interviewing through OCI with some of my most desired firms this coming Monday. The soonest I would be able to go on a callback with any of them would be a full 2 weeks later (the first week i have OCI interviews every day. The second, my school's Law Review requires its new members to be around for orientation/training for the entire week).

Is this kind of gap between OCI screener and earliest possible CB date a possible detriment to my chances of receiving an offer?


Your LR board should realize CBs are more important and trump meetings. Tell your EIC if someone wants you to come that week. Finding a job and all that entails trumps everything. Period. And upperclassmen know that.


Absolutely this. This will not be a problem with your EIC.

anon, are you at uva? if so, i would not assume that this will not be a problem barring some kind of extenuating circumstances (i.e., something besides 'I want to do CBs asap'), and you should def talk to your EIC before scheduling CBs

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:37 pm

(brought it to the front b/c you skipped it. Anon b/c I'm asking around a lot about this online/offline)
Do you know how hard it is for foreigners to get sponsership for a green card from their BigLaw employers? Will employers sponser only if you're considered for partner or is it more flexible than that? Please tell me how your firm handles this.

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Re: V15 Senior Associate/OCI Interviewer Answering Questions...

Postby Icculus » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:40 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Devlin wrote:
Icculus wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:On scheduling callbacks:

I will be interviewing through OCI with some of my most desired firms this coming Monday. The soonest I would be able to go on a callback with any of them would be a full 2 weeks later (the first week i have OCI interviews every day. The second, my school's Law Review requires its new members to be around for orientation/training for the entire week).

Is this kind of gap between OCI screener and earliest possible CB date a possible detriment to my chances of receiving an offer?


Your LR board should realize CBs are more important and trump meetings. Tell your EIC if someone wants you to come that week. Finding a job and all that entails trumps everything. Period. And upperclassmen know that.


If that's the case, do the CB and drop the journal. Seriously that is some bull shit.

Absolutely this. This will not be a problem with your EIC.

anon, are you at uva? if so, i would not assume that this will not be a problem barring some kind of extenuating circumstances (i.e., something besides 'I want to do CBs asap'), and you should def talk to your EIC before scheduling CBs




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