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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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I may have had to clean myself up after our riveting discussion about the practice of law.

Someone elaborate on this for those of us not yet familiar with Mr. Caruso.

Bump for this. I have an interview with Taft and I'm interested in the reaction to Mr. Caruso. Somebody provide some anon feedback?


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Anyone heard from Jenner or Sidley?


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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I may have had to clean myself up after our riveting discussion about the practice of law.

Someone elaborate on this for those of us not yet familiar with Mr. Caruso.

Bump for this. I have an interview with Taft and I'm interested in the reaction to Mr. Caruso. Somebody provide some anon feedback?


Ralph A. Caruso descended from the heavens in 4 B.C. Quickly, Mr. Caruso became well-known for his enthusiastic monologues regarding the practice of law. During the past 2,000 plus years, Mr. Caruso has been known for a variety of discoveries, including single-handedly founding the practice of gaming law. Moreover, Mr. Caruso is well-known for his talents outside of the practice of law. Rumors have it that he demolished the competition in American Idol last year by employing only sign language.

Because of his close relationship with Steve Jobs, Mr. Caruso is sponsoring a campaign to get iPads for everyone, including for children with no hands. Mr. Caruso feels that iPads are essential to both the practice of law and day-to-day life. Indeed, during interviews with law students, Mr. Caruso cannot survive without playing games on his iPad while still maintaining his always abundant enthusiasm.


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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I may have had to clean myself up after our riveting discussion about the practice of law.

Someone elaborate on this for those of us not yet familiar with Mr. Caruso.

Bump for this. I have an interview with Taft and I'm interested in the reaction to Mr. Caruso. Somebody provide some anon feedback?


Ralph A. Caruso descended from the heavens in 4 B.C. Quickly, Mr. Caruso became well-known for his enthusiastic monologues regarding the practice of law. During the past 2,000 plus years, Mr. Caruso has been known for a variety of discoveries, including single-handedly founding the practice of gaming law. Moreover, Mr. Caruso is well-known for his talents outside of the practice of law. Rumors have it that he demolished the competition in American Idol last year by employing only sign language.

Because of his close relationship with Steve Jobs, Mr. Caruso is sponsoring a campaign to get iPads for everyone, including for children with no hands. Mr. Caruso feels that iPads are essential to both the practice of law and day-to-day life. Indeed, during interviews with law students, Mr. Caruso cannot survive without playing games on his iPad while still maintaining his always abundant enthusiasm.


Ralph Caruso went to the Virgin Islands... now they're just called the Islands


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Anyone heard from Jenner or Sidley?


Bumppp


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Because of his close relationship with Steve Jobs, Mr. Caruso is sponsoring a campaign to get iPads for everyone, including for children with no hands.


That was exceptionally well done.


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Anyone heard from Jenner or Sidley?


Bumppp


I know one of the interviewers at ND has made calls for Jenner. Not sure how many though.


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Dinged by Latham via snail mail. UIUC top 5%/LR. Fuck this is brutal


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Top 5%, OCI last week. Still not a single callback.


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Top 5%, OCI last week. Still not a single callback.

Where were the interviews? Have you had any dings? I think CBs could be a while still, depending on the market.


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Top 5%, OCI last week. Still not a single callback.

Where were the interviews? Have you had any dings? I think CBs could be a while still, depending on the market.


I prefer not to disclose my school. 30 some interviews, 7 soft dings 2 ding e-mails. Concerning the question above, one soft ding is from Sidley.


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Has anyone heard from Polsinelli?


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Top 5%, OCI last week. Still not a single callback.

Where were the interviews? Have you had any dings? I think CBs could be a while still, depending on the market.


I prefer not to disclose my school. 30 some interviews, 7 soft dings 2 ding e-mails. Concerning the question above, one soft ding is from Sidley.

What's a soft ding


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Has anyone heard from Polsinelli?

Unless your last name is Polsinelli or Shughart, I don't think you should count on this one. They're hiring a whopping 2-3 people, and they interviewed half the school, and I think every person I talked to said they loved their Polsinelli interviewer (the ladies were both really nice, no doubt).

In any case, I don't think anyone has heard, and I imagine most non v100 firms will be a few days or even weeks before they make CBs.


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Anybody hear anything from Stinson Morrison or Husch Blackwell in STL?


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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I have ok but not incredible WE and undergrad, not IP or URM.  

If I had to guess why I'm doing well, I'd say it's because I don't buy into the whole TLS idea that grades/urm/undergrad prestige are the end all be all of law firm hiring.  Those things may get you in the door of an interview room, but they will not get you a callback.  In my experience, success in this process requires the ability to show that you're charming, articulate and interesting in 20 minutes without making it look like work.  The people conducting interviews generally seem more willing to take a chance on someone they would like to work with rather than a kid who just happens to be good at law school exams.  

I guess the short answer is that I'm a good interviewer and I don't let the fact that others have better grades than I do affect my performance in this process

Were these all NYC screeners, or is that cumulative (NYC + DC + OCI + mailings)? If just NYC off-campus, then I (and a lot of others) are having trouble understanding how this happened. A top 20%, non-IP, non-URM at WUSTL with 14 NYC screeners and 7 CBs is an incredible anomaly. Obviously things like grades/URM/WE/undergrad are not the be all and end all of law firm hiring, but as you said yourself, they get you in the door of the interview room. Most people with top 20% grades got like 2-4 NYC screeners (or worse), and even people with tippy-top of the class grades often got like 12-14 NYC off-campus interviews. So what gives?

I'm certainly not trying to take away from anything you did, it is mighty impressive. I'm just trying to figure out what you're doing right and I (and everyone else) are doing wrong, and the answer isn't "interview better." Do you know what the secret to your success is? Now that you have an offer, throw a bone to your poor classmates. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Anybody hear anything from Stinson Morrison or Husch Blackwell in STL?


Interviewed with Stinson, haven't heard anything.

Soft ding = other people have gotten callbacks, but you haven't.

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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Anybody hear anything from Stinson Morrison or Husch Blackwell in STL?


Interviewed with Stinson, haven't heard anything.

Soft ding = other people have gotten callbacks, but you haven't.

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Ugh. Those suck. Might mean the hard ding's in the mail. Some firms seem surprisingly slow to catch on to the fact that they can just send a friggin' email and put us out of our misery. I don't care about the lovely embossing on your stationery. *coughPaulWeissandCovingtoncough*


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Has anyone heard from Polsinelli?

Unless your last name is Polsinelli or Shughart, I don't think you should count on this one. They're hiring a whopping 2-3 people, and they interviewed half the school, and I think every person I talked to said they loved their Polsinelli interviewer (the ladies were both really nice, no doubt).

In any case, I don't think anyone has heard, and I imagine most non v100 firms will be a few days or even weeks before they make CBs.


I interviewed with Posineli and sever other firms who are going to be hiring 1-4 people, but for some reason they feel like interviewing everyone and their mother. It's like they want to rub it in our faces that it's a buyers market and they can nab candidates who wouldn't have pissed on them if they were on fire pre ITE.


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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...but for some reason they feel like interviewing everyone and their mother. It's like they want to rub it in our faces that it's a buyers market and they can nab candidates who wouldn't have pissed on them if they were on fire pre ITE.


I can't tell you how many times I've thought this.


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Has anyone heard from Polsinelli?

Unless your last name is Polsinelli or Shughart, I don't think you should count on this one. They're hiring a whopping 2-3 people, and they interviewed half the school, and I think every person I talked to said they loved their Polsinelli interviewer (the ladies were both really nice, no doubt).

In any case, I don't think anyone has heard, and I imagine most non v100 firms will be a few days or even weeks before they make CBs.


I interviewed with Posineli and sever other firms who are going to be hiring 1-4 people, but for some reason they feel like interviewing everyone and their mother. It's like they want to rub it in our faces that it's a buyers market and they can nab candidates who wouldn't have pissed on them if they were on fire pre ITE.


i got a callback from Polsinelli. they got back to me in about five days after my screener. The people at the firm seem really cool; i'm hopeful for an offer.


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Anyone from UIUC heard back from Ice Miller, Greensfelder, or Heyl Royster?


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Anyone from UIUC heard back from Ice Miller, Greensfelder, or Heyl Royster?

I hope not. I interviewed with all three of those firms today at WUSTL. Dings for all of you at UIUC! :P


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 Post subject: Re: Midwest T25s OCI discussion/results
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Someone elaborate on this for those of us not yet familiar with Mr. Caruso.

Bump for this. I have an interview with Taft and I'm interested in the reaction to Mr. Caruso. Somebody provide some anon feedback?


Ralph A. Caruso descended from the heavens in 4 B.C. Quickly, Mr. Caruso became well-known for his enthusiastic monologues regarding the practice of law. During the past 2,000 plus years, Mr. Caruso has been known for a variety of discoveries, including single-handedly founding the practice of gaming law. Moreover, Mr. Caruso is well-known for his talents outside of the practice of law. Rumors have it that he demolished the competition in American Idol last year by employing only sign language.

Because of his close relationship with Steve Jobs, Mr. Caruso is sponsoring a campaign to get iPads for everyone, including for children with no hands. Mr. Caruso feels that iPads are essential to both the practice of law and day-to-day life. Indeed, during interviews with law students, Mr. Caruso cannot survive without playing games on his iPad while still maintaining his always abundant enthusiasm.


Ralph Caruso went to the Virgin Islands... now they're just called the Islands
Screener with Caruso tomorrow. You guys have my heart all aflutter at the prospect.


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