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- DallasCowboy
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Re: Miami biglaw
Well its not really uniform in Miami. You got Bilzin at 125, Akerman/White&Case at 135, Greenberg at 135 or 145, McDermott at 145, Weil at 160
- vincanity1
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Re: Miami biglaw
DallasCowboy wrote:It honestly seems like more Miami firms do OCI/hiring at Columbia/NYU than at Duke/UVA. Also, if all you want is Miami biglaw, you might as well not go to law school because it's a crapshoot and all the firms will take at least one Miami 2L and maybe even a UF 2L. Then factor class sizes of 0-7 for the <10 "market"-paying firms and way more students in the T-14 with Miami ties and connections than you could imagine.
So in order to get into Miami biglaw I should not go to law school. Got it.
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Re: Miami biglaw
DallasCowboy wrote:Well its not really uniform in Miami. You got Bilzin at 125, Akerman/White&Case at 135, Greenberg at 135 or 145, McDermott at 145, Weil at 160
Can Bilzin be considered "big law"? It pays market but has only 1 office. It is also a relatively young firm.
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Re: Miami biglaw
vincanity1 wrote:DallasCowboy wrote:It honestly seems like more Miami firms do OCI/hiring at Columbia/NYU than at Duke/UVA. Also, if all you want is Miami biglaw, you might as well not go to law school because it's a crapshoot and all the firms will take at least one Miami 2L and maybe even a UF 2L. Then factor class sizes of 0-7 for the <10 "market"-paying firms and way more students in the T-14 with Miami ties and connections than you could imagine.
So in order to get into Miami biglaw I should not go to law school. Got it.
This isn't right. I am at a T6 and worked miami biglaw after 1L. Sure, I'm the exception and not the rule but it seemed like 2L hiring for natives was strong if you attended the right school. What's the right school? Is there a dramatic drop-off b/w T6 and T10 and T14? Good questions -- and I'm not sure. These subtle ambiguities aside, it seems like if your grades are around the median, and you attend one of those schools, and you're from the area, the presumption at most, but not at all (e.g. Gunster), is that you're wanted.
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Re: Miami biglaw
I've noticed that a lot of Miami firms either have tiered partnership structures (non-equity and equity partners), much longer partnership tracks (i.e., 9 to 10 years), or both.
Does anyone know why this appears to be much more common in Miami than, say, in NYC?
Does anyone know why this appears to be much more common in Miami than, say, in NYC?
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Re: Miami biglaw
Anonymous User wrote:vincanity1 wrote:DallasCowboy wrote:It honestly seems like more Miami firms do OCI/hiring at Columbia/NYU than at Duke/UVA. Also, if all you want is Miami biglaw, you might as well not go to law school because it's a crapshoot and all the firms will take at least one Miami 2L and maybe even a UF 2L. Then factor class sizes of 0-7 for the <10 "market"-paying firms and way more students in the T-14 with Miami ties and connections than you could imagine.
So in order to get into Miami biglaw I should not go to law school. Got it.
This isn't right. I am at a T6 and worked miami biglaw after 1L. Sure, I'm the exception and not the rule but it seemed like 2L hiring for natives was strong if you attended the right school. What's the right school? Is there a dramatic drop-off b/w T6 and T10 and T14? Good questions -- and I'm not sure. These subtle ambiguities aside, it seems like if your grades are around the median, and you attend one of those schools, and you're from the area, the presumption at most, but not at all (e.g. Gunster), is that you're wanted.
I'd love to know the firm if you wouldn't mind sharing
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vincanity1 wrote:Anonymous User wrote:vincanity1 wrote:DallasCowboy wrote:It honestly seems like more Miami firms do OCI/hiring at Columbia/NYU than at Duke/UVA. Also, if all you want is Miami biglaw, you might as well not go to law school because it's a crapshoot and all the firms will take at least one Miami 2L and maybe even a UF 2L. Then factor class sizes of 0-7 for the <10 "market"-paying firms and way more students in the T-14 with Miami ties and connections than you could imagine.
So in order to get into Miami biglaw I should not go to law school. Got it.
This isn't right. I am at a T6 and worked miami biglaw after 1L. Sure, I'm the exception and not the rule but it seemed like 2L hiring for natives was strong if you attended the right school. What's the right school? Is there a dramatic drop-off b/w T6 and T10 and T14? Good questions -- and I'm not sure. These subtle ambiguities aside, it seems like if your grades are around the median, and you attend one of those schools, and you're from the area, the presumption at most, but not at all (e.g. Gunster), is that you're wanted.
I'd love to know the firm if you wouldn't mind sharing
It doesn't matter where I worked -- they're all the same in miami
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Re: Miami biglaw
So all firms take 1L SAs?
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vincanity1 wrote:So all firms take 1L SAs?
No, I meant that the firm I worked at is no different than any other; it's not like NYC where there are discernable tiers.
Some take 1Ls, most don't. The ones that typically take 1Ls are Bilzin, Stearns Weaver, Greenberg, and sometimes Carlton Fields.
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Anonymous User wrote:does anyone know what to expect in terms of bonuses?
I'm also interested in this. Does anyone have any idea?
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Anonymous User wrote:vincanity1 wrote:So all firms take 1L SAs?
No, I meant that the firm I worked at is no different than any other; it's not like NYC where there are discernable tiers.
Some take 1Ls, most don't. The ones that typically take 1Ls are Bilzin, Stearns Weaver, Greenberg, and sometimes Carlton Fields.
This is exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you
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Re: Miami biglaw
DallasCowboy wrote:Well its not really uniform in Miami. You got Bilzin at 125, Akerman/White&Case at 135, Greenberg at 135 or 145, McDermott at 145, Weil at 160, Boies at 174
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Anonymous User wrote:DallasCowboy wrote:Well its not really uniform in Miami. You got Bilzin at 125, Akerman/White&Case at 135, Greenberg at 135 or 145, McDermott at 145, Weil at 160, Boies at 174
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But McDermott is a festering TTT, white and case and gtlaw sweatshops, and bilzin a hellhole. The ear names in town are rarely mentioned
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Re: Miami biglaw
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:DallasCowboy wrote:Well its not really uniform in Miami. You got Bilzin at 125, Akerman/White&Case at 135, Greenberg at 135 or 145, McDermott at 145, Weil at 160, Boies at 174
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But McDermott is a festering TTT, white and case and gtlaw sweatshops, and bilzin a hellhole. The ear names in town are rarely mentioned
"ear names" ??
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Re: Miami biglaw
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:DallasCowboy wrote:Well its not really uniform in Miami. You got Bilzin at 125, Akerman/White&Case at 135, Greenberg at 135 or 145, McDermott at 145, Weil at 160, Boies at 174
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But McDermott is a festering TTT, white and case and gtlaw sweatshops, and bilzin a hellhole. The ear names in town are rarely mentioned
Guess we've been warned.
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Re: Miami biglaw
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:DallasCowboy wrote:Well its not really uniform in Miami. You got Bilzin at 125, Akerman/White&Case at 135, Greenberg at 135 or 145, McDermott at 145, Weil at 160, Boies at 174
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But McDermott is a festering TTT, white and case and gtlaw sweatshops, and bilzin a hellhole. The ear names in town are rarely mentioned
Guess we've been warned.
Don't know about the rest, but there are legit fears about McDermott.
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Re: Miami biglaw
Anonymous User wrote:vincanity1 wrote:DallasCowboy wrote:It honestly seems like more Miami firms do OCI/hiring at Columbia/NYU than at Duke/UVA. Also, if all you want is Miami biglaw, you might as well not go to law school because it's a crapshoot and all the firms will take at least one Miami 2L and maybe even a UF 2L. Then factor class sizes of 0-7 for the <10 "market"-paying firms and way more students in the T-14 with Miami ties and connections than you could imagine.
So in order to get into Miami biglaw I should not go to law school. Got it.
This isn't right. I am at a T6 and worked miami biglaw after 1L. Sure, I'm the exception and not the rule but it seemed like 2L hiring for natives was strong if you attended the right school. What's the right school? Is there a dramatic drop-off b/w T6 and T10 and T14? Good questions -- and I'm not sure. These subtle ambiguities aside, it seems like if your grades are around the median, and you attend one of those schools, and you're from the area, the presumption at most, but not at all (e.g. Gunster), is that you're wanted.
right so T6 over duke/uva like I said
oops anon
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Re: Miami biglaw
Prior anon @ T6. McDermott is crap; Greenberg is a shithole sweatshop, as is W&C (where there is legitimately 0% of making partner). I've heard bad stuff about Bilzin.
Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.
Best bets in the city are probably Akerman, Stearns, Weil, Boies.
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Re: Miami biglaw
anyone have any experience with shook hardy miami?
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Re: Miami biglaw
kwais wrote:anyone have any experience with shook hardy miami?
tiny shop in miami -- no traction
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Anonymous User wrote:kwais wrote:anyone have any experience with shook hardy miami?
tiny shop in miami -- no traction
sorry, can you explain traction? thanks
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kwais wrote:anyone have any experience with shook hardy miami?
I heard that they just opened up in Miami to handle some tort cases that were being brought in FL under some litigation loophole. They are probably not sticking around.
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Anonymous User wrote:kwais wrote:anyone have any experience with shook hardy miami?
I heard that they just opened up in Miami to handle some tort cases that were being brought in FL under some litigation loophole. They are probably not sticking around.
Interesting. Thanks.
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T6 anon, please pm me too? T6 here hoping to do Miami biglaw 1L and have questions. thanks
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