WUSL EIW

[JCougar]

I've met as many people with an inflated view of the law school as I have people who have never heard about it. Sometimes, especially with academics, the reputation of the med school/undergrad/etc. carries the reputation of the law school on its back.

But yes, I do agree that there's enough people that go "WTF" when talking about WUSTL Law that I wish they could do something about it's spotty lay reputation. It's kind of hit or miss. Either people have never even heard of it, or they think it's totally awesome. It's funny...I had never even heard of the school until I started perusing TLS looking for law schools to apply to that take splitters, and I'm originally from the Midwest. We need WUSTL to have a famous sports team or be in a movie or some TV drama series. Apparently, hosting VP debates isn't enough.

[Anonymous User]

I've met as many people with an inflated view of the law school as I have people who have never heard about it. Sometimes, especially with academics, the reputation of the med school/undergrad/etc. carries the reputation of the law school on its back.

But yes, I do agree that there's enough people that go "WTF" when talking about WUSTL Law that I wish they could do something about it's spotty lay reputation. It's kind of hit or miss. Either people have never even heard of it, or they think it's totally awesome. It's funny...I had never even heard of the school until I started perusing TLS looking for law schools to apply to that take splitters, and I'm originally from the Midwest. We need WUSTL to have a famous sports team or be in a movie or some TV drama series. Apparently, hosting VP debates isn't enough.

hmm i think joe paterno is available for hire........

Even WUSTL's medical school residency placement isn't what you would expect from a top 5 medical school. I have a friend at WUSTL med who showed me the match list from WUSTL and UMICH and told me that the Umich match list is a lot stronger.

[Kabuo]

I've met as many people with an inflated view of the law school as I have people who have never heard about it. Sometimes, especially with academics, the reputation of the med school/undergrad/etc. carries the reputation of the law school on its back.

But yes, I do agree that there's enough people that go "WTF" when talking about WUSTL Law that I wish they could do something about it's spotty lay reputation. It's kind of hit or miss. Either people have never even heard of it, or they think it's totally awesome. It's funny...I had never even heard of the school until I started perusing TLS looking for law schools to apply to that take splitters, and I'm originally from the Midwest. We need WUSTL to have a famous sports team or be in a movie or some TV drama series. Apparently, hosting VP debates isn't enough.

Get some wustl film major to pen a rom com about a doctor involving the preftigous med school imo.

[mountaintime]

A possibly futile attempt to get this thread back on topic...

Did OCI over or underperform the expectations of those who were informed and realistic heading into it, or was it about what was expected? About what % of the class would you say biglaw dipped into? Still about 20?

Just trying to figure out what to possibly expect for next year (although the Dean says it's gonna be worse... awesome).

Pretty much exactly as expected IMO, always a couple of outliers but the majority fell in line with conventional wisdom from what I've heard. I know a median-or-just-below non-IP white dude who got V100. Obviously this isn't going to happen to more than 1 or 2 people in the class. I feel like we've got a shot at doing better than 20% for NLJ250 after graduation but who the eff knows, given the way midwestern offer rates go. Positive that at least 20% have NLJ250 SAs. Could very well be 25-33% with summer NLJ spots but a bunch get no-offered, since that's evidently the way it works once you get past the V100. IMO, if you're a straight white male (maybe female too?)... 10% you're golden for a big market and have a very good shot at cracking a tough small market if you want, top 15% should be good for some biglaw or approximation thereof, it's a tossup around top 20% and top quarter, top 1/3 your chances get pretty scarce, below that... best of luck.

IP changes absolutely everything... seriously, everything. URM can (maybe?) do the same to a lesser extent, I've heard that being female can be a difference-maker, but that's just what I've heard. No idea whether that's just grousing by d00ds or actually true.

can you post or PM me which market this was in? I don't want you to out that person or anything, but did they have stellar work experience or some other thing going for them? do you know, was that job secured via OCI or independently?

[Anonymous User]

Re: Wustl EIW 2012

This thread appears to be dead, but in the off chance someone might answer...has anyone noticed unreported (still pending) firms as showing up when you sort bids to "with invitations?" If so, any idea what that's about?

[Anonymous User]

Re: Wustl EIW 2012

This thread appears to be dead, but in the off chance someone might answer...has anyone noticed unreported (still pending) firms as showing up when you sort bids to "with invitations?" If so, any idea what that's about?

Same thing happened to me. Let's just say if it ends up being accurate, I'm going to be very, very happy. But who knows if it means anything. Probably doesn't.

[Anonymous User]

Re: Wustl EIW 2012

This thread appears to be dead, but in the off chance someone might answer...has anyone noticed unreported (still pending) firms as showing up when you sort bids to "with invitations?" If so, any idea what that's about?

Same thing happened to me. Let's just say if it ends up being accurate, I'm going to be very, very happy. But who knows if it means anything. Probably doesn't.

Weird. What region? Same thing for me with STL, CHI, and KC firms.

[Anonymous User]

Same for me. KC firms.

[Anonymous User]

I got some TX and Indy firms, too.

Edit: In addition to KC/STL.

[Anonymous User]

I got stl, chi, and ny(multiple offices) but I'm not sure if this means it's a preselect because some of the firms that show up for me are kind of unexpected.

[Anonymous User]

I am top third, secondary journal, and seeing an alarming lack of interviews (exactly 1, from my #1 bid, and I was an alternate) from EIW and the off campus NYC thing. Is anyone in my position seeing screeners? I was not expecting an easy ride to a firm job by any means, but I think I've been pretty smart with my bidding, and thought I should at least get some screeners.

Is it too early to panic?

[Anonymous User]

i only get midwest firms for the with invitations... what nyc firms are you getting back in the pending list under the with interviews search?

[Anonymous User]

when do lottery and alternate positions get decided?

[Anonymous User]

when do lottery and alternate positions get decided?

Lottery has not been decided yet? I figured it had since the only interview I did get was a bit of a reach and where I spent my #1 bid.

[TatteredDignity]

I am top third, secondary journal, and seeing an alarming lack of interviews (exactly 1, from my #1 bid, and I was an alternate) from EIW and the off campus NYC thing. Is anyone in my position seeing screeners? I was not expecting an easy ride to a firm job by any means, but I think I've been pretty smart with my bidding, and thought I should at least get some screeners.

Is it too early to panic?

Maybe we can get some 3Ls in here to comment on your situation. But, from what I recall from last year, Top 1/3 was really tough and depended a lot on work experience. I think people were seeing meaningful differences in success between top 25% and top 1/3. It's a tough zone to be in.

[Anonymous User]

Simpson thacher is up. Also confirmed if you look at with invitations it can be either preselect or alternate.

[Anonymous User]

Simpson thacher is up. Also confirmed if you look at with invitations it can be either preselect or alternate.

Does alternate mean lotto? I assumed it meant preselects turned it down so they went deeper.

[Anonymous User]

I'm not sure if it could be lotto. I bid simpson really low so I doubt it's lotto. Although I don't know how they determine lottery.

[Michael Bluth]

I am top third, secondary journal, and seeing an alarming lack of interviews (exactly 1, from my #1 bid, and I was an alternate) from EIW and the off campus NYC thing. Is anyone in my position seeing screeners? I was not expecting an easy ride to a firm job by any means, but I think I've been pretty smart with my bidding, and thought I should at least get some screeners.

Is it too early to panic?

What markets did you bid? And yeah it's probably a bit early to panic, but it probably wouldn't hurt to send some targeted mailings to non-OCI firms in markets you have ties to.

[Anonymous User]

I am top third, secondary journal, and seeing an alarming lack of interviews (exactly 1, from my #1 bid, and I was an alternate) from EIW and the off campus NYC thing. Is anyone in my position seeing screeners? I was not expecting an easy ride to a firm job by any means, but I think I've been pretty smart with my bidding, and thought I should at least get some screeners.

Is it too early to panic?

What markets did you bid? And yeah it's probably a bit early to panic, but it probably wouldn't hurt to send some targeted mailings to non-OCI firms in markets you have ties to.

Way ahead of you on this. Just got those out a couple days ago and haven't heard anything yet, but much more optimistic about those. Still alarmed by the EIW stuff so far. I bid NY, Stl, and the Indy/Ohio/KY ones. I have no ties to NY, and plenty to OH/KY.

[Anonymous User]

I am top third, secondary journal, and seeing an alarming lack of interviews (exactly 1, from my #1 bid, and I was an alternate) from EIW and the off campus NYC thing. Is anyone in my position seeing screeners? I was not expecting an easy ride to a firm job by any means, but I think I've been pretty smart with my bidding, and thought I should at least get some screeners.

Is it too early to panic?

What markets did you bid? And yeah it's probably a bit early to panic, but it probably wouldn't hurt to send some targeted mailings to non-OCI firms in markets you have ties to.

TITCR. I don't go to WUSTL (I go to a T20 and am from a midwest market, not chicago) and I've already done a CB and got an invite for a screener today. Firms are market paying, biglaw.

[Anonymous User]

Are those with alternate selections signing up for an interview time? It gives you the option, but I seem to remember people saying that was a glitch in last year's thread.

[Anonymous User]

Are those with alternate selections signing up for an interview time? It gives you the option, but I seem to remember people saying that was a glitch in last year's thread.

I did. I was told by a friend that it means you were an alternate, but they've since accepted you. If that's a glitch, I'm super bummed.

[Anonymous User]

Are those with alternate selections signing up for an interview time? It gives you the option, but I seem to remember people saying that was a glitch in last year's thread.

I did. I was told by a friend that it means you were an alternate, but they've since accepted you. If that's a glitch, I'm super bummed.

Can anyone else confirm this? I don't want to get my hopes up because I was able to schedule an interview with one of my first-choice firms where I was listed as an alternate.

Edit: And what do you mean by "but they've since accepted you"? Because I was able to sign up immediately - i.e. it said "Accept Alternate" and then I was immediately whisked away to the interview sign-up page. Unless you mean that they had some sort of preliminary list and then added the "alternates" to it prior to it showing up on symplicity.

[Anonymous User]

Are those with alternate selections signing up for an interview time? It gives you the option, but I seem to remember people saying that was a glitch in last year's thread.

I did. I was told by a friend that it means you were an alternate, but they've since accepted you. If that's a glitch, I'm super bummed.

Can anyone else confirm this? I don't want to get my hopes up because I was able to schedule an interview with one of my first-choice firms where I was listed as an alternate.

Edit: And what do you mean by "but they've since accepted you"? Because I was able to sign up immediately - i.e. it said "Accept Alternate" and then I was immediately whisked away to the interview sign-up page. Unless you mean that they had some sort of preliminary list and then added the "alternates" to it prior to it showing up on symplicity.

Same. There was no delay for me between it being posted to simplicity as an alternate and having access to the interview slots.