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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:32 am

Anonymous User wrote:Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.


Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.


What bad stuff have you heard about bilzin?

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby koalatriste » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:58 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.


Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.


What bad stuff have you heard about bilzin?


have you done a CB there? S&C was like candyland in comparison.

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:13 pm

koalatriste wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.


Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.


What bad stuff have you heard about bilzin?


have you done a CB there? S&C was like candyland in comparison.


not sure what you mean - care to expand?

thanks

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:40 pm

koalatriste wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.


Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.


What bad stuff have you heard about bilzin?


have you done a CB there? S&C was like candyland in comparison.


S&C callbacks are candyland compared to those at most any other firm . . .

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:16 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
koalatriste wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.


Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.


What bad stuff have you heard about bilzin?


have you done a CB there? S&C was like candyland in comparison.


I'm convinced that the hiring partner at Bilzin uses the firm callbacks to gain insight on the hiring practices at other firms. It is highly invasive. The entire experience was rather adversarial compared to other Miami callbacks including top firms. It was not just "what do you like about our firm" but rather "what did you dislike about the others, specifically".

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:48 pm

T6 anon, here. I worked at another shop in town with a lot of Bilzin refugees; the recurring theme is that Bilzin uses its associates purely as a profit center, and burns them out when they're tired. I heard some horror stories about maternity leave, too.

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby SleekFire » Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:17 pm

T6 anon. Not sure if you are responding to these PM requests. But I'd love to hear more about your career in Miami....

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:50 pm

what do you want to know

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby SleekFire » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:59 pm

Where you have worked, your impressions of those firms, what you think of the Miami area in general...

Of course, if you are hesitant to share - I understand!

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:12 pm

I worked at one of the top miami firms; pros: the accessibility of the work, the fact sets (miami is ridiculous), the lifestyle, and it's home so that's a pro. i think the drawbacks are identical to its pros -- it's a small market, that's extremely insular, doing mid-market work. your options of lateraling out of miami are smaller, and the work you will do will rarely make the WSJ front cover.

That being said, if you can crack the market, and you're happy to stay down there, it's not a bad place to be.

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby duckmoney » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:26 pm

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know anything about non-Miami FL markets like Tampa, Orlando, and Jacksonville? Or are these places just not-very-elaborate flames?

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:33 pm

duckmoney wrote:Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know anything about non-Miami FL markets like Tampa, Orlando, and Jacksonville? Or are these places just not-very-elaborate flames?

They're secondary markets that are similar in many respects to what T6 anon just mentioned. Typically insular, mid-to-small-market type work, less lateral options. Each of the cities mentioned has a distinctive feel. Those are all small legal communities, but not so small that it's unbearable.

The not-very-elaborate flame aspect of these markets is likely that they like people from the area (i.e. Tampa firms prefer Tampa natives, as a general rule) and are suspicious of outsiders, especially those with little to no ties to the area.

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby DallasCowboy » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:35 pm

If you have ties and are from the T-14, I think they are a lot easier than Miami. Should be able to get plenty of mass-mail cbs. The big thing is letting them know you want to stay there with your fancy degree.

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:45 pm

Has anyone had any experience negotiating entry-level salary at any Miami firms? Is such a practice frowned upon?

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:37 am

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone had any experience negotiating entry-level salary at any Miami firms? Is such a practice frowned upon?


I believe this is frowned upon (almost) everywhere. And by frowned upon, I mean that firms will not entertain such a discussion/negotiation.

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:23 pm

did anyone accept in miami anywhere?

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:02 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone had any experience negotiating entry-level salary at any Miami firms? Is such a practice frowned upon?


I believe this is frowned upon (almost) everywhere. And by frowned upon, I mean that firms will not entertain such a discussion/negotiation.


Not true. Personal experience.

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:14 am

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Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone had any experience negotiating entry-level salary at any Miami firms? Is such a practice frowned upon?


I believe this is frowned upon (almost) everywhere. And by frowned upon, I mean that firms will not entertain such a discussion/negotiation.


Not true. Personal experience.


National firms would not be open to this. Regional firms may be more flexible.

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:12 pm

What's the scoop on Holland & Knight's Miami office? How big a player are they in Miami? How well managed is the firm? What's their general reputation, prestige, etc?

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Malcolm8X » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:30 pm

tag

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:00 pm

Das Bump

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:21 pm

I think this thread should be restarted for 2012. So, any experiences? I interviewed with Weil and was told that they are expecting to take an additional summer associate this year. Hopefully this is a trend that will show up across the board.

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby elterrible78 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:26 pm

Tagging this, because I'm very interested.

Based on everything I have read, Miami is a pretty small market, comparatively. Assuming I get into Harvard and graduate somewhere around the middle (a massive assumption, I realize, but indulge me), would my wife's family's living in the area (they are Brazilian, but her mom is an exec with JP Morgan in Miami), fluency in Spanish and Portuguese, and an MA in Latin American politics and economics be enough to crack it? Prior to marrying my wife, I had no ties to Florida at all, but we'd really like to settle down there, and I've been massively interested at doing some kind of work with/in Latin America for years, and have a CV that demonstrates at least that interest.

Thanks for anyone who can give some insight.

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby JusticeHarlan » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:29 pm

elterrible78 wrote:Tagging this, because I'm very interested.

Based on everything I have read, Miami is a pretty small market, comparatively. Assuming I get into Harvard and graduate somewhere around the middle (a massive assumption, I realize, but indulge me), would my wife's family's living in the area (they are Brazilian, but her mom is an exec with JP Morgan in Miami), fluency in Spanish and Portuguese, and an MA in Latin American politics and economics be enough to crack it? Prior to marrying my wife, I had no ties to Florida at all, but we'd really like to settle down there, and I've been massively interested at doing some kind of work with/in Latin America for years, and have a CV that demonstrates at least that interest.

Thanks for anyone who can give some insight.

This may help:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=189981

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Re: Miami biglaw

Postby elterrible78 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:30 pm

JusticeHarlan wrote:
elterrible78 wrote:Tagging this, because I'm very interested.

Based on everything I have read, Miami is a pretty small market, comparatively. Assuming I get into Harvard and graduate somewhere around the middle (a massive assumption, I realize, but indulge me), would my wife's family's living in the area (they are Brazilian, but her mom is an exec with JP Morgan in Miami), fluency in Spanish and Portuguese, and an MA in Latin American politics and economics be enough to crack it? Prior to marrying my wife, I had no ties to Florida at all, but we'd really like to settle down there, and I've been massively interested at doing some kind of work with/in Latin America for years, and have a CV that demonstrates at least that interest.

Thanks for anyone who can give some insight.

This may help:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=189981


Thanks very much.




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