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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:29 pm

About a ~3.15 at MVP, URM. Looking at NY and have a preference for lit. I know I'm not in a great position, but please let me know if my ordered list below is sensible. I tried to highly rank firms that have taken people with my GPA, firms with high offer rates at my school, and firms with large class sizes. Thanks.
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1. Mayer Brown LLP
Kaye Scholer LLP
Venable LLP
Chadbourne & Parke LLP
Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP
Baker & Hostetler LLP
Brown Rudnick Berlack Israels LLP
Shearman & Sterling LLP
Proskauer LLP
Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
Dewey & LeBoeuf LLP
Schulthe Roth & Zabel LLP
Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker LLP
Seward & Kissel LLP
Sidley Austin LLP
Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP
Clifford Chance US LLP
Jones Day
O'Melveny & [deleted] LLP
24. DLA Piper

(after this, it's all small/midsize secondary market firms and a few smaller NY firms with high bid success rates)

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby FlightoftheEarls » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:ill try here.
fordham top 6%.
60/40 system.
is my bidlist too aggressive?

1. Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP.
2. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP.
3. Dais, Polk & Wardwell LLP.
4. Debevoise & Plimpton LLP
5. Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP.
6. Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan LLP
7. Cravath Swaine & Moore
8. Sullivan & Cromwell.
9. Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP.
10. Kirkland & Ellis LLP.
11. Latham & Watkins LLP (New York).
12. edit.
13. Paul Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP.
14. Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler LLP.
15. Wilmerhale.
16. Weil , Gotshal & Manges LLP.
17. White & Case LLP.
18. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP.
19. Sidley Austin LLP
20. Ropes & Gray LLP.
21. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP.
22. Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP.
23. Jones Day.
24. Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP.
25. Kramer Levin, Naftalis & Frankel.
26. Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP.
27. O’Melveny & Meyers LLP.
28. Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP.
29. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP.
30. Alston & Bird LLP.
31. Allen & Overy.
32. Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP.
33. Dewey & Leboeuf.
34. DLA Pipers.
35. Winston & Strawn LLP.

I have to confess that I'm not familiar with what a 60/40 system entails (would anyone care to explain?), but I would more or less invert your entire bidlist if it were a basic lottery system.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby OnceUponAMemo » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:46 pm

FlightoftheEarls wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:ill try here.
fordham top 6%.
60/40 system.
is my bidlist too aggressive?

1. Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP.
2. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP.
3. Dais, Polk & Wardwell LLP.
4. Debevoise & Plimpton LLP
5. Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP.
6. Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan LLP
7. Cravath Swaine & Moore
8. Sullivan & Cromwell.
9. Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP.
10. Kirkland & Ellis LLP.
11. Latham & Watkins LLP (New York).
12. edit.
13. Paul Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP.
14. Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler LLP.
15. Wilmerhale.
16. Weil , Gotshal & Manges LLP.
17. White & Case LLP.
18. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP.
19. Sidley Austin LLP
20. Ropes & Gray LLP.
21. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP.
22. Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP.
23. Jones Day.
24. Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP.
25. Kramer Levin, Naftalis & Frankel.
26. Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP.
27. O’Melveny & Meyers LLP.
28. Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP.
29. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP.
30. Alston & Bird LLP.
31. Allen & Overy.
32. Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP.
33. Dewey & Leboeuf.
34. DLA Pipers.
35. Winston & Strawn LLP.

I have to confess that I'm not familiar with what a 60/40 system entails (would anyone care to explain?), but I would more or less invert your entire bidlist if it were a basic lottery system.



60/40 just means 60% of any given employer's interview slots are preselected by that employer while the other 40% are given based on a lottery and who bids these firms the highest.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:54 pm

Top 25-35 % @ HLS
URM
Strong relevant work experience

I want to do m&a in new york. I will put together a list once I get a better sense for how eip works. I know very little about bidding strategy, and am wondering how highly I need to bid on firms like, say, Sullcrom, in order to assure myself of an interview. Is there anything to the idea that the uber selective firms tend to be underbid?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:56 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Top 25-35 % @ HLS
URM
Strong relevant work experience

I want to do m&a in new york. I will put together a list once I get a better sense for how eip works. I know very little about bidding strategy, and am wondering how I need to bid on, say, Sullcrom, in order to assure myself of an interview with them. Is there anything to the idea that the uber selective firms tend to be underbid?


I'm in a similar position (HLS, top 10%, URM). Sullcrom and similar prestigious firms are heavily bid on (according to anecdotal evidence I got from 3Ls and OCS), so if you really want Sullcrom you should bid it high.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:13 pm

FlightoftheEarls wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:ill try here.
fordham top 6%.
60/40 system.
is my bidlist too aggressive?

1. Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP.
2. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP.
3. Dais, Polk & Wardwell LLP.
4. Debevoise & Plimpton LLP
5. Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP.
6. Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan LLP
7. Cravath Swaine & Moore
8. Sullivan & Cromwell.
9. Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP.
10. Kirkland & Ellis LLP.
11. Latham & Watkins LLP (New York).
12. edit.
13. Paul Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP.
14. Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler LLP.
15. Wilmerhale.
16. Weil , Gotshal & Manges LLP.
17. White & Case LLP.
18. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP.
19. Sidley Austin LLP
20. Ropes & Gray LLP.
21. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP.
22. Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP.
23. Jones Day.
24. Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP.
25. Kramer Levin, Naftalis & Frankel.
26. Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP.
27. O’Melveny & Meyers LLP.
28. Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP.
29. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP.
30. Alston & Bird LLP.
31. Allen & Overy.
32. Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP.
33. Dewey & Leboeuf.
34. DLA Pipers.
35. Winston & Strawn LLP.

I have to confess that I'm not familiar with what a 60/40 system entails (would anyone care to explain?), but I would more or less invert your entire bidlist if it were a basic lottery system.

OP here. Sorry, I should have clarified. It pretty much means students choose 40% and the firms get to choose 60%.
are you suggesting i invert my list b/c my chances at the top of my list are unlikely?
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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:16 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Top 10-15% ND

First session (Chicago unless noted)

1. Jenner & Block
2. Jones Day
3. Winston & Strawn
4. Sidley Austin
5. Taft (Indianapolis)
6. Varnum (Grand Rapids)
7. McDermott Will & Emery
8. McGuireWoods
9. Dykema (Grand Rapids)
10. Vedder Price
11. Ungaretti & Harris
12. Paul Hastings
13. Rhodes McKee (Grand Rapids)
14. Mika Meyers Beckett & Jones (Grand Rapids)

Second Session

1. Baker & Daniels (Indianapolis)
2. Barnes & Thornburg (Indianapolis)
3. Honigman Miller Schwartz & Cohn (Detroit)
4. Frost Brown Todd (Indianapolis)
5. Kirkland
6. Dickinson Wright (Detroit)
7. Drinker Biddle & Reath
8. Bryan Cave
9. K&L Gates


Not this poster but our numbers must be identical and we're definitely at the same school so bumping for great justice

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:27 pm

I'm around median at NYU. I'm using my high bids on the popular firms where I have a puncher's chance at a callback. Bids 21-30 are mostly reaches with a lot of interview slots and non-tiny SA classes. I'm not sure I'm using the middle-to-late bids very effectively though, especially for the CA offices that don't have many interview slots. Any feedback is appreciated.

All bids are for NYC unless noted otherwise. I have strong ties to LA and the Bay Area.

1 Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
2 Kaye Scholer LLP
3 Brown Rudnick Berlack Israels LLP
4 Linklaters LLP (US)
5 Proskauer Rose LLP
6 Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton LLP (LA)
7 Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
8 Dewey & LeBoeuf LLP
9 Winston & Strawn LLP
10 Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP
11 Dechert LLP
12 Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP
13 Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP
14 Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP
15 Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP
16 Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP
17 K&L Gates LLP
18 Goodwin Procter LLP
19 Chadbourne & Parke LLP
20 Morrison & Foerster LLP (SF)
21 Ropes & Gray LLP
22 Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (Palo Alto)
23 Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
24 Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP
25 Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP
26 Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP
27 Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP
28 Foley & Lardner LLP (LA)
29 Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler LLP
30 Mayer Brown
31 McDermott Will & Emery LLP
32 Bingham McCutchen LLP
33 O'Melveny & [deleted] LLP (Century City)
34 Manatt, Phelps & Phillips, LLP (LA)
35 Holland & Knight LLP (LA)
36 Alston & Bird LLP (LA)
37 Hogan Lovells
38 Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP (US)
39 Shearman & Sterling LLP
40 Clifford Chance US LLP
41 DLA Piper
42 Reed Smith LLP
43 Fox Rothschild LLP (LA)
44 Hunton & Williams LLP (LA)
45 Bryan Cave LLP (LA)
46 Greenberg Traurig, LLP
47 Nixon Peabody LLP
48 King & Spalding
49 Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP
50 Latham & Watkins LLP

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:41 pm

So no one has any ideas about how a top 30% student at one of UCLA/UT/USC should bid?

Should I focus on LA, or smaller peripheral SoCal markets like Newport Beach, SD, etc.? I'm thinking that I should apply around the range of Greenburg Traurig, Venable, Perkins Coie, etc.

Thoughts? I'd make a more formalized bid list, but I really have no idea where to start.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:28 pm

~top 20% CLS

1 Wachtell
2 Cravath
3 SulCrom
4 Skadden
5 Davis Polk
6 Simpson Thacher
7 Weil
8 Cleary
9 Kirkland Ellis
10 Covington
11 Latham
12 Debevoise
13 Paul Weiss
14 Gibson Dunn
15 Clifford Chance
16 Linklaters
17 Cahill
18 Sidley Austin
19 White and Case



I don't know what to do with the rest of my bids. I am worried that I do not have any safeties.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:28 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Top 10-15% ND

First session (Chicago unless noted)

1. Jenner & Block
2. Jones Day
3. Winston & Strawn
4. Sidley Austin
5. Taft (Indianapolis)
6. Varnum (Grand Rapids)
7. McDermott Will & Emery
8. McGuireWoods
9. Dykema (Grand Rapids)
10. Vedder Price
11. Ungaretti & Harris
12. Paul Hastings
13. Rhodes McKee (Grand Rapids)
14. Mika Meyers Beckett & Jones (Grand Rapids)

Second Session

1. Baker & Daniels (Indianapolis)
2. Barnes & Thornburg (Indianapolis)
3. Honigman Miller Schwartz & Cohn (Detroit)
4. Frost Brown Todd (Indianapolis)
5. Kirkland
6. Dickinson Wright (Detroit)
7. Drinker Biddle & Reath
8. Bryan Cave
9. K&L Gates


Not this poster but our numbers must be identical and we're definitely at the same school so bumping for great justice


First anon...probably not enough people in our situation on here to give us feedback. Bidding started now, so it's getting down to the wire.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby FlightoftheEarls » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:34 am

Anonymous User wrote:
FlightoftheEarls wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:ill try here.
fordham top 6%.
60/40 system.
is my bidlist too aggressive?

1. Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP.
2. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP.
3. Dais, Polk & Wardwell LLP.
4. Debevoise & Plimpton LLP
5. Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP.
6. Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan LLP
7. Cravath Swaine & Moore
8. Sullivan & Cromwell.
9. Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP.
10. Kirkland & Ellis LLP.
11. Latham & Watkins LLP (New York).
12. edit.
13. Paul Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP.
14. Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler LLP.
15. Wilmerhale.
16. Weil , Gotshal & Manges LLP.
17. White & Case LLP.
18. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP.
19. Sidley Austin LLP
20. Ropes & Gray LLP.
21. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP.
22. Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP.
23. Jones Day.
24. Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP.
25. Kramer Levin, Naftalis & Frankel.
26. Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP.
27. O’Melveny & Meyers LLP.
28. Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP.
29. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP.
30. Alston & Bird LLP.
31. Allen & Overy.
32. Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP.
33. Dewey & Leboeuf.
34. DLA Pipers.
35. Winston & Strawn LLP.

I have to confess that I'm not familiar with what a 60/40 system entails (would anyone care to explain?), but I would more or less invert your entire bidlist if it were a basic lottery system.

OP here. Sorry, I should have clarified. It pretty much means students choose 40% and the firms get to choose 60%.
are you suggesting i invert my list b/c my chances at the top of my list are unlikely?

Sorry for the delayed response. And no, not because they're unlikely. Realistically, if anybody at Fordham is in the running (and some students definitely are), I don't think top 6% vs. top 5% takes you out. I only say that because you put all of the firms that will be bid most frequently towards the bottom, with all of the firms that are less likely to be oversubscribed at the top. Again, though, I still don't fully understand the 60/40 system, and my observations may just be pointless ramblings because of that.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:50 am

Anonymous User wrote:I'm around median at NYU. I'm using my high bids on the popular firms where I have a puncher's chance at a callback. Bids 21-30 are mostly reaches with a lot of interview slots and non-tiny SA classes. I'm not sure I'm using the middle-to-late bids very effectively though, especially for the CA offices that don't have many interview slots. Any feedback is appreciated.



Good luck with OMM CC, though I'm not sure it's worth a bid. They have a fairly small small summer class (12) and only took one NYUer this past year (and he was not nearly median).

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby somewhatwayward » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:02 am

Anonymous User wrote:~top 20% CLS

1 Wachtell
2 Cravath
3 SulCrom
4 Skadden
5 Davis Polk
6 Simpson Thacher
7 Weil
8 Cleary
9 Kirkland Ellis
10 Covington
11 Latham
12 Debevoise
13 Paul Weiss
14 Gibson Dunn
15 Clifford Chance
16 Linklaters
17 Cahill
18 Sidley Austin
19 White and Case



I don't know what to do with the rest of my bids. I am worried that I do not have any safeties.


did you just make the V10 your top ten bids in order?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:18 am

Anonymous User wrote:About a ~3.15 at MVP, URM. Looking at NY and have a preference for lit. I know I'm not in a great position, but please let me know if my ordered list below is sensible. I tried to highly rank firms that have taken people with my GPA, firms with high offer rates at my school, and firms with large class sizes. Thanks.
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1. Mayer Brown LLP
Kaye Scholer LLP
Venable LLP
Chadbourne & Parke LLP
Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP
Baker & Hostetler LLP
Brown Rudnick Berlack Israels LLP
Shearman & Sterling LLP
Proskauer LLP
Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
Dewey & LeBoeuf LLP
Schulthe Roth & Zabel LLP
Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker LLP
Seward & Kissel LLP
Sidley Austin LLP
Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP
Clifford Chance US LLP
Jones Day
O'Melveny & [deleted] LLP
24. DLA Piper

(after this, it's all small/midsize secondary market firms and a few smaller NY firms with high bid success rates)


Does anyone have any helpful suggestions? Sorry to repost, just want to make sure it wasn't glossed over.
I'm definitely removing Sidley Austin (too selective) and Clifford Chance (tiny NY presence and mostly transactional).

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:35 pm

slightly below or at median at cornell. some WE and a strong UG.

all offices are NYC. too ambitious?

Day One:

1 Allen & Overy
2 Morrison & Foerster
3 White and Case
4 Kasowitz
5 Stroock & Stroock & Lavan
6 Fried, Frank
7 Paul Hastings
8 Schulte Roth & Zabel
9 Ropes NY
10 Debevoise & Plimpton
11 Proskauer
12 Latham & Watkins - NYC

Day Two:

1 Sidley NYC
2 Jones Day NY
3 Freshfields
4 Goodwin Procter NY
5 Shearman
6 Clifford Chance
7 Dechert
8 Wilkie
9 Cleary
10 Paul Weiss
11 Alston & Bird
12 O'Melveny
13 Wilson Sonsini
14 Hogan NYC

Day Three:

1 Weil Gotshal
2 Milbank
3 Linklaters NY (wants mandarin)
4 Cahill Gordon
5 Akin Gump NY
6 Chadbourne
7 Kramer Levin
8 Simpson Thatcher
9 V&E NY
10 Davis Polk
11 Hughes Hubbard
12 Quinn Emmanuel
13 Kelley Drye & Warren
14 Pillsbury NY

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:slightly below or at median at cornell. some WE and a strong UG.

all offices are NYC. too ambitious?

Day One:

1 Allen & Overy
2 Morrison & Foerster
3 White and Case
4 Kasowitz
5 Stroock & Stroock & Lavan
6 Fried, Frank
7 Paul Hastings
8 Schulte Roth & Zabel
9 Ropes NY
10 Debevoise & Plimpton
11 Proskauer
12 Latham & Watkins - NYC

Day Two:

1 Sidley NYC
2 Jones Day NY
3 Freshfields
4 Goodwin Procter NY
5 Shearman
6 Clifford Chance
7 Dechert
8 Wilkie
9 Cleary
10 Paul Weiss
11 Alston & Bird
12 O'Melveny
13 Wilson Sonsini
14 Hogan NYC

Day Three:

1 Weil Gotshal
2 Milbank
3 Linklaters NY (wants mandarin)
4 Cahill Gordon
5 Akin Gump NY
6 Chadbourne
7 Kramer Levin
8 Simpson Thatcher
9 V&E NY
10 Davis Polk
11 Hughes Hubbard
12 Quinn Emmanuel
13 Kelley Drye & Warren
14 Pillsbury NY

I don't know why you're bidding Sidley, Weil, Jones Day and MoFo so high. Also, Cahill, V&E, DPW, Quinn and Debevoise (also likely Paul Weiss) should be removed and replaced with some less selective firms. I would definitely look this all over again with an eye to bidding more conservatively.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:21 pm

Anonymous User wrote:School: Cornell
Gpa: ~3.5

we bid separately on each day of our OCI so here are my 4 days

all firms are NYC other than Perkins which is seattle (I have ties)

Day 1

1. White & Case
2. Schulte Roth & Zabel
3. Strook & Strook & Lavan
4. Proskauer Rose
5. Allen & Overy
6. Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP
7. Paul Hastings Janofsky & Walker LLP
8. Seward & Kissel LLP
9. Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
10. Winston & Strawn
11. Morrison & Foerester
12. Carter, Ledyard & Milburn LLP
13. Latham & Watkins LLP
14. Foley & Lardner LLP

Day 2

1. Brown Rudnick LLP
2. Crowell & Moring LLP
3. Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP
4. Willkie Farr & Ghallager
5. Bryan Cave LLP
6. Dechert LLP
7. Clifford chance
8. Alston & Bird LLP
9. Dewey & LeBoeuf
10. Sidley Austin LLP
11. Ropes & Gray LLP
12. Shearman & Sterling
13. O'Melveny & MyersJones Day
14. Hogan Lovells LLP
15. Hahn & Hessen LLP
16. Goodwin Procter LLP
17. Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati
18. Arnold & Porter LLP
19. Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton LLP

Day 3

1. Linklaters
2. Kaye Scholer LLP
3. Weil Gotshal & Manges LLP
4. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP
5. Milbank Tweed Hadley & McCloy
6. Chadbourne & Parke LLP
7. Kelley Drye & Warren LLP
8. Perkins Coie LLP
9. Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP
10. Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP
11. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP
12. Blank Rome LLP
13. Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft LLP
14. Vinson & Elkins LLP
15. Olshan Grundman Frome Rosenzweig & Wolosky
16. Reed Smith LLP
17. Fox Rothschild LLP
18. Sutherland LLP
19. Cooley LLP

Day 4

1. Curtis Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle
2. Nixon Peabody LLP
3. Hodgson Russ LLP
4. Skadden LLP

reposting -- anyone have any thoughts?

3.5 at Cornell is ~ top 40-35 I think...

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:10 pm

somewhatwayward wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:~top 20% CLS

1 Wachtell
2 Cravath
3 SulCrom
4 Skadden
5 Davis Polk
6 Simpson Thacher
7 Weil
8 Cleary
9 Kirkland Ellis
10 Covington
11 Latham
12 Debevoise
13 Paul Weiss
14 Gibson Dunn
15 Clifford Chance
16 Linklaters
17 Cahill
18 Sidley Austin
19 White and Case



I don't know what to do with the rest of my bids. I am worried that I do not have any safeties.


did you just make the V10 your top ten bids in order?


I should have been clearer. These are in no particular order. I used a matrix to figure out what firms I would like to join and it lined up fairly well with Vault. This is largely because I had a lot of weight on how firms performed in the downturn.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby GeePee » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
somewhatwayward wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:~top 20% CLS

1 Wachtell
2 Cravath
3 SulCrom
4 Skadden
5 Davis Polk
6 Simpson Thacher
7 Weil
8 Cleary
9 Kirkland Ellis
10 Covington
11 Latham
12 Debevoise
13 Paul Weiss
14 Gibson Dunn
15 Clifford Chance
16 Linklaters
17 Cahill
18 Sidley Austin
19 White and Case



I don't know what to do with the rest of my bids. I am worried that I do not have any safeties.


did you just make the V10 your top ten bids in order?


I should have been clearer. These are in no particular order. I used a matrix to figure out what firms I would like to join and it lined up fairly well with Vault. This is largely because I had a lot of weight on how firms performed in the downturn.

Any thoughts?

You don't have any safeties. I wouldn't bid any more reach firms. Figure out what you want out of a firm, and look for less selective firms that do that. It seems like you're leaning corporate (I'm assuming you're looking at all NY offices with that list).

Also, if your only stated criterion thus far is "firms that performed well in the downturn," then the list is a giant fail. Clifford Chance, Linklaters, White & Case, Cahill, Sidley, and Latham all laid off a huge number of associates during the downturn. I would start from scratch and rethink your goals and strategy. Top 20% is a good spot at CLS, don't waste it with a terrible bidlist.

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Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:16 pm

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What makes the list so terrible? I was under the impression that for top 20 at cls many of those firms would be safeties?

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby thesealocust » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:20 pm

There is no such thing as a safety firm. TLS really needs to stop using that word, it is meaningless in the context of applying to firm jobs.

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Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:25 pm

thesealocust wrote:There is no such thing as a safety firm. TLS really needs to stop using that word, it is meaningless in the context of applying to firm jobs.



Ok. Rephrasing. I thought top 20% grades at cls would be well within or above the grade range many of those firms would want/require?

Your point is accurate and well taken.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby thesealocust » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:There is no such thing as a safety firm. TLS really needs to stop using that word, it is meaningless in the context of applying to firm jobs.



Ok. Rephrasing. I thought top 20% grades at cls would be well within or above the grade range many of those firms would want/require?

Your point is accurate and well taken.


Yeah you'll be fine. I don't remember which list was yours, but if it's the one with huge firms up top you should probably re-organize it.

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Re: Post Your Bidlists Here for Critique, Consolation & Caveats

Postby sharkweek » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:36 pm

GeePee wrote:Also, if your only stated criterion thus far is "firms that performed well in the downturn," then the list is a giant fail. Clifford Chance, Linklaters, White & Case, Cahill, Sidley, and Latham all laid off a huge number of associates during the downturn. I would start from scratch and rethink your goals and strategy. Top 20% is a good spot at CLS, don't waste it with a terrible bidlist.


+1
http://lawshucks.com/2010/01/the-year-i ... offs-2009/

See chart for top 10 firms based on total layoffs in 2009




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