Vacation: when does it actually start and when does it end?

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Stingray--12
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Vacation: when does it actually start and when does it end?

Postby Stingray--12 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:25 am

For biglaw NYC firms, if you take a monday to Friday off, does the firm expect you to be available the prior and following weekend? I.e., can you turn a 5 day vacation into a 9 day vacation as you can with less demanding occupations?

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Re: Vacation: when does it actually start and when does it end?

Postby vanwinkle » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:41 am

It really depends on both the firm and the situation.

There are actually firms where, assuming you don't have anything urgent going on that week, this would actually be a 9-day vacation.

If something urgent does come up, or you're at a firm that's not as accomodating of your vacation time (which is to say, a lot of them), you could spend some part of every day working remotely. Then you don't even have a 5-day vacation, in the way you're takling about having a traditional vacation like "other occupations".

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Re: Vacation: when does it actually start and when does it end?

Postby Stingray--12 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:23 am

I understand that you might have to work remotely on vacation. Specifically, I am wondering if you took Monday to Friday off and then were called to come into the office on the Saturday and you were not able to whether this would look very bad (still able to work all day remotely though and assuming legal work was transaction based).

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Re: Vacation: when does it actually start and when does it end?

Postby alumniguy » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:17 pm

9 day vacation. Period. As a junior, you are pretty much 100% expendable and your vacations are typically work free.

The process is as such (or some variation). You ask for time off (firms usually like full weeks off compared to partial days for the very reason explained below). You get time off. If you are staffed on major deals/cases, you inform partners and/or senior associates a few weeks prior to vacation (especially if you anticipate the deal/case to be crazy leading up to and during your vacation). The week before your vacation you remind partners/senior associates of the deals/cases you're working on. You ask partners/senior associates if they will need coverage in your absence. If so, then you go to the assignments partner (or if no assignments partner ask that partner/senior associate who should cover in your absence). A day or so before vacation you meet with replacement and bring them up to speed on the status of the deal/case. On that Friday, you leave at 5/6pm and everyone tells you to have a good vacation. While on vacation you check blackberry occasionally. You may or may not have to respond to received emails and/or may have to respond to small "fires". You come back to the office the following Monday and everyone asks how your vacation was and you tell them you had a great time.

That is what 99% of vacations look like in biglaw. On the odd chance that your vacation is interrupted, you likely can work remotely. Make sure to tell people you are GOING AWAY for your vacation and you won't ever "be called" into the office. If so, most firms will pay for this (although I've never seen this happen in my 3 years of biglaw).




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