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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:40 am

seriouslyinformative wrote:
Akin Gump or MoFo, if it turns out you value firm culture over prestige


I understand the preference for lower hours, but Akin Gump will give you terrible job security. I don't know where you're gathering the notion that taking a job at Akin is in any way better for someone than taking a job with Cravath. MoFo also isn't doing super hot, but they aren't nearly as bad as Akin, so I can let that slide.


I didn't know Akin Gump was taking a beating. Is it affecting their Texas offices?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:52 am

Top 11 % percent at GW. Secondary Law Journal. Here's what I have so far. Suggestions for others would be great.

Axinn, Veltrop & Harkrider
Bingham McCutchen
Bryan Cave
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft
Cleary
Covington & Burling
Cozen O'Connor
Dechert
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson
Gibson Dunn & Crutcher
Goodwin Proctor
K&L Gates
McKenna Long & Alridge
Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton
Steptoe Johnson
Vinson & Elkins
Wilely Rein

Thanks!

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:53 am

Personally, I think it makes more sense to focus efforts on large class sizes as these firms typically must make several more offers than spots to get the right incoming class size. Full disclosure, I haven't looked at NALP in years so I have no idea of summer class sizes, just going from my limited experiences as a practicing attorney.


alumniguy, thanks for the advice and some good firms i really appreciate it.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:40 pm

I'm top 10% at a T25.
I just sent cover letters/resume/transcripts to the following firms:

Alston + Bird
Arent Fox
Cadwalader
Akin Gump
Chadbourne
Cleary
Shearman & Sterling
Clifford Chance
Davis Polk
Cravath
Debevoise & Plimpton
Dechert


Think I'll get a CB from any of them? (All NYC offices)

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby zILch » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:33 pm

Richie Tenenbaum wrote:
seriouslyinformative wrote:
Akin Gump or MoFo, if it turns out you value firm culture over prestige


I understand the preference for lower hours, but Akin Gump will give you terrible job security. I don't know where you're gathering the notion that taking a job at Akin is in any way better for someone than taking a job with Cravath. MoFo also isn't doing super hot, but they aren't nearly as bad as Akin, so I can let that slide.


I didn't know Akin Gump was taking a beating. Is it affecting their Texas offices?



I've also not heard that Akin is doing worse than similar firms... Interesting. I'll have to look into it!

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:27 am

Fordham - top ~3%, LR - corporate/transactional - thoughts overall? Also need to cut 5 from the list, and possibly more as I'm debating whether to add any of Mayer Brown, Orrick, Willkie Farr, or Skadden instead.

1. Fried Frank
2. Simpson Thacher
3. Cleary
4. Sidley Austin
5. Kramer Levin
6. Hughes Hubbard
7. Proskauer Rose
8. Kirkland & Ellis
9. Debevoise Plimpton
10. Cahill
11. Weil Gottshal
12. Morrison & Foerster
13. Hahn & Hessen
14. Hogan Lovells
15. Shearman & Sterling
16. Dewey & LeBeouf
17. Clifford Chance
18. Holland & Knight
19. Davis Polk
20. Shepard Mullin
21. Seward & Kissel
22. Jones Day
23. Bingham McCutchen
24. Stroock & Stroock
25. Milbank Tweed
26. Greenberg Traurig
27. Mintz Levin
28. Bracewell & Giuliani
29. Paul Hastings
30. Bingham McCutchen
31. White & Case
32. Paul Weiss
33. Cravath
34. Gibson Dunn
35. Chadbourne & Park
36. Dechert
37. Haynes Boone
38. Bryan Cave
39. Cadwalader
40. Schulte Roth

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:41 am

First session bidlist- roughly top 10% and LR at midwest T25- # of interviews in parentheses- some Michigan and Indiana ties

Jenner- Chicago (24)
Varnum- Grand Rapids (24)
Jones Day- Chicago (24)
Taft- Indianapolis (12)
Vedder Price- Chicago (24)
Winston- Chicago (24)
Paul Hastings- Chicago (24)
Rhodes McKee- Grand Rapids (24)
Chapman & Cutler- Chicago (48)
McDermott Will & Emery- Chicago- Trial (48)
Mika [deleted] Beckett & Jones- Grand Rapids (24)
Benesch- Indy (16)
Jones Day- New York (8)
Dykema- Grand Rapids (7)
Ungaretti & Harris- Chicago (24)

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:04 pm

Stats: Top 40% MVP. Ties to NY + LA. Global Bank 1L SA (transactional).

I have three bids left and no idea what order I should my bids in. Does anyone mind taking a crack at listing my top 15? Are there any glaring omissions? Thanks in advance!

California (all LA/SD firms, in no order)
Baker Hostetler
Bryan Cave
DLA Piper
Foley & Larder
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
Holland & Knight
K&L Gates
Latham
Mayer Brown
Morgan, Lewis, & Bockius
Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pitman
Proskauer Rose
Winton & Strawn
O'Melveny & [deleted]
Jones Day


New York(in no order)

Allen & Overy
Alston & Bird
Baker & McKenzie
Baker Hostelter
Brown Rudnick
Bryan Cave
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft
Cahill, Gordon, Reindel
Chadbourne & Parke
Clifford Chance
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle
Davis Polk
Dechert
Debevoise
Dewey & LeBoeuf
Foley & Larder
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
Haynes & Boone
Holland & Knight
Jones Day
K&L Gates
Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman
Katten Muchin Rosenman
Latham
Mayer Brown
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
Morgan, Lewis, & Bockius
Nixon Peabody
Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman
Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe
Proskauer Rose
Schulte Roth & Zabel
Seward & Kissel
Sheaman & Sterling
Sidley Austin
Troutman Sanders
Vinson & Elkins
Wiel, Gotshal & Manges
White & Case
Willkie Farr & Gallagher
WilmerHale
Winston & Strawn

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby 03121202698008 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Stats: Top 40% MVP. Ties to NY + LA. Global Bank 1L SA (transactional).

I have three bids left and no idea what order I should my bids in. Does anyone mind taking a crack at listing my top 15? Are there any glaring omissions? Thanks in advance!

California (all LA/SD firms, in no order)


New York(in no order)



Did you just post the entire NYC list from symplicity or what? Do you really have that many bids?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:42 pm

GW FT, top 1-15% (3.8 GPA), law review, URM. All pre-select, allowed 35 bids. Which of mine am I throwing away by making the following list?

Arnold & Porter
Cleary Gottlieb
Cooley
Kaye Scholer
Latham & Watkins
Nixon Peabody
Reed Smith
Shearman & Sterling
Skadden
Chadbourne & Parke
Covington
Kirkland Ellis
McKenna Long
Paul Hastings
Jones Day
Foley & Lardner
Venable
Cadwalader
Akin Gump
Holland & Knight
Patton Boggs
Arent Fox
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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby scribelaw » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:GW FT, top 1-15% (3.8 GPA), law review. All pre-select, allowed 35 bids. Which of mine am I throwing away by making the following list?

Arnold Porter
Cleary Gottlieb
Cooley
Kaye
Latham
Nixon Peabody
Reed Smith
Shearman
Skadden
Chadbourne
Covington
Kirkland Ellis
McKenna Long
Paul Hastings
Jones Day
Foley
Venable
Cadwalader
Akin Gump
Holland
Patton Boggs
Arent Fox


Top 1-15 percent? You need to narrow that down to get meaningful advice.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:46 pm

scribelaw wrote:Top 1-15 percent? You need to narrow that down to get meaningful advice.


Unfortunately, that's the only actual ranking they give us (they rank in two huge bands), which is why I included the GPA. If I had to guesstimate, I'd guess that I'm in the top 10%, possibly the top 5%; unfortunately, I have no real way to know.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:08 pm

Top 5% at T25 (not Davis or IU). Law Review. From the Midwest.

Targeting Chicago.

JonesDay
McGuireWoods
Winston & Strawn
Jenner Block
McDermott Will & Emery
Vedder Price
Paul Hastings
Ungaretti and Harris

Pure bid. The system assigns people who put a firm at number one first, then everybody who put it number two, etc.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm top 10% at a T25.
I just sent cover letters/resume/transcripts to the following firms:

Alston + Bird
Arent Fox
Cadwalader
Akin Gump
Chadbourne
Cleary
Shearman & Sterling
Clifford Chance
Davis Polk
Cravath
Debevoise & Plimpton
Dechert


Think I'll get a CB from any of them? (All NYC offices)



Anyone?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby thesealocust » Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:42 pm

Hard to say, except that silence is golden and you certainly have a shot at most or all of those but mass mailing is always long odds. Nobody can handicap it for you much beyond that I don't think.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:12 pm

Around top 5%, fordham law review. Is my bid too aggressive?

1. Kirkland & Ellis LLP.
2. Skadden.
3. Cleary.
4. Sidley Austin
5. Simpson.
6. Cahill
7. MoFo
8. Latham.
9. Debevois.
10. Quinn
11. Milbank
12. Freshfields
13. Weil
14. Gibson
15. Proskaur
16. Bingham
17. Jones Day
18. Davis Polk
19. Fried Franks
20. Allen Overy
21. Shearmin Sterling
22. White & Case
23. Alston & Bird
24. Cadwaladar
25. Clifford Chance K&L Gates
26. Winston Strawn
27. Orrick
28. Cravath
29. Morgan
30. O’Melveny & [deleted]
31. Patterson
32. Paul Weiss
33. Ropes
34. Wilmerhale
35. Sullivan.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby 5ky » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Around top 5%, fordham law review. Is my bid too aggressive?

1. Kirkland & Ellis LLP.
2. Skadden.
3. Cleary.
4. Sidley Austin
5. Simpson.
6. Cahill
7. MoFo
8. Latham.
9. Debevois.
10. Quinn
11. Milbank
12. Freshfields
13. Weil
14. Gibson
15. Proskaur
16. Bingham
17. Jones Day
18. Davis Polk
19. Fried Franks
20. Allen Overy
21. Shearmin Sterling
22. White & Case
23. Alston & Bird
24. Cadwaladar
25. Clifford Chance K&L Gates
26. Winston Strawn
27. Orrick
28. Cravath
29. Morgan
30. O’Melveny & [deleted]
31. Patterson
32. Paul Weiss
33. Ropes
34. Wilmerhale
35. Sullivan.


This looks okay to me, pending review of those more knowledgable of Fordham's placement.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby dood » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:02 am

Anonymous User wrote:GW FT, top 1-15% (3.8 GPA), law review, URM. All pre-select, allowed 35 bids. Which of mine am I throwing away by making the following list?

-Arnold & Porter
-Cleary Gottlieb
+Cooley
+Kaye Scholer
+Latham & Watkins
-Nixon Peabody
+Reed Smith
-Shearman & Sterling
-Skadden
Chadbourne & Parke
-Covington
-Kirkland Ellis
+McKenna Long
+Paul Hastings
+Jones Day
+Foley & Lardner
+Venable
-Cadwalader
+Akin Gump
+Holland & Knight
+Patton Boggs
+Arent Fox


none are wasted per se. u have different chances for all, some higher some lower, but all in the running. ones with a "-" means lesser chances between 1-50%. + means more than 50% chance.

fwi: 3.8 got 15-20 screener interviews at gw frp last year.

edit: i have no fucking idea wat a "Chadbourne & Parke" is.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Geist13 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:16 am

How are people treating a firm's GPA cutoffs for the purposes of bidding. I'm top 30% with law review. Am I just wasting my time (and bids) with firms that say top 25% required?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby thesealocust » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:25 am

Geist13 wrote:How are people treating a firm's GPA cutoffs for the purposes of bidding. I'm top 30% with law review. Am I just wasting my time (and bids) with firms that say top 25% required?


thesealocust wrote:
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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Grizz » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:27 am

Man sealocust people never seem to get the message.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby thesealocust » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:27 am

rad law wrote:Man sealocust people never seem to get the message.


If only I could quote myself more than 4 times :(

Edit: Fixed that problem. Thanks, imgur. You're helping.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Grizz » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:32 am

thesealocust wrote:
rad law wrote:Man sealocust people never seem to get the message.


If only I could quote myself more than 4 times :(

Edit: Fixed that problem. Thanks, imgur. You're helping.


Enjoy

thesealocust wrote:
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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby thesealocust » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:34 am

Wait... we just did the exact same thing (but the imgur links are different, meaning we each did it)

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Grizz » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:36 am

thesealocust wrote:Wait... we just did the exact same thing (but the imgur links are different, meaning we each did it)


We did the exact same thing. Great minds bro.




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