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Big Law: Getting a job
After reading about so many people not being able to find a coveted Big Law job, I was wondering how difficult the process really is.
I mean coming from CCN around the median, how difficult is it to actually get a Big Law job. I imagine there are several jobs out there since there are so many big law firms.
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I mean coming from CCN around the median, how difficult is it to actually get a Big Law job. I imagine there are several jobs out there since there are so many big law firms.
Thanks
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Indeed, there ARE several jobs out there.JSC4 wrote:After reading about so many people not being able to find a coveted Big Law job, I was wondering how difficult the process really is.
I mean coming from CCN around the median, how difficult is it to actually get a Big Law job. I imagine there are several jobs out there since there are so many big law firms.
Thanks
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Median at CCN should be fine.JSC4 wrote:After reading about so many people not being able to find a coveted Big Law job, I was wondering how difficult the process really is.
I mean coming from CCN around the median, how difficult is it to actually get a Big Law job. I imagine there are several jobs out there since there are so many big law firms.
Thanks
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Rising 3L at N-pasteurizedmilk wrote:Median at CCN should be fine.JSC4 wrote:After reading about so many people not being able to find a coveted Big Law job, I was wondering how difficult the process really is.
I mean coming from CCN around the median, how difficult is it to actually get a Big Law job. I imagine there are several jobs out there since there are so many big law firms.
Thanks
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WTF, OP? Is this thread serious? Search function?
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You're saying many friends near median struck out doing EIW?Anonymous User wrote:Rising 3L at N-pasteurizedmilk wrote:Median at CCN should be fine.JSC4 wrote:After reading about so many people not being able to find a coveted Big Law job, I was wondering how difficult the process really is.
I mean coming from CCN around the median, how difficult is it to actually get a Big Law job. I imagine there are several jobs out there since there are so many big law firms.
Thanks
Public interest focused so didn't do EIW but many friends in the middle third struck out last year.
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Yes.thecilent wrote:You're saying many friends near median struck out doing EIW?Anonymous User wrote:Rising 3L at N-pasteurizedmilk wrote:Median at CCN should be fine.JSC4 wrote:After reading about so many people not being able to find a coveted Big Law job, I was wondering how difficult the process really is.
I mean coming from CCN around the median, how difficult is it to actually get a Big Law job. I imagine there are several jobs out there since there are so many big law firms.
Thanks
Public interest focused so didn't do EIW but many friends in the middle third struck out last year.
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Same was true last year at my school (Virginia).Anonymous User wrote:Yes.thecilent wrote:You're saying many friends near median struck out doing EIW?
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You mean not everyone at a T10 law school is guaranteed a big law job anymore? That's preposterous!
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Hey the economy's a little better now, maybe they will be this year?Cavalier wrote:You mean not everyone at a T10 law school is guaranteed a big law job anymore? That's preposterous!
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Well fuck me, then.Anonymous User wrote:Yes.
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I didn't say it was unexpected. I was just responding to the post that said median is fine.Cavalier wrote:You mean not everyone at a T10 law school is guaranteed a big law job anymore? That's preposterous!
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Um. That's not the same as "many median people at T6 didn't land biglaw."Cavalier wrote:You mean not everyone at a T10 law school is guaranteed a big law job anymore? That's preposterous!
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Also, this.thecilent wrote:Um. That's not the same as "many median people at T6 didn't land biglaw."Cavalier wrote:You mean not everyone at a T10 law school is guaranteed a big law job anymore? That's preposterous!
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Median at CCN, struck out at OCI, checking in here.pasteurizedmilk wrote:Median at CCN should be fine.JSC4 wrote:After reading about so many people not being able to find a coveted Big Law job, I was wondering how difficult the process really is.
I mean coming from CCN around the median, how difficult is it to actually get a Big Law job. I imagine there are several jobs out there since there are so many big law firms.
Thanks
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timbs4339 wrote:Median at CCpasteurizedmilk wrote:Median at CCN should be fine.JSC4 wrote:After reading about so many people not being able to find a coveted Big Law job, I was wondering how difficult the process really is.
I mean coming from CCN around the median, how difficult is it to actually get a Big Law job. I imagine there are several jobs out there since there are so many big law firms.
ThanksN, struck out at OCI, checking in here.
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So how did top 1/3+ fare at MVP and CCN then?
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Do you think the chances of striking out at OCI at NYU are much different from OCI at Chicago or CLS? Or Mich, Virginia or Penn for that matter?thecilent wrote:timbs4339 wrote:Median at CCpasteurizedmilk wrote:Median at CCN should be fine.JSC4 wrote:After reading about so many people not being able to find a coveted Big Law job, I was wondering how difficult the process really is.
I mean coming from CCN around the median, how difficult is it to actually get a Big Law job. I imagine there are several jobs out there since there are so many big law firms.
ThanksN, struck out at OCI, checking in here.
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I think the poster's point was that at NYU the major firm-hiring is done at EIW, not OCI, which features government employers and smaller firms. I will say however that I've seen NYUers refer to EIW as OCI for the sake of clarity or (on the flip side) ambiguity.timbs4339 wrote:Do you think the chances of striking out at OCI at NYU are much different from OCI at Chicago or CLS? Or Mich, Virginia or Penn for that matter?thecilent wrote:timbs4339 wrote:Median at CCpasteurizedmilk wrote: Median at CCN should be fine.N, struck out at OCI, checking in here.
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That clarifies things. I usually just use OCI to mean "all campus interview fairs."zanda wrote:timbs4339 wrote:I think the poster's point was that at NYU the major firm-hiring is done at EIW, not OCI, which features government employers and smaller firms. I will say however that I've seen NYUers refer to EIW as OCI for the sake of clarity or (on the flip side) ambiguity.thecilent wrote:Do you think the chances of striking out at OCI at NYU are much different from OCI at Chicago or CLS? Or Mich, Virginia or Penn for that matter?timbs4339 wrote:
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Stats say that last year 70% of students participating in EIW got something at both CLS and NYU. The thing is outside top 30% or so (say Stone at CLS), and above the very bottom of the class, grades don't matter much. Firms aren't making fine distinctions among top 40% and top 55%. So the 30% of people who don't get jobs aren't all bottom 30%. They're spread out through the class.
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^ Yes, if this recruiting season is teaching me anything its that grades do not matter nearly as much as advertised. Outside of the top and bottom, its all on you.
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Is top 25% enough to distinguish someone?
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T-10? Yes. I know its pretty hard not to get a BIGjob if you rock top 1/3 at Penn.Anonymous User wrote:Is top 25% enough to distinguish someone?
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rayiner wrote:Stats say that last year 70% of students participating in EIW got something at both CLS and NYU. The thing is outside top 30% or so (say Stone at CLS), and above the very bottom of the class, grades don't matter much. Firms aren't making fine distinctions among top 40% and top 55%. So the 30% of people who don't get jobs aren't all bottom 30%. They're spread out through the class.
This exactly. Top third at CCN is a near-guraantee (although you could still fuck it up); beyond that, grades are one of many factors. For example, 100% of the people I personally know who struck out had median-ish grades, but no work experience; while people with interesting resumes all got jobs, regardless of grades.
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