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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby 20160810 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:54 pm

loomstate wrote:OK to round a 3.99 up to a 4.0? I am specifically interested in the character and fitness section of the bar.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby loomstate » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:06 pm

serious question...

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:10 pm

Personally, I wouldn't. (But I'm responding mostly to post the story of seeing someone list their class rank as "top 4.5%." Really, dude? You couldn't bear to just put yourself in the top 5%? THAT was someone who needed to round.)

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:37 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:Personally, I wouldn't. (But I'm responding mostly to post the story of seeing someone list their class rank as "top 4.5%." Really, dude? You couldn't bear to just put yourself in the top 5%? THAT was someone who needed to round.)


and in an effort to make your post somewhat relevant to loomstate's, did this person have issues with the C & F of the bar?

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby loomstate » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:39 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:Personally, I wouldn't. (But I'm responding mostly to post the story of seeing someone list their class rank as "top 4.5%." Really, dude? You couldn't bear to just put yourself in the top 5%? THAT was someone who needed to round.)


Your personal anecdote isn't necessarily analogous - I want to write 4.0 in a statement mainly because 3.99 undermines my tone and rhythm. writing 4.5 instead of 5 is silly, i agree.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby cynthiad » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:43 pm

loomstate wrote:OK to round a 3.99 up to a 4.0? I am specifically interested in the character and fitness section of the bar.


No. Writing 4.0 generally means you never got less than an A, while 3.99 is almost perfect but not quite. You can't list a perfect GPA if you didn't get perfect grades.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Personally, I wouldn't. (But I'm responding mostly to post the story of seeing someone list their class rank as "top 4.5%." Really, dude? You couldn't bear to just put yourself in the top 5%? THAT was someone who needed to round.)


and in an effort to make your post somewhat relevant to loomstate's, did this person have issues with the C & F of the bar?

ha, sorry, it's not that relevant. And no, I don't think they had problems with c&f - this was someone submitting a paper to the LR, so they were a prof or something - probably admitted somewhere but I don't know.

also, no, it's not the same as putting 4.0 instead of 3.99. But I still wouldn't do the latter, for the reason above - 4.0 is a perfect GPA, straight As, and a 3.99 means you didn't get straight As. Plus unless you're writing poetry I don't understand how writing 3.99 instead of 4.0 interrupts the tone and rhythm.

(sorry, not supposed to be anon - A. Nony Mouse)

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby 071816 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:03 pm

How bout just putting your actual GPA on your resume and stop being a bitch about it?

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby loomstate » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:47 pm

chimp wrote:How bout just putting your actual GPA on your resume and stop being a bitch about it?


2 parts recalcitrance, 1 part jealously seems to produce one whole chimp - how bout you read before you comment? We aren't discussing resumes. arbitrarily calling someone a bitch on the internet = not cool.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby loomstate » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:55 pm

cynthiad wrote:
No. Writing 4.0 generally means you never got less than an A, while 3.99 is almost perfect but not quite. You can't list a perfect GPA if you didn't get perfect grades.


My school offers A+'s at 4.33 so no, you can get a "perfect" GPA with less than "perfect" grades.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby homestyle28 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:56 pm

loomstate wrote:
chimp wrote:How bout just putting your actual GPA on your resume and stop being a bitch about it?


2 parts recalcitrance, 1 part jealously seems to produce one whole chimp - how bout you read before you comment? We aren't discussing resumes. arbitrarily calling someone a bitch on the internet = not cool.


I'm with the monkey...at least with the just put your actual GPA and move on...and stop being a bitch.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:00 pm

But seriously - how on earth does putting 3.99 undermine the tone/rhythm of a piece of writing? If you want to put 4.0 because it kills you that 3.99 is so close and really it's just like a 4.0, I get that, but I don't understand the stated reason for wanting to put a 4.0.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby 20160810 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:26 pm

loomstate wrote:
chimp wrote:How bout just putting your actual GPA on your resume and stop being a bitch about it?


2 parts recalcitrance, 1 part jealously seems to produce one whole chimp - how bout you read before you comment? We aren't discussing resumes. arbitrarily calling someone a bitch on the internet = not cool.

Are you referring to your law school grades or your undergrad grades here?

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby 20160810 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:49 pm

loomstate wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Personally, I wouldn't. (But I'm responding mostly to post the story of seeing someone list their class rank as "top 4.5%." Really, dude? You couldn't bear to just put yourself in the top 5%? THAT was someone who needed to round.)


Your personal anecdote isn't necessarily analogous - I want to write 4.0 in a statement mainly because 3.99 undermines my tone and rhythm. writing 4.5 instead of 5 is silly, i agree.

The difference between jobs you can get (or law schools you can get into if you're talking about UG grades) with a 3.99 v. a 4.0 is completely negligible. But as you realize, you're risking a lot by potentially misrepresenting your GPA on your resume (character and fitness, etc.) So why in the world would you take that kind of risk for *NO GAIN WHATSOEVER*. For someone smart enough to get a 3.99, you’d think you’d be able to apply an iota of common sense and do a basic risk-reward analysis.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby cynthiad » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:00 pm

loomstate wrote:
cynthiad wrote:
No. Writing 4.0 generally means you never got less than an A, while 3.99 is almost perfect but not quite. You can't list a perfect GPA if you didn't get perfect grades.


My school offers A+'s at 4.33 so no, you can get a "perfect" GPA with less than "perfect" grades.


That's why I said "generally." But people still consider a 4.0 to be "perfect" even if it's technically possible at some schools to go higher. There's no way someone could make straight A's and get a 3.99.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby romothesavior » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:07 pm

SBL wrote:
loomstate wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Personally, I wouldn't. (But I'm responding mostly to post the story of seeing someone list their class rank as "top 4.5%." Really, dude? You couldn't bear to just put yourself in the top 5%? THAT was someone who needed to round.)


Your personal anecdote isn't necessarily analogous - I want to write 4.0 in a statement mainly because 3.99 undermines my tone and rhythm. writing 4.5 instead of 5 is silly, i agree.

The difference between jobs you can get (or law schools you can get into if you're talking about UG grades) with a 3.99 v. a 4.0 is completely negligible. But as you realize, you're risking a lot by potentially misrepresenting your GPA on your resume (character and fitness, etc.) So why in the world would you take that kind of risk for *NO GAIN WHATSOEVER*. For someone smart enough to get a 3.99, you’d think you’d be able to apply an iota of common sense and do a basic risk-reward analysis.

+1 to SBL, this is a dumb idea that gets you little benefit. Just put 3.99. The only place this might make a difference is like SCOTUS clerking or something. And even then probably not. Seems like the potential issues far outweigh the very minimal benefit. Just take your lumps bro, you're just a 3.99er.

And how does one even get a 3.99 in law school? Seems like even one grade less than an A would knock you down a bit more, no?

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby 20160810 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:22 pm

romothesavior wrote:
SBL wrote:
loomstate wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Personally, I wouldn't. (But I'm responding mostly to post the story of seeing someone list their class rank as "top 4.5%." Really, dude? You couldn't bear to just put yourself in the top 5%? THAT was someone who needed to round.)


Your personal anecdote isn't necessarily analogous - I want to write 4.0 in a statement mainly because 3.99 undermines my tone and rhythm. writing 4.5 instead of 5 is silly, i agree.

The difference between jobs you can get (or law schools you can get into if you're talking about UG grades) with a 3.99 v. a 4.0 is completely negligible. But as you realize, you're risking a lot by potentially misrepresenting your GPA on your resume (character and fitness, etc.) So why in the world would you take that kind of risk for *NO GAIN WHATSOEVER*. For someone smart enough to get a 3.99, you’d think you’d be able to apply an iota of common sense and do a basic risk-reward analysis.

+1 to SBL, this is a dumb idea that gets you little benefit. Just put 3.99. The only place this might make a difference is like SCOTUS clerking or something. And even then probably not. Seems like the potential issues far outweigh the very minimal benefit. Just take your lumps bro, you're just a 3.99er.

And how does one even get a 3.99 in law school? Seems like even one grade less than an A would knock you down a bit more, no?

I'm smelling 0L on this guy like old cheese.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby prezidentv8 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:26 pm

loomstate wrote:OK to round a 3.99 up to a 4.0? I am specifically interested in the character and fitness section of the bar.


Resume wrote:Litchfield School of Law, JD Class of 2014
GPA: 4
Bowling Club, Law Review Member


LOL

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby 20160810 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:43 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:
loomstate wrote:OK to round a 3.99 up to a 4.0? I am specifically interested in the character and fitness section of the bar.


Resume wrote:Litchfield School of Law, JD Class of 2014
GPA: 4
Bowling Club, Law Review Member


LOL

Wait a minute, is this real life?

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby prezidentv8 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:02 pm

SBL wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:
loomstate wrote:OK to round a 3.99 up to a 4.0? I am specifically interested in the character and fitness section of the bar.


Resume wrote:Litchfield School of Law, JD Class of 2014
GPA: 4
Bowling Club, Law Review Member


LOL

Wait a minute, is this real life?


Man, I wish.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:06 am

romothesavior wrote:
SBL wrote:
loomstate wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Personally, I wouldn't. (But I'm responding mostly to post the story of seeing someone list their class rank as "top 4.5%." Really, dude? You couldn't bear to just put yourself in the top 5%? THAT was someone who needed to round.)


Your personal anecdote isn't necessarily analogous - I want to write 4.0 in a statement mainly because 3.99 undermines my tone and rhythm. writing 4.5 instead of 5 is silly, i agree.

The difference between jobs you can get (or law schools you can get into if you're talking about UG grades) with a 3.99 v. a 4.0 is completely negligible. But as you realize, you're risking a lot by potentially misrepresenting your GPA on your resume (character and fitness, etc.) So why in the world would you take that kind of risk for *NO GAIN WHATSOEVER*. For someone smart enough to get a 3.99, you’d think you’d be able to apply an iota of common sense and do a basic risk-reward analysis.

+1 to SBL, this is a dumb idea that gets you little benefit. Just put 3.99. The only place this might make a difference is like SCOTUS clerking or something. And even then probably not. Seems like the potential issues far outweigh the very minimal benefit. Just take your lumps bro, you're just a 3.99er.

And how does one even get a 3.99 in law school? Seems like even one grade less than an A would knock you down a bit more, no?


I know a guy with a 3.97. Getting a few A+'s and A's, plus one or two A- will do.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby somewhatwayward » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:35 pm

What's Litchfield School of Law? I thought I had heard of every ABA-accredited law school, but I don't now that one. If it is a school that has a more well-known name (like if it is the law school at UConn or something), put that name. Otherwise people will throw it in the trash.

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby sambeber » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:38 pm

somewhatwayward wrote:What's Litchfield School of Law? I thought I had heard of every ABA-accredited law school, but I don't now that one. If it is a school that has a more well-known name (like if it is the law school at UConn or something), put that name. Otherwise people will throw it in the trash.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=litchfield+school+of+law

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby vanwinkle » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:46 pm

loomstate wrote:OK to round a 3.99 up to a 4.0? I am specifically interested in the character and fitness section of the bar.

GTFO, confirmed 0L.

If you want to know why, here's why.

Also:

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Re: GPA Rounding

Postby 20160810 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:59 pm

SBL wrote:I'm smelling 0L on this guy like old cheese.

QFT




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