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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:18 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
but I figure the bottom 10 are almost irrelevant as you'll rarely get those interviews anyway.


They are relevant if you bid on secondary markets that few people bid on. I got interviews for my entire bottom 10.


Should I just fill them out with every firm coming from NJ, then? I don't really have connections to any other secondary markets (and I figure Boston gets a fair number of bids, although maybe I should bid a bit more on Boston as well).


I split between NJ and Houston firms, mostly because there weren't enough Houston offices to round out my bid list. Got interviews at all. Got callbacks at all. Didn't get offers at all, but no harm no foul at the end of the day.


Do you know for which cities interview slots tend to still be open at the end? Obviously most of NYC fills up, and presumably DC as well. I would guess Boston fills up, but that's just anecdotal on hearing a lot of people planning to put Boston firms as their ten extras. Do the other big markets (Chicago, SF, LA) fill up?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:21 pm

What if a secondary market is where you want to end up? Should I still bid on them near the end of my list or should I bid on them first just to make sure I get them? There are only about five firms from the secondary market that I am planning to bid on, and I would hate to miss out on a screening interview with any of them.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:34 pm

Relevant info:

GW
Top ~1%
Want to work in DC
Want litigation, but I'm keeping an open mind
GW is 100% preselect, so order of bids doesn't matter

My list: (all DC offices)

Akin Gump
A&P
Baker Botts
Bingham
Cadwalader
Cleary
Covington
Crowell
Dickstein
Fried Frank
Gibson
Goodwin
Hogan
Hughes Hubbard
Jones Day
K&E
Latham
McDermott
McKenna
Morgan Lewis
OMM
Patton Boggs
Paul Hastings
Paul Weiss
Pillsbury Winthrop
Ropes
Sidley
Skadden
Sutherland
White & Case
Wiley Rein
W&C
Willkie
WilmerHale
Winston & Strawn

Questions:

1. Am I missing any DC firms with good litigation practices? (Caveat: They may not be coming to GW's OCI.)
2. I think that I have as good a chance at DC as anyone, but should I still throw a few NY bids in there? I don't hate NY, but I'd much rather stay here.
3. Any firms on the list above that I should stay away from? It's harder to research a firm's dark side.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Kronk » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What if a secondary market is where you want to end up? Should I still bid on them near the end of my list or should I bid on them first just to make sure I get them? There are only about five firms from the secondary market that I am planning to bid on, and I would hate to miss out on a screening interview with any of them.


This was me. Must have accidentally posted anonymous, but still interested.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Top 10-15% midwest T25

First session (Chicago unless noted)

1. Jenner & Block
2. Jones Day
3. Winston & Strawn
4. Sidley Austin
5. Taft (Indianapolis)
6. Varnum (Grand Rapids)
7. McDermott Will & Emery
8. McGuireWoods
9. Dykema (Grand Rapids)
10. Vedder Price
11. Ungaretti & Harris
12. Paul Hastings
13. Rhodes McKee (Grand Rapids)
14. Mika Meyers Beckett & Jones (Grand Rapids)

Second Session

1. Baker & Daniels (Indianapolis)
2. Barnes & Thornburg (Indianapolis)
3. Honigman Miller Schwartz & Cohn (Detroit)
4. Frost Brown Todd (Indianapolis)
5. Kirkland
6. Dickinson Wright (Detroit)
7. Drinker Biddle & Reath
8. Bryan Cave
9. K&L Gates


Not this poster but our numbers must be identical and we're definitely at the same school so bumping for great justice

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby vamedic03 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Relevant info:

GW
Top ~1%
Want to work in DC
Want litigation, but I'm keeping an open mind
GW is 100% preselect, so order of bids doesn't matter

My list: (all DC offices)

Akin Gump
A&P
Baker Botts
Bingham
Cadwalader
Cleary
Covington
Crowell
Dickstein
Fried Frank
Gibson
Goodwin
Hogan
Hughes Hubbard
Jones Day
K&E
Latham
McDermott
McKenna
Morgan Lewis
OMM
Patton Boggs
Paul Hastings
Paul Weiss
Pillsbury Winthrop
Ropes
Sidley
Skadden
Sutherland
White & Case
Wiley Rein
W&C
Willkie
WilmerHale
Winston & Strawn

Questions:

1. Am I missing any DC firms with good litigation practices? (Caveat: They may not be coming to GW's OCI.)
2. I think that I have as good a chance at DC as anyone, but should I still throw a few NY bids in there? I don't hate NY, but I'd much rather stay here.
3. Any firms on the list above that I should stay away from? It's harder to research a firm's dark side.


Steptoe?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:41 pm

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GeePee wrote:See my edit. I think the order of the selective firms you have at the top is fine but I would intermix the more popular, less selective firms. You're in good shape but you just need to cover your bases to not blow it, and ranking some less selective firms in the top 20 to actually get interviews there is how you do that. Unless I'm misunderstanding the gulc system.


Thanks for your advice!

Quick clarifying question- do you think that the quality of firms is good, just the order needs to change?

You're right about how the GULC system works--here is the total bids/# interviews ratio last year

Arnold & Porter 7.6
Sidley 6.9
WilmerHale 5.4
Hogan & Lovells 4.8
Gibson Dunn 2.3
K&E 3.2
Cleary 1.9
Cravath 3.1
White & Case 2.1
Skadden 2.2
Fried Frank 2.8
Davis Polk 0.7
Williams & Connolly 2.4
Covington 1.3
Sullivan & Cromwell 2.6
STB 1.5
Latham 1.9
Paul Weiss 2.2
2d market
2d market
Weil Gotshal 2.4
Debevoise 3.9
Shearman 1.9
Akin Gump 5.2
Ropes & Gray 8.1

I guess what is driving my confusion about ordering is not knowing how to interpret this ratio. So, if a firm has a 2:1 ratio, then how far down can I rank that firm and still get an interview? I didn't want to foreclose an interview w/ Cleary, for example, which is why I ranked them higher vis a vis Akin. Help!



I'm looking at many of the same firms at GULC and have a similarly ordered bid list- I don't think you want to end up kicking yourself because you got interviews with your bottom choices, but missed out on interviews with your top choices- at the end of the day ALL of the firms are overbid so I would bid high the places that you really want a chance at interviewing with. That said, I don't understand probability or statistics which is why I went to law school so I could be totally wrong.

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Re: Post and Critique Bidlists

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:06 am

Anonymous User wrote:School: Midwestern T30
Rank: Top 5%
Goals: Want corporate. Prefer LA, hoping my grades can get me there but would be fine with Chicago. All other firms are Chicago

1. Jones Day LA
2. Latham LA
3. Proskauer Rose LA
4. Foley & Lardner LA
5. Bryan Cave LA
6. Sidley Austin
7. Kirkland & Ellis
8. Paul Hastings
9. Winston & Strawn
10. Jenner & Block
11. K&L Gates
12. Katten
13. DLA Piper
14. Greenberg Traurig
15. Locke Lord
16. Mayer Brown
17. Drinker Biddle
18. Perkins Coie
19. Reed Smith
20. Morgan Lewis & Bockius



I didn't read to see if anyone responded to this already, but if you want corporate, why not add OMM LA and OMM Century City to your list? For the firms without a city listed, are all those Chicago, or are you also planning on applying to the LA offices (e.g., Sidley Austin, Paul Hastings, etc.)?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:14 am

Anonymous User wrote:School: HYS
Rank: Top 30-35% (supposedly)
URM: No

All LA unless noted:

1. Gibson Dunn
2. MoFo
3. Irell
4. Sidley
5. Latham
6. Skadden
7. Quinn
8. OMM
9. Jones Day
10. Bingham
11. Kirkland
12. Paul Hastings
13. MoFo SD
14. Latham SD
15. Sheppard Mullin
16. Akin Gump
17. Jenner
18. Winston & Strawn
19. McDermott Will
20. Orrick
21. Proskauer Rose
22. Foley & Lardner
23. Bryan Cave

Targeted Mailings: Manatt Phelps; Reed Smith; Morgan Lewis; some boutique-type places. Did I miss anything (besides MTO, which I think is a waste of a bid)?



Which OMM office: LA or Century City? Same question for Sheppard Mullin.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:14 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:School: Midwestern T30
Rank: Top 5%
Goals: Want corporate. Prefer LA, hoping my grades can get me there but would be fine with Chicago. All other firms are Chicago

1. Jones Day LA
2. Latham LA
3. Proskauer Rose LA
4. Foley & Lardner LA
5. Bryan Cave LA
6. Sidley Austin
7. Kirkland & Ellis
8. Paul Hastings
9. Winston & Strawn
10. Jenner & Block
11. K&L Gates
12. Katten
13. DLA Piper
14. Greenberg Traurig
15. Locke Lord
16. Mayer Brown
17. Drinker Biddle
18. Perkins Coie
19. Reed Smith
20. Morgan Lewis & Bockius



I didn't read to see if anyone responded to this already, but if you want corporate, why not add OMM LA and OMM Century City to your list? For the firms without a city listed, are all those Chicago, or are you also planning on applying to the LA offices (e.g., Sidley Austin, Paul Hastings, etc.)?


And GT is a meat grinder, for LA why not add Akin Gump

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:39 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Top 10-15% midwest T25

First session (Chicago unless noted)

1. Jenner & Block
2. Jones Day
3. Winston & Strawn
4. Sidley Austin
5. Taft (Indianapolis)
6. Varnum (Grand Rapids)
7. McDermott Will & Emery
8. McGuireWoods
9. Dykema (Grand Rapids)
10. Vedder Price
11. Ungaretti & Harris
12. Paul Hastings
13. Rhodes McKee (Grand Rapids)
14. Mika Meyers Beckett & Jones (Grand Rapids)

Second Session

1. Baker & Daniels (Indianapolis)
2. Barnes & Thornburg (Indianapolis)
3. Honigman Miller Schwartz & Cohn (Detroit)
4. Frost Brown Todd (Indianapolis)
5. Kirkland
6. Dickinson Wright (Detroit)
7. Drinker Biddle & Reath
8. Bryan Cave
9. K&L Gates


Not this poster but our numbers must be identical and we're definitely at the same school so bumping for great justice


Other anon, what's your bidlist like? And your GPA ~

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Re: Post and Critique Bidlists

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:51 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:School: Midwestern T30
Rank: Top 5%
Goals: Want corporate. Prefer LA, hoping my grades can get me there but would be fine with Chicago. All other firms are Chicago

1. Jones Day LA
2. Latham LA
3. Proskauer Rose LA
4. Foley & Lardner LA
5. Bryan Cave LA
6. Sidley Austin
7. Kirkland & Ellis
8. Paul Hastings
9. Winston & Strawn
10. Jenner & Block
11. K&L Gates
12. Katten
13. DLA Piper
14. Greenberg Traurig
15. Locke Lord
16. Mayer Brown
17. Drinker Biddle
18. Perkins Coie
19. Reed Smith
20. Morgan Lewis & Bockius



I didn't read to see if anyone responded to this already, but if you want corporate, why not add OMM LA and OMM Century City to your list? For the firms without a city listed, are all those Chicago, or are you also planning on applying to the LA offices (e.g., Sidley Austin, Paul Hastings, etc.)?


I've definitely got a list of LA firms to mass mail, but this is my list based on who's coming to OCI.

The firms without a city listed are Chicago. I might apply to their LA offices too, although I'm not really sure about how that works if they're interviewing for Chicago only at OCI

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Vronsky » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:33 am

How does one go about making a formula/algorithm for bidding purposes?

For example, if I have information about the number of bids, number of interviews, and ultimately the number of SAs + offers, how can I combine all this to tell me how to rank my firms?

this is somewhat complicated by the fact that many firms have separate info for each office, while others are combined. For example:
Firm X (NY) - 115 bids, 30 interviews
Firm X (DC) - 87 bids, 15 interviews
Firm Y (NY, DC, LA) - 210 bids, 40 interviews

Any help? I'm trying to make an Excel worksheet.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby MBeezy11 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:08 am

Anonymous User wrote:School: NYU
GPA: ~3.7 (just above top 10%, I think)
Focus on transactional work, especially tax
Bidding mainly on NYC with a few bids on Boston and NJ; ties to both

We're allowed to bid up to 50, but I figure the bottom 10 are almost irrelevant as you'll rarely get those interviews anyway. Haven't settled on those yet but would like suggestions. All bids are NYC unless otherwise indicated. (Also, max 40 bids can be NYC, so only seven of the last undecided ten can be NYC unless some other NYC firm is removed.)

1. Skadden
2. Ropes
3. Paul Hastings
4. Cahill
5. Clifford Chance
6. Fried Frank
7. Weil
8. Kaye Scholer
9. Cleary
10. Sullivan & Cromwell
11. Cravath
12. Davis Polk
13. Simpson Thacher
14. Shearman
15. Paul Weiss
16. Debevoise
17. Ropes (Boston)
18. WilmerHale (Boston)
19. Goodwin Procter (Boston)
20. Choate Hall (Boston)
21. Roberts & Holland
22. Wachtell
23. Latham
24. White & Case
25. Chadbourne
26. Dechert
27. Schulte Roth
28. Stroock & Stroock
29. Pillsbury
30. Allen & Overy
31. Linklaters
32. Willkie Farr
33. Freshfields
34. Dewey
35. Cadwalader
36. Akin Gump
37. Jones Day
38. Cole Schotz (NJ)
39. Sills Cummis (NJ)
40. Riker Danzig (NJ)


From experience you do get some of your last 10 choices. Also, if you're interested in transactional practice you should add Kirkland, Milbank, Proskauer, MoFo and Bingham. Also, I think you need to update your rankings. Why is Clifford Chance so high they don't have a strong presence in NY. Wachtell always has openings you can rank them lower.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Vronsky » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:19 pm

Vronsky wrote:How does one go about making a formula/algorithm for bidding purposes?

For example, if I have information about the number of bids, number of interviews, and ultimately the number of SAs + offers, how can I combine all this to tell me how to rank my firms?

this is somewhat complicated by the fact that many firms have separate info for each office, while others are combined. For example:
Firm X (NY) - 115 bids, 30 interviews
Firm X (DC) - 87 bids, 15 interviews
Firm Y (NY, DC, LA) - 210 bids, 40 interviews

Any help? I'm trying to make an Excel worksheet.


Trying to arrange based on bids/interview ratio, but combined with personal interest. Much more of an art than a science at this point. T1% NYC-T2 transfer into T14/T10. Am i trying to game the system too much? A * means i am particularly interested.

1. Kirkland*
2. Linklaters*
3. Ropes & Gray*
4. Paul Hastings*
5. Sidley Austin
6. Latham Watkins
7. Dewey
8. Jones Day
9. Debevoise
10. Kasowitz*
11. Cleary*
12. Boies Schiller
13. Clifford Chance
14. DLA Piper
15. Freshfields
16. Cahill
17. Allen Overy*
18. SullCrom
19. Gibson Dunn*
20. Paul Weiss*
21. Shearman
22. Dechert
23. Fried Frank
24. Sheppard
25. Skadden
26. White + Case
27. Chadbourne
28. Schult
29. Simpson
30. Davis Polk*

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:00 pm

MBeezy11 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:School: NYU
GPA: ~3.7 (just above top 10%, I think)
Focus on transactional work, especially tax
Bidding mainly on NYC with a few bids on Boston and NJ; ties to both

We're allowed to bid up to 50, but I figure the bottom 10 are almost irrelevant as you'll rarely get those interviews anyway. Haven't settled on those yet but would like suggestions. All bids are NYC unless otherwise indicated. (Also, max 40 bids can be NYC, so only seven of the last undecided ten can be NYC unless some other NYC firm is removed.)

1. Skadden
2. Ropes
3. Paul Hastings
4. Cahill
5. Clifford Chance
6. Fried Frank
7. Weil
8. Kaye Scholer
9. Cleary
10. Sullivan & Cromwell
11. Cravath
12. Davis Polk
13. Simpson Thacher
14. Shearman
15. Paul Weiss
16. Debevoise
17. Ropes (Boston)
18. WilmerHale (Boston)
19. Goodwin Procter (Boston)
20. Choate Hall (Boston)
21. Roberts & Holland
22. Wachtell
23. Latham
24. White & Case
25. Chadbourne
26. Dechert
27. Schulte Roth
28. Stroock & Stroock
29. Pillsbury
30. Allen & Overy
31. Linklaters
32. Willkie Farr
33. Freshfields
34. Dewey
35. Cadwalader
36. Akin Gump
37. Jones Day
38. Cole Schotz (NJ)
39. Sills Cummis (NJ)
40. Riker Danzig (NJ)


From experience you do get some of your last 10 choices. Also, if you're interested in transactional practice you should add Kirkland, Milbank, Proskauer, MoFo and Bingham. Also, I think you need to update your rankings. Why is Clifford Chance so high they don't have a strong presence in NY. Wachtell always has openings you can rank them lower.



I'm a little confused by some of this advice. I have (before this advice) lowered Clifford Chance, but they have a significant NY presence, and more importantly their NYC office (about 200 lawyers) is all transactional, not that different from firms that have 300-400 lawyers but 100 or more are litigators. They also have a pretty big tax practice, at 16 lawyers, which is one of the larger in NYC I've found while perusing NALP.

I originally thought Bingham wasn't at EIW as I didn't see them on the Boston list, but they are interviewing for NYC, so I added them. Not sure why MoFo was left off, but they're on there now. The one thing that worries me about MoFo is that they have very few interview slots for NYC (only 42), so they may not be hiring much for NYC.

I think this new list is a little bit more aggressive, and I'm not sure whether it's too aggressive or not. (Some of the odd rankings may be due to Chambers and Partners ranking them high for tax in NYC, for those unfamiliar with tax.)


School: NYU
GPA: ~3.7
Transactional, tax


1. Skadden
2. Cahill
3. Willkie Farr
4. Fried Frank
5. Weil
6. Sullivan & Cromwell
7. Cleary
8. Cadwalader
9. MoFo
10. Cravath
11. Davis Polk
12. Paul Weiss
13. Roberts & Holland
14. Debevoise
15. Dewey
16. Shearman
17. Simpson Thacher
18. Latham
19. Patterson Belknap
20. Milbank
21. Clifford Chance
22. Ropes
23. Bingham
24. Gibson Dunn
25. Kaye Scholer
26. Kirkland
27. Wachtell
28. Sidley Austin
29. White & Case
30. Proskauer
31. Chadbourne
32. Dechert
33. Schulte Roth
34. Stroock & Stroock
35. Allen & Overy
36. Linklaters
37. Freshfields
38. Akin Gump
39. Jones Day
40. Goodwin Procter
41. Ropes (Boston)
42. Skadden (Boston)
43. WilmerHale (Boston)
44. Goodwin Procter (Boston)
45. Choate Hall (Boston)
46. Goulston (Boston)
47. Mintz Levin (Boston)
48. Lowenstein Sandler (NJ)
49. Cole Schotz (NJ)
50. Fox Rothschild (Roseland, NJ)

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Kronk » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:13 pm

Anyone know relatively how selective Keker is?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:15 pm

Kronk wrote:Anyone know relatively how selective Keker is?


Really selective. They only have 4-5 summers, and routinely hire from clerkships. Having asked this question before, I forget where, the response I got was not the most selective (i.e. W & C, Munger, etc.), but probably not too far from there.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby GeePee » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
GeePee wrote:See my edit. I think the order of the selective firms you have at the top is fine but I would intermix the more popular, less selective firms. You're in good shape but you just need to cover your bases to not blow it, and ranking some less selective firms in the top 20 to actually get interviews there is how you do that. Unless I'm misunderstanding the gulc system.


Thanks for your advice!

Quick clarifying question- do you think that the quality of firms is good, just the order needs to change?

You're right about how the GULC system works--here is the total bids/# interviews ratio last year

Arnold & Porter 7.6
Sidley 6.9
WilmerHale 5.4
Hogan & Lovells 4.8
Gibson Dunn 2.3
K&E 3.2
Cleary 1.9
Cravath 3.1
White & Case 2.1
Skadden 2.2
Fried Frank 2.8
Davis Polk 0.7
Williams & Connolly 2.4
Covington 1.3
Sullivan & Cromwell 2.6
STB 1.5
Latham 1.9
Paul Weiss 2.2
2d market
2d market
Weil Gotshal 2.4
Debevoise 3.9
Shearman 1.9
Akin Gump 5.2
Ropes & Gray 8.1

I guess what is driving my confusion about ordering is not knowing how to interpret this ratio. So, if a firm has a 2:1 ratio, then how far down can I rank that firm and still get an interview? I didn't want to foreclose an interview w/ Cleary, for example, which is why I ranked them higher vis a vis Akin. Help!



I'm looking at many of the same firms at GULC and have a similarly ordered bid list- I don't think you want to end up kicking yourself because you got interviews with your bottom choices, but missed out on interviews with your top choices- at the end of the day ALL of the firms are overbid so I would bid high the places that you really want a chance at interviewing with. That said, I don't understand probability or statistics which is why I went to law school so I could be totally wrong.

Getting write-in interviews on the morning of with a couple of random firms that you are interested in, but don't rank highly, is much easier when there are 1.5-2x as many bids as interviews than when there are 8 times as many bids as interview slots. If you are at all interested in any of those firms, I would rank them highly.

It's not a completely invalid strategy to rank the firms that you want the most at the top of the list. It accomplishes one of your stated goals -- not missing out on any interviews with your top choices. But, when you're a prestige whore and your top 20 choices are 16 highly competitive D.C. offices, 2 firms in a secondary market, and 2 other random firms, you're setting yourself up for disaster. If it were me, I wouldn't be that ballsy, especially when it comes to ranking firms where there are about as many bids as interview slots in favor of firms that you either rank high or have no chance of interviewing at.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:59 pm

School: NYU
GPA: 3.11
URM: Yes

Clifford Chance US LLP
Vinson & Elkins LLP
Reed Smith LLP
Baker & Hostetler LLP
Pryor Cashman LLP
Allen & Overy LLP
Linklaters LLP
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle LLP
Seward & Kissel LLP (, NY)Aug 17th
Alston & Bird LLP
Greenberg Traurig, LLP
Nixon Peabody LLP
Goodwin Procter LLP
Kirkland & Ellis LLP
Proskauer Rose LLP
Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP
Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP
Kaye Scholer LLP
Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
Winston & Strawn LLP
DLA Piper
Hogan Lovells
King & Spalding
White & Case LLP
K&L Gates LLP
Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP
Shearman & Sterling LLP
Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP
Dewey & LeBoeuf LLP
Ropes & Gray LLP
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP
Chadbourne & Parke LLP
Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP
Dechert LLP
Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP
Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker LLP

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:35 pm

Top 10% at BC/BU

Our OCI is 70% preselect and 30% lottery so the rankings don't matter all that much so long as my top choices are up top. Many of the top NYC firms will be at our off campus NYC program, so this list is fairly Boston heavy. NY is my focus though so many of the NY firms/offices are close to the top. We get 40 bids, but I've only listed out my top 25

1. Ropes & Gray (NY & Boston)
2. Skadden (NY)
3. Dechert (NY)
4. Jones Day (NY & Boston)
5. Cadwalader (NY)
6. Brown Rudnick (NY & Boston)
7. Arnold & Porter (NY)
8. Weil (Boston)
9. WilmerHale (Boston)
10. Goodwin Procter (Boston)
11. Bingham McCutchen (Boston)
12. Foley Hoag (Boston)
13. Holland & Knight (NY & Boston)
14. Goulston & Storrs (Boston)
15. Edwards Angel (Boston)
16. Mintz Levin (Boston)
17. Nutter McClennen (Boston)
18. Foley Lardner (NY & Boston)
19. Cooley (NY & Boston)
20. Choate (Boston)
21. K & L Gates (Boston)
22. Proskauer Rose (Boston)
23. Skadden (Boston)
24. Nixon Peabody (Boston)
25. Hahn & Hessen (NY)

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:43 pm

Kronk wrote:Anyone know relatively how selective Keker is?

I'm bidding on them with Top 20% at Stanford and was told it was a reach with my grades. It seems like they want Top 10% from just about everywhere (similar to what I hear about Susman), but was told they're very focused on personality as well. Their CB:offer rate has historically been about 4:1 or 5:1, so the personality focus seems accurate.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:38 pm

HYS, ~Top 25%
All Lottery
Interested in Litigation
All Firms are NY unless otherwise specified.

1. Boies Schiller
2. Arnold & Porter
3. Akin Gump
4. Sidley Austin
5. Cahill Gordon
6. MoFo
7. WilmerHale (DC)
8. Kirkland & Ellis
9. Stroock & Stroock & Lavan
10. OMM
11. Debevoise & Plimpton
12. Orrick Herrington
13. Gibson Dunn (DC)
14. Covington (DC)
15. Patterson Belknap
16. Ropes & Gray (DC)
17. Milbank Tweed
18. Quinn Emanuel
19. Paul Weiss
20. Cleary Gottlieb
21. Mayer Brown
22. Proskauer Rose
23. STB
24. Allen and Overy
25. Crowell & Moring
26. Hughes Hubbard
27. Morgan Lewis

I have a few more bids to play around with. Is my list on the conservative end? Can I add more reach firms, and any suggestions for ones to add (trying to avoid lit departments that basically boil down to transactional backup)? I'm open to both NY and DC firms; my preferred location is NY, but DC firms do work that's more in line with what I'd prefer.

Also, W&C is sort of my dream firm, but I don't think I have a shot with my grades and am therefore not wasting a bid. Would law review change that?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby GeePee » Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:School: NYU
GPA: 3.11
URM: Yes

Clifford Chance US LLP
Vinson & Elkins LLP
Reed Smith LLP
Baker & Hostetler LLP
Pryor Cashman LLP
Allen & Overy LLP
Linklaters LLP
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle LLP
Seward & Kissel LLP (, NY)Aug 17th
Alston & Bird LLP
Greenberg Traurig, LLP
Nixon Peabody LLP
Goodwin Procter LLP
Kirkland & Ellis LLP
Proskauer Rose LLP
Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP
Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP
Kaye Scholer LLP
Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
Winston & Strawn LLP
DLA Piper
Hogan Lovells
King & Spalding
White & Case LLP
K&L Gates LLP
Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP
Shearman & Sterling LLP
Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP
Dewey & LeBoeuf LLP
Ropes & Gray LLP
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP
Chadbourne & Parke LLP
Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP
Dechert LLP
Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP
Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker LLP

Methinks this is a good NY transactional list in your position. Well done.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:HYS, ~Top 25%
All Lottery
Interested in Litigation
All Firms are NY unless otherwise specified.

....

I have a few more bids to play around with. Is my list on the conservative end? Can I add more reach firms, and any suggestions for ones to add (trying to avoid lit departments that basically boil down to transactional backup)? I'm open to both NY and DC firms; my preferred location is NY, but DC firms do work that's more in line with what I'd prefer.

Also, W&C is sort of my dream firm, but I don't think I have a shot with my grades and am therefore not wasting a bid. Would law review change that?


Good list, a little on the conservative side. Add Kasowitz if you want lit in NYC. Definitely bid W&C, and bid them high if you want them; your grades are absolutely good enough to "waste" a bid on your dream firm. You definitely have a shot, even without LR (though it's not a great, or even good, shot).




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