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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:23 pm

Baker & McKenzie?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:30 pm

Baker Botts?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:40 am

How does this ratio usually vary with the school's rank?

The initial instinct I had was that a firm would have a lower ratio and a school that is down the rankings, because they take fewer SAs.

However, a lot of the lower T1 or higher T2 schools are primarily preselect -- all the top 5-10% are doing most of the screeners -- the best ones are getting most of the callbacks and presumably any given interviewee is less likely to accept a given offer. This leads me to believe it should counter the reduced numbers effect.

Would a firm react to this by giving out more offers? Or would they more likely delay offers to the "next best choice(s)" pending acceptance of their first offer(s)?

I think it is fundamentally true that many of the firms that do OCI at a regional T1/T2 school want to take at least 1 SA from that school to keep the relationship going...but obviously its much harder to be accurate when you're aiming at a yield of 1-2.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:00 am

MoFo LA?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:36 am

Anonymous User wrote:Debevoise?

About 50%.
Anonymous User wrote:Bingham (NY office)

About 25%, but sample size is small.
Anonymous User wrote:any info on sidley out there?

About 50% in NY, elsewhere sample size is too small.
Anonymous User wrote:Wilmer (DC)?

About 50%.
Anonymous User wrote:covington?

About 50%.
Anonymous User wrote:Baker & McKenzie?

Sample size is small, but about 15%.
Anonymous User wrote:Baker Botts?

About 33%.
Anonymous User wrote:MoFo LA?

No data.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:38 am

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Anonymous User wrote:So do these numbers only apply to Columbia students?


It is safe to assume that firms treat candidates who have already received callbacks as a relatively homogeneous group. Columbia is the most robust data set but hardly the only one available, and all of the spreadsheets, anecdotes, and tabulations to which I have access suggest that the numbers quoted in this thread are broadly accurate for all firms and all schools at which they hire from in significant numbers.

If you get a CB from a mailed application at a firm and you're the only one from your school, then the "CB:Offer ratio" is kind of a meaningless concept anyway, you're just in a different category.


I agree with this. And yes, the data is from Columbia. I've seen Harvard's data though (for the firms I had CBs at last year) and it was basically the same with minor variations.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:16 pm

I've heard around 25-30% for Dechert NYC. Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:16 pm

Can anyone will access to this sort of data provide information on Willkie far?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I've heard around 25-30% for Dechert NYC. Can anyone confirm this?

My data shows about 40%.
Anonymous User wrote:Can anyone will access to this sort of data provide information on Willkie far?

Also about 40%.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know about KL Gates?


also interested.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:21 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know about KL Gates?


also interested.


Roughly 50%, but small sample size.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know about KL Gates?


also interested.


Roughly 50%, but small sample size.


Any info on Seward & Kissel?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:25 pm

Willkie, shearman sterling or Gibson Dunn for NY?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any info on Seward & Kissel?

~50%
Anonymous User wrote:Willkie, shearman sterling or Gibson Dunn for NY?

Answered Willkie about 5 posts above this.

Shearman was 100%, actually. Only five people though.

GDC NY was about 80%.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:42 pm

any info on Schulte or Proskauer?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:any info on Schulte or Proskauer?


Roughly 80% and 50%, respectively.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:50 pm

Kirkland Chicago?

Winston Chicago?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland Chicago?

Winston Chicago?


No data, sorry.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:52 pm

Morgan Lewis NY?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

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Anonymous User wrote:any info on Schulte or Proskauer?


Roughly 80% and 50%, respectively.


All offices for Proskauer?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:54 pm

Clifford Chance?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:55 pm

Maybe no data, but Axinn Veltrop (NY)? Obviously it would be a tiny sample size

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Morgan Lewis NY?

33%, but very small sample size.
Anonymous User wrote:All offices for Proskauer?

New York.
Anonymous User wrote:Clifford Chance?

80%
Anonymous User wrote:Maybe no data, but Axinn Veltrop (NY)? Obviously it would be a tiny sample size

50%, but as you said small sample size.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:41 pm

Cahill or Cadwalader?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:29 pm

Ong, baker & mckenzie is only 15 percent from call back?!




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