Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:06 am

Blimpo12 wrote:
OnceUponAMemo wrote:
Blimpo12 wrote:Top 26% secondary. 5 interviews. Ready to killself.



Hang in there, I've talked to multiple people with less. Any idea why? Bidding on super-selective firms or whatnot?


Didn't bid on any super-selective firms. Just spoke to cpc and doesn't seem like resume has any glaring issues. Very weirded out right now.


i hope you are mass-mailing.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:44 am

Top 15%, secondary journal, some work experience

18 interviews

1,2,3,5,7,8,11,16,18,20,22,23,24,26,29,33,34,35

I targeted NJ and got almost all of the NJ firms coming to OCI. The rest are a mix of v50s and v100s.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011

Postby Blimpo12 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:47 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Blimpo12 wrote:
OnceUponAMemo wrote:
Blimpo12 wrote:Top 26% secondary. 5 interviews. Ready to killself.



Hang in there, I've talked to multiple people with less. Any idea why? Bidding on super-selective firms or whatnot?


Didn't bid on any super-selective firms. Just spoke to cpc and doesn't seem like resume has any glaring issues. Very weirded out right now.


i hope you are mass-mailing.


Since july but discouraged by this turn of events.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:23 am

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Blimpo12 wrote:Top 26% secondary. 5 interviews. Ready to killself.

I was around 23% + secondary and got around 14 last year. Did something go wrong with your bidding? Good luck, you only need one, and you definitely have a fair chance with those stats!


No offense to the 26er, but there is a huge difference between 26 and 23 at forhdam due to the way we rank our students. 23% = top 25% (anywhere from 11-25%), whereas 26% = 33% (anywhere from 26-33%). Because of that, I don't think anything went wrong with his bidding, it was the fact that you were in the second traunch of students and he or she was in the third. Fordham goes 10, 25, then 33.

I really hate the system, because it screws the people at the lower end of the group in order to help the people at the higher end. So, 26 gets screwed whereas 23 gets really helped. Similarly, 11% gets royally screwed.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby rockthelaw » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:43 am

To the above poster: Do you work at the school, or are you a student wagering guesses as to how the bidding system works?

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:27 pm

3.62 (top 10%) and LR.

22 interviews comprising almost all of 1-10 and more than half of 25-35. I purposely put the high prestige firms that don't historically make offers to self-selected students in the 25-35 range, and I think that strategy worked.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Blimpo12 wrote:Top 26% secondary. 5 interviews. Ready to killself.

I was around 23% + secondary and got around 14 last year. Did something go wrong with your bidding? Good luck, you only need one, and you definitely have a fair chance with those stats!


No offense to the 26er, but there is a huge difference between 26 and 23 at forhdam due to the way we rank our students. 23% = top 25% (anywhere from 11-25%), whereas 26% = 33% (anywhere from 26-33%). Because of that, I don't think anything went wrong with his bidding, it was the fact that you were in the second traunch of students and he or she was in the third. Fordham goes 10, 25, then 33.

I really hate the system, because it screws the people at the lower end of the group in order to help the people at the higher end. So, 26 gets screwed whereas 23 gets really helped. Similarly, 11% gets royally screwed.


I don't understand, is there some sort of computerized cut-off? I don't see how this would affect firms choosing students unless they are actively making a cut-off point at 25% or 10%. CPC allows you to put on your resume the 25% cut-off point even if you are 26% as long as you are doing "3.4X = approximately 25%" or whatever it was. And if you're 11%, then you can use the 10% mark on your resume. That's my understanding at least.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011

Postby OnceUponAMemo » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I don't understand, is there some sort of computerized cut-off? I don't see how this would affect firms choosing students unless they are actively making a cut-off point at 25% or 10%. CPC allows you to put on your resume the 25% cut-off point even if you are 26% as long as you are doing "3.4X = approximately 25%" or whatever it was. And if you're 11%, then you can use the 10% mark on your resume. That's my understanding at least.


This is correct. It's exactly what CPC told me to do.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:24 am

Anonymous User wrote:3.62 (top 10%) and LR.

22 interviews comprising almost all of 1-10 and more than half of 25-35. I purposely put the high prestige firms that don't historically make offers to self-selected students in the 25-35 range, and I think that strategy worked.


I am this poster:

Anonymous User wrote:Top 8-10%, non-LR secondary journal.

18 interviews. Probably bid on too many ultra-selective firms, but previous poster is right: The work starts now.


I employed a similar bidding strategy. I think I would have snagged a few more interviews with the 25-35 bid range "high prestige" firms if I'd made Law Review.

After reading this thread, it seems like LR gave people a nice boost.

EDIT: clarified my post.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby nyjfanjmk » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:41 am

I'm hoping one of you can answer a question I have. I'm transferring into Fordham (and can't fully participate in EIW which sucks a lot) and was told that we're not allowed to mass mail firms participating in OCI until after they interview on campus. So who exactly am I supposed to mass mail at this point? Or should I just cross my fingers and wait until next week to start?

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby OnceUponAMemo » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:28 pm

Edit: Reading comp fail. Ignore.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby MrAnon » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:46 pm

nyjfanjmk wrote:I'm hoping one of you can answer a question I have. I'm transferring into Fordham (and can't fully participate in EIW which sucks a lot) and was told that we're not allowed to mass mail firms participating in OCI until after they interview on campus. So who exactly am I supposed to mass mail at this point? Or should I just cross my fingers and wait until next week to start?


Wow. Come to our school, pay us thousands of dollars, but don't you dare contact a firm who is interviewing here. Are the OCI police going to arrest you for mass mailing an OCI firm? Start mass mailing EVERYONE you can immediately.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:14 pm

How may screeners is considered a "comfortable" amount?

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How may screeners is considered a "comfortable" amount?


This is relevant to my interests.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:04 am

nyjfanjmk wrote:I'm hoping one of you can answer a question I have. I'm transferring into Fordham (and can't fully participate in EIW which sucks a lot) and was told that we're not allowed to mass mail firms participating in OCI until after they interview on campus. So who exactly am I supposed to mass mail at this point? Or should I just cross my fingers and wait until next week to start?


I don't think this rule should apply to you, since you can't participate in oci. I know a transfer from last year who got a job during oci. Check again with cpc, and then mass mail anyway. The timing here is too crucial to pass up. You probably should hav mass mailed already
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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:10 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:How may screeners is considered a "comfortable" amount?


This is relevant to my interests.

None. I think you can feel comfortable when you have 5 callbacks or an offer.

But somewhere around 15 screeners it seems people do very well. Screeners mean nothing though, they really just correlate with grades.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:21 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:How may screeners is considered a "comfortable" amount?


This is relevant to my interests.

None. I think you can feel comfortable when you have 5 callbacks or an offer.

But somewhere around 15 screeners it seems people do very well. Screeners mean nothing though, they really just correlate with grades.


yeah which is the most important thing in getting your foot in the door...

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby OnceUponAMemo » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:32 pm

Good luck tomorrow everyone. I'm rooting for all of us here.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby DrGuano » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:25 pm

Good luck to all.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Riles246 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:33 pm

Grueling first day of interviews, I hope they went well for everyone. I am just bumping the thread in hopes that people will post their callback results as they start to come in over the next few days. Most helpful would be the firm name and the date of your interview (so we can see how many days there were between interview and callback). Thanks in advance!

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby yung » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:35 pm

first day went by pretty fast, anyone hear back already?

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby DrGuano » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:02 pm

yung wrote:first day went by pretty fast, anyone hear back already?


do people really hear back that quickly? i was expecting friday or monday.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Riles246 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:07 pm

DrGuano wrote:
yung wrote:first day went by pretty fast, anyone hear back already?


do people really hear back that quickly? i was expecting friday or monday.


Yeah I was expecting 3-4 days, although that's assuming I even get one lol.

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:14 pm

i got one today at the conclusion of my interview

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Re: Fordham OCI Thread 2011 -- All We Need Is One

Postby DrGuano » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:21 pm

Anonymous User wrote:i got one today at the conclusion of my interview


i imagine this is quite rare. congratulations.




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