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Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:30 pm

Does anyone have any advice on how this works?

I'm utterly nervous I'm going to get no interviews because I'll have ranked too many low interest firms high and high interest firms low. Is that going to happen? I don't even know which ones are high interest. I would post my list buy I don't know how to copy and paste it without taking the whole page.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm utterly nervous I'm going to get no interviews because I'll have ranked too many low interest firms high and high interest firms low. Is that going to happen?


Yest, that is going to happen. You will not receive any interviews.
Anonymous User wrote:I don't even know which ones are high interest. I would post my list buy I don't know how to copy and paste it without taking the whole page.
Wow, sounds like you have a lot of problems. If only there were any way for you to solve them :/

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:32 pm

thesealocust wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I'm utterly nervous I'm going to get no interviews because I'll have ranked too many low interest firms high and high interest firms low. Is that going to happen?


Yest, that is going to happen. You will not receive any interviews.
Anonymous User wrote:I don't even know which ones are high interest. I would post my list buy I don't know how to copy and paste it without taking the whole page.
Wow, sounds like you have a lot of problems.
Oh wow. Do you think I should drop out?

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:34 pm

No, I don't think you should drop out. Even without interviews or a job, law school is an intellectually exhilarating place to be. You'll continue to meet amazing people, grow as a person and a thinker, and discover new things about the world.

Plus, debt is really just a social construct anyway. What really IS money? I don't know either. Not worth making decisions off of a database entry on some bean counter's ledger.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:36 pm

I know. I just figure maybe with more WE, I'll do better next time. So maybe I should drop out, work for another year, and then come back.
Even better, keep coming back and dropping out until I get a job out of OCI

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I know. I just figure maybe with more WE, I'll do better next time. So maybe I should drop out, work for another year, and then come back.
Even better, keep coming back and dropping out until I get a job out of OCI
Two-stage plan: You do that, and I'll write an existential play ABOUT that for you to perform in. It'll have so many layers of meta.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:39 pm

thesealocust wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I know. I just figure maybe with more WE, I'll do better next time. So maybe I should drop out, work for another year, and then come back.
Even better, keep coming back and dropping out until I get a job out of OCI
Two-stage plan: You do that, and I'll write an existential play ABOUT that for you to perform in. It'll have so many layers of meta.
Can it be based on "Suits"? I think I have a lot in common with that guy.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I know. I just figure maybe with more WE, I'll do better next time. So maybe I should drop out, work for another year, and then come back.
Even better, keep coming back and dropping out until I get a job out of OCI
Two-stage plan: You do that, and I'll write an existential play ABOUT that for you to perform in. It'll have so many layers of meta.
Can it be based on "Suits"? I think I have a lot in common with that guy.
Sure. It'll be part Suits, part No Exit, part Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead, part law school OCI. Who do you want your sidekick to be?

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:42 pm

thesealocust wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I know. I just figure maybe with more WE, I'll do better next time. So maybe I should drop out, work for another year, and then come back.
Even better, keep coming back and dropping out until I get a job out of OCI
Two-stage plan: You do that, and I'll write an existential play ABOUT that for you to perform in. It'll have so many layers of meta.
Can it be based on "Suits"? I think I have a lot in common with that guy.
Sure. It'll be part Suits, part No Exit, part Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead, part law school OCI. Who do you want your sidekick to be?
Holly

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:45 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Image


Holly
So it is written and so it shall be.
TLS wrote:You may embed only 4 quotes within each other.
I think I'll be the judge of that.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:47 pm

thesealocust wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Image


Holly
So it is written and so it shall be.
TLS wrote:You may embed only 4 quotes within each other.
I think I'll be the judge of that.
Nice. I was wondering how you did that. But I see now that I quoted you.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Image


Holly
So it is written and so it shall be.
TLS wrote:You may embed only 4 quotes within each other.
I think I'll be the judge of that.
Nice. I was wondering how you did that. But I see now that I quoted you.
Exactly: Magic.

Anyway, what were you asking about bidding again?

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:58 pm

thesealocust wrote:
Anyway, what were you asking about bidding again?

OK here is my list. Want chicago or NY. Want Tax most. Grades/school are not an issue. interviewing is. preparation for bidding is. But hey, you win some you lose some.

I'm not really a gunner, so I'm more interested in a Sidley or a ropes than a kirkland or a skadden.

sidley austin llp (Chicago, Il)
Winston & Strawn Llp
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton Llp Ny
Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson Llp Ny
Ropes & Gray Llp (Chicago, Il)
Mcdermott Will & Emery Llp (Chicago, Il)
Jones Day (Chicago, Il)
Willkie Farr & Gallagher Llp (New York, Ny)
Simpson Thacher & bartlett llp New York
katten muchin rosenman llp (Chicago, Il)
Kirkland & Ellis Llp (Chicago, Il)
Sullivan & Cromwell Llp (New York, Ny)
Davis Polk & Wardwell (New York, Ny)
Paul Hastings Janofsky & Walker Llp (Chicago, Il)
schiff hardin llp Chicago
Baker & Mckenzie Llp (Chicago, Il) 20
Weil Gotshal & Manges Llp (New York, Ny)
Cravath Swaine & Moore Llp (New York, Ny)
Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom Llp (Chicago, Il)
Jenner & Block Llp (Chicago, Il)
Latham & Watkins Llp (Chicago, Il)
Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom Llp (New York, Ny)
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Jones Day (New York, Ny)
Ropes & Gray Llp New York
sidley austin llp (New York, Ny)
Neal Gerber & Eisenberg Llp (Chicago, Il)
dla piper Llp (Chicago, Il)
goldberg kohn Bell Black Rosenbloom & Moritz Ltd (Chicago, Il)
mcguirewoods Llp (Chicago, Il)
Wildman Harrold Allen & Dixon Llp (Chicago, Il)
Snr Denton (Chicago, Il)
Vedder Price Kaufman & Kammholz Pc (Chicago, Il)
Drinker Biddle & Reath Llp Chicago
proskauer rose llp (Chicago, Il)
Perkins Coie Llp (Chicago, Il)
Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Preston Gates Ellis Llp (Chicago, Il)
Baker & Mckenzie Llp New York
Latham & Watkins Llp (New York, Ny)
Dewey & Leboeuf Llp (New York, Ny)
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Bryan Cave Llp (Chicago, Il) 20
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Barack Ferrazzano Kirschbaum & Nagelberg Llp (Chicago, Il
Holland & Knight Llp Chicago, Ny
Internal Revenue Service Office of Chief Counsel (Washington, Dc)
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Reed Smith LLP Chicago
Greenberg Traurig Llp (Chicago, Il)
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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by smokyroom26 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:59 pm

This thread delivered.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
Anyway, what were you asking about bidding again?

OK here is my list. Want chicago or NY. Want Tax most. Grades/school are not an issue. interviewing is. preparation for bidding is. But hey, you win some you lose some.

I'm not really a gunner, so I'm more interested in a Sidley or a ropes than a kirkland or a skadden.
Sounds well thought out and like you did your research! A+ would bidlist again.

Ordering is impossible to say with precision, but you'll get plenty, especially if 'grades/school are not an issue.'
smokyroom26 wrote:This thread delivered.
I also do birthdays and weddings.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:01 pm

thesealocust wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
Anyway, what were you asking about bidding again?

OK here is my list. Want chicago or NY. Want Tax most. Grades/school are not an issue. interviewing is. preparation for bidding is. But hey, you win some you lose some.

I'm not really a gunner, so I'm more interested in a Sidley or a ropes than a kirkland or a skadden.
Sounds well thought out and like you did your research! A+ would bidlist again.

Ordering is impossible to say with precision, but you'll get plenty, especially if 'grades/school are not an issue.'
smokyroom26 wrote:This thread delivered.
I also do birthdays and weddings.
I can't tell if you're making fun

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
Anyway, what were you asking about bidding again?

OK here is my list. Want chicago or NY. Want Tax most. Grades/school are not an issue. interviewing is. preparation for bidding is. But hey, you win some you lose some.

I'm not really a gunner, so I'm more interested in a Sidley or a ropes than a kirkland or a skadden.
Sounds well thought out and like you did your research! A+ would bidlist again.

Ordering is impossible to say with precision, but you'll get plenty, especially if 'grades/school are not an issue.'
smokyroom26 wrote:This thread delivered.
I also do birthdays and weddings.
I can't tell if you're making fun
I'm not. Your list makes sense based on what you've said. No sarcasm. (I realize I'm sort of the boy who cried wolf on this front, but seriously, it looks good. I wouldn't carry the sarcasm to potentially harmful advice on a bidlist).

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:06 pm

thesealocust wrote:
I'm not. Your list makes sense based on what you've said. No sarcasm. (I realize I'm sort of the boy who cried wolf on this front, but seriously, it looks good. I wouldn't carry the sarcasm to potentially harmful advice on a bidlist).
Thanks.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
I'm not. Your list makes sense based on what you've said. No sarcasm. (I realize I'm sort of the boy who cried wolf on this front, but seriously, it looks good. I wouldn't carry the sarcasm to potentially harmful advice on a bidlist).
Thanks.
No hay de que.

So now that we have the messy stuff out of the way, how is life generally? Family doing alright, feeling like you fit in at law school, excited about OCI? I know this can be a stressful time, I like to think I mean more to you, anonymous user, than just some kind of employment advice slot machine.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:17 pm

thesealocust wrote:
Plus, debt is really just a social construct anyway. What really IS money? I don't know either. Not worth making decisions off of a database entry on some bean counter's ledger.
This was seriously hilarious.
thesealocust wrote:
So now that we have the messy stuff out of the way, how is life generally? Family doing alright, feeling like you fit in at law school, excited about OCI? I know this can be a stressful time, I like to think I mean more to you, anonymous user, than just some kind of employment advice slot machine.
Sure law school is fine. As long as I don't need to answer questions about:
Why I want to work for your firm? My buddy who's a lawyer told me to work for you, and I looked up your salary and it's the right one.
Why do you want to be a lawyer? What the blazes else do you do with a law degree and a brinks truck of debt.
Why do you want to do tax? I got a good grade in it.
Do you have any questions about our firm? Do you do direct deposit; because it doesn't sound like I'll have time to go to the bank.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Grizz » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote: Do you have any questions about our firm? Do you do direct deposit; because it doesn't sound like I'll have time to go to the bank.
You might need to get ones from the bank to make models and bottles more effective.

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
Plus, debt is really just a social construct anyway. What really IS money? I don't know either. Not worth making decisions off of a database entry on some bean counter's ledger.
This was seriously hilarious.
thesealocust wrote:
So now that we have the messy stuff out of the way, how is life generally? Family doing alright, feeling like you fit in at law school, excited about OCI? I know this can be a stressful time, I like to think I mean more to you, anonymous user, than just some kind of employment advice slot machine.
Sure law school is fine. As long as I don't need to answer questions about:
Why I want to work for your firm? My buddy who's a lawyer told me to work for you, and I looked up your salary and it's the right one.
Why do you want to be a lawyer? What the blazes else do you do with a law degree and a brinks truck of debt.
Why do you want to do tax? I got a good grade in it.
Do you have any questions about our firm? Do you do direct deposit; because it doesn't sound like I'll have time to go to the bank.
I'm trying to get you to open up man. Don't talk to me about firms, talk to me about what makes you tic.

Have you been getting enough sleep? Eating well, getting out some? Do you feel like your support network is there for you?

We spend so much time talking between faceless computer monitors, I want to be more than just an interview advice provider.

What do you really want out of life - and will law school really help you get there? There's a lot out there, are these years worth it? What else could you be doing?

Are you happy?

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:25 pm

thesealocust wrote: I'm trying to get you to open up man. Don't talk to me about firms, talk to me about what makes you tic.

Have you been getting enough sleep? Eating well, getting out some? Do you feel like your support network is there for you?

We spend so much time talking between faceless computer monitors, I want to be more than just an interview advice provider.

What do you really want out of life - and will law school really help you get there? There's a lot out there, are these years worth it? What else could you be doing?

Are you happy?
Happy? Hell no.
Enough sleep? No, I am under a lot of stress from something else.
Support network? Excellent.
What do I want out of life? To get through it, without worrying about making a living, doing something I tolerably enjoy.
Will law school get me there? Better than anything else I can think of. I am decently good at it, and decently enjoy it.
What else could I be doing? 10 years ago, I could have been an engineer, or a doctor. At 28 with no marketable undergrad, law school. Still, I probably would have chosen law anyway. I like it, I'm drawn to it. I just wish there was a way to do it without the stress.

Thanks, that felt good. You wanna try?

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Re: Bid preferencing

Post by thesealocust » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Happy? Hell no.
Enough sleep? No, I am under a lot of stress from something else.
Support network? Excellent.
What do I want out of life? To get through it, without worrying about making a living, doing something I tolerably enjoy.
Will law school get me there? Better than anything else I can think of. I am decently good at it, and decently enjoy it.
What else could I be doing? 10 years ago, I could have been an engineer, or a doctor. At 28 with no marketable undergrad, law school. Still, I probably would have chosen law anyway. I like it, I'm drawn to it. I just wish there was a way to do it without the stress.

Thanks, that felt good. You wanna try?
I'm sorry to hear you're not happy. There's a time and a place though, and maybe now the stress is worthwhile. And as somebody who has been through it, I promise you this: The stress will only go down from here; the wave has broken. You'll likely crawl the walls once or twice more during the actually recruiting process, but soon you'll be in a world where the gnawing sense of inadequacy is at least somewhat corralled.

And from there, the world is your oyster. You are free. If you realize the stress and bullshit of the law isn't worth it, you can drop out and start anew anywhere else. But it sounds like you see a lot of potential in yourself and in the legal sector, so after reflection you'll probably want to stick it out and get something out of it. But it's key to know that you're in control - you chose this path, and if it's not satisfying to you, you can change it.

Next year I hope you find a way to be more happy. That's different for everyone so I won't try to preach - maybe you need meditation and serenity or maybe you need a hobby or club or adventure to really dive into and take up your efforts. There are so many options, but I really hope you chase what makes your heart glad. There's just not enough time to put up with BS unless it's getting you to somewhere that you want to be.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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