Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Rising 3L here. My advice to all HLSers applying to NYC firms is to bid more aggressively than people have been writing here. If you're around median, you can definitely get V5. Apply to all of the NYC firms except maybe Wachtell. DPW, Cleary, S&C, STB, Deb. etc, have massive classes that they fill with tons of HLS students and can be less selective than you might think.
The only caveat is that it's a total crapshoot as to which firms people get offers and callbacks from. I was rejected from many of my 'safeties' and offered at many of my 'reaches'. My friends reported the same.
So be aggressive but cast a wide net. I'd say median students should interview with about 10 selective firms, 10 midmarket biglaw firms (e.g., Fried Frank, Proskauer, Willkie) and 5 less selective firms (e.g., Mintz Levin).
2010 EIP statistics show that most V5-V10 firms gave out about 50-70 offers. I assume those offers mainly went to the same people, too, so I think your advice is generally too optimistic.
this post makes me assume you are a douchebag....
I've talked to a number of the market recruiters and they all seem to be a lot more optimistic about Harvard student's chances than the people on here, especially in relation to grades. There is an overriding idea on this site that OCI (or in our case EIP) is the same as law school admissions, meaning it's all about grades. While this probably gets truer as you go lower in the school rankings, I don't think it's as true at HYS. These firms understand that there are a lot of factors beyond whether you got an H in torts that determine whether or not you could be a good lawyer. Yes, someone with 10H's will almost certainly get more and better offers than someone with straight P's, but from what I've learned outside of TLS, most law firms aren't making fine grain distinctions between someone with 6H's and someone with 3.
I know I can think of a number of examples of people with average grades who in my opinion will make better lawyers (and employees in general) than some of those who made law review. I'm pretty sure the law firms understand this as well.