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Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:23 pm
by Anonymous User
Makes sense. I spoke to 3Ls in late apirl and they told me that only 1/3 of the kids are employed.
If the school gave out the employment number of 30%, I have a feeling it might be slightly less than that. Law school career services tend to embellish data. The real rate is prob more like 25-30%.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:28 pm
by IrwinM.Fletcher
Anonymous User wrote:The CSO held a meeting with 3L's in mid-April and this is the figure that they gave out. Granted, it could have gone up a bit in a month, and that was the class that interviewed when the market was horrendous, but it's around there.
If true, holy crap. Is this possible?
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:34 pm
by Anonymous User
IrwinM.Fletcher wrote:Anonymous User wrote:The CSO held a meeting with 3L's in mid-April and this is the figure that they gave out. Granted, it could have gone up a bit in a month, and that was the class that interviewed when the market was horrendous, but it's around there.
If true, holy crap. Is this possible?
30% or so isn't even that bad of a number. Basically the only firms that will give you offers before you graduate are the ones paying market or close to market + fed clerkships + gov agencies.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:36 pm
by Notor
Anonymous User wrote:IrwinM.Fletcher wrote:Anonymous User wrote:The CSO held a meeting with 3L's in mid-April and this is the figure that they gave out. Granted, it could have gone up a bit in a month, and that was the class that interviewed when the market was horrendous, but it's around there.
If true, holy crap. Is this possible?
30% or so isn't even that bad of a number. Basically the only firms that will give you offers before you graduate are the ones paying market or close to market + fed clerkships + gov agencies.
Doesn't WUSTL have like 300+ a class too? That's like a hundred people or so with market jobs/clerkships, not too shabby. However, I think that 30% employed being "not too shabby" just shows why it's pretty stupid to go to law school at the moment.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:38 pm
by Oban
At least at wustl, if you are among the majority who strike out, you are in much less debt than most other peer schools. With my Low Debt + IBR, I can afford to take a lower paying/potential non law job if things didn't work out. At sticker the majority of kids will never realistically be able to pay off their loans without IBR + Frugality.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:21 pm
by Rock Chalk
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Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:50 pm
by beachbum
Anonymous User wrote:Il be honest, the only thing wustl has for itself is a high usnews rankings...... TTT city in a TTT part of the us with no sports teams or loyal alumni base.
Egregious anti-Cardinals trolling
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:55 pm
by KamaalTheAbstract
Rock Chalk wrote:Can someone start a separate "bitch about WUSTL" thread, maybe in the "Discuss Your Law School" forum? The presence of all this targeted negativity in a generally-themed thread gives the false impression that the general consensus is "I regret WUSTL," and that just isn't the case.
Obviously the lack of employment movement has led to some people venting their displeasure. I'm sure the thread will get back on track once someone has something to report.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:57 pm
by kaiser
beachbum wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Il be honest, the only thing wustl has for itself is a high usnews rankings...... TTT city in a TTT part of the us with no sports teams or loyal alumni base.
Egregious anti-Cardinals trolling
Was gonna point that out earlier. Cards are one of the most beloved teams in the league, 2nd most world series all time, and are in the playoffs. When I visited St. Louis one year during gameday, the town was really buzzing. Hard to say they have no sports team.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:04 pm
by romothesavior
KamaalTheAbstract wrote:Rock Chalk wrote:Can someone start a separate "bitch about WUSTL" thread, maybe in the "Discuss Your Law School" forum? The presence of all this targeted negativity in a generally-themed thread gives the false impression that the general consensus is "I regret WUSTL," and that just isn't the case.
Obviously the lack of employment movement has led to some people venting their displeasure. I'm sure the thread will get back on track once someone has something to report.
The WUSTL c/o 2013 has one of the largest contingents on TLS, which probably leads to a greater amount of discussion and lamenting about jobs. Things here objectively suck and I am way more down on the school now than I was when I got here, but things here are no worse (and are probably better) than a lot of our Midwestern T25 peers. And I've said this before, but I know a LOT of people who read and post ITT who have offers who haven't even mentioned them.
Things are not going all that well for most of our class, but this thread is still getting a very slanted view.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:04 pm
by Oban
We also have the Blues, who despite missing the playoffs recently, and Not having a cup, actually have one of the best franchise records in hockey, easily the best of any expansion era team, save for maybe the flyers.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:06 pm
by kaiser
Oban wrote:We also have the Blues, who despite missing the playoffs recently, and Not having a cup, actually have one of the best franchise records in hockey, easily the best of any expansion era team, save for maybe the flyers.
If I remember correctly, they had the longest streak of consecutive playoff appearances in sports history. They may have stunk the past few years, but I see them on the upswing.
EDIT: Ok, not the longest in sports, but still very long. 25 years straight (hot damn) to be precise
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:07 pm
by romothesavior
kaiser wrote:beachbum wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Il be honest, the only thing wustl has for itself is a high usnews rankings...... TTT city in a TTT part of the us with no sports teams or loyal alumni base.
Egregious anti-Cardinals trolling
Was gonna point that out earlier. Cards are one of the most beloved teams in the league, 2nd most world series all time, and are in the playoffs. When I visited St. Louis one year during gameday, the town was really buzzing. Hard to say they have no sports team.
Maybe he was referring to the school having no sports teams or loyal alumni base.
That said, I am pretty sure I know who this anon user is, and he is super down on the Midwest (Midwaste?) constantly, so take it with a grain of salt. Almost everyone I know IRL who has come to WUSTL has enjoyed their first year and a half in STL. And most people from the Midwest generally like the Midwest a lot. Besides the shitty job market in STL and the Midwest generally, I have nothing negative to say about this "TTT part of the U.S."
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:08 pm
by Anonymous User
What does the WUSTL admin. say in response to their placement?
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:58 pm
by Anonymous User
Honestly St. Louis is kind of a TTT city, but it isn't that bad. It's honestly a good place to go to school, enough going on not to go crazy. However I would not want to live her forever. That said, why come to a school that predominantly feeds the "midwaste" if you don't want to end up here.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:41 pm
by Anonymous User
I'm one of the anon bitching about wustl. Again, I want to apologize. I think i went too far with a couple of my statements. I've just been really frustrated lately and now I am starting to lose hope. I will tone it down in the future.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:51 pm
by Anonymous User
Did anyone ever hear anything from Greenebaum? Any rejection letters? Radio silence here.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:52 pm
by Anonymous User
FWIW, I haven't heard anyone mention an offer or rejection from Greenebaum.
Dinsmore, anyone?
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:01 pm
by Anonymous User
Bodman offer today. 2 1/2 weeks after CB.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:25 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote: Illinois - Anyone hear from Berger Schatz or Hodges, Loizzi?
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:20 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote: Illinois - Anyone hear from Berger Schatz or Hodges, Loizzi?
Illinois here. Haven't yet heard from HL or BS.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:36 pm
by Anonymous User
UIUC - Anyone hear from:
Mahoney Silverman
or
Allstate Insurance?
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:07 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Honestly St. Louis is kind of a TTT city, but it isn't that bad. It's honestly a good place to go to school, enough going on not to go crazy. However I would not want to live her forever. That said, why come to a school that predominantly feeds the "midwaste" if you don't want to end up here.
One of the anti-wustlers
The school doesn't feed well into the midwest. That was one of the major points I wanted to make. I am actually from the midwest and want to stay in the midwest. Check the amount of alumni in Ohio, Indiana, Michigan at midlaw/biglaw firms. There are almost no WUSTL alumni in those states. If you compare WUSTL in those states vs ND or UIUC the results are shocking....
When you have associates in the midwest asking me questions about my school and saying they never heard of it... you have a problem. I know this is an anectdote, but I think it shows that WUSTL has a huge problem placing people in the midwest.
I'd like to hear what other people think.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:47 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Honestly St. Louis is kind of a TTT city, but it isn't that bad. It's honestly a good place to go to school, enough going on not to go crazy. However I would not want to live her forever. That said, why come to a school that predominantly feeds the "midwaste" if you don't want to end up here.
I'd like to hear what other people think.
I would too, just in the WUSTL thread. Please guys, can we leave this thread to offer/rejection/callback updates? Much appreciated.
Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:53 am
by YourCaptain
Do we have %-estimates for NLJ250 as of this time for the Midwest T25s (include OSU I guess)