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Re: CCN WTF

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:27 am
by Anonymous User
thesealocust wrote:* bangs head against wall *

GPA. Average. AVERAGE.

There's almost no chance it will come up and you are not alone in having weird grades. They do not read deeply into it because everyone - including the people interviewing you - got crazy grades. People work hard and get Bs, it's not like they'll think you go t dumber.
Haha sorry to make your bang your head against the wall. We're all just scared. This is really helpful.

Re: CCN WTF

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:29 am
by Borhas
Anonymous User wrote:Just finished my first year at a New York CCN and ended up with a GPA that puts me in about the top 40%. Only problem is that my transcript contains both the lowest grade possible (bottom 10%-ish) and the highest grade possible (top 10%-ish), both from this past semester.

Mainly wondering if firms will look at this just as a relatively ok GPA, no questions asked, or if they will look at my whole transcript, as I am, and be like wtf. Am I more likely to be seen as the dumb kid who got lucky or the smart-enough kid who just [understandably, forgivably] dropped the ball on one exam (is there a stigma to be overcome from the bad grade)?

The other thing I'm wondering is how top 40% at a CCN stacks up at OCI - would this be considered part of a distinct "above median" strata, or am I basically starting with the same burden of proof that I'm awesome as everyone who was ever in the neighborhood of median? Personally, I don't think there's much of a difference in terms of intelligence/lawyering ability between myself and, say, a person slightly below median, but I'm not sure how firms look at these things.
how do you end up in top 40% with an F?

Re: CCN WTF

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:38 am
by BenJ
Borhas wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just finished my first year at a New York CCN and ended up with a GPA that puts me in about the top 40%. Only problem is that my transcript contains both the lowest grade possible (bottom 10%-ish) and the highest grade possible (top 10%-ish), both from this past semester.

Mainly wondering if firms will look at this just as a relatively ok GPA, no questions asked, or if they will look at my whole transcript, as I am, and be like wtf. Am I more likely to be seen as the dumb kid who got lucky or the smart-enough kid who just [understandably, forgivably] dropped the ball on one exam (is there a stigma to be overcome from the bad grade)?

The other thing I'm wondering is how top 40% at a CCN stacks up at OCI - would this be considered part of a distinct "above median" strata, or am I basically starting with the same burden of proof that I'm awesome as everyone who was ever in the neighborhood of median? Personally, I don't think there's much of a difference in terms of intelligence/lawyering ability between myself and, say, a person slightly below median, but I'm not sure how firms look at these things.
how do you end up in top 40% with an F?
Don't know about Columbia, but NYU does not give any grade lower than B- to 1Ls.

Re: CCN WTF

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:48 am
by Borhas
BenJ wrote: Don't know about Columbia, but NYU does not give any grade lower than B- to 1Ls.
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Re: CCN WTF

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:00 am
by Aston2412
Borhas wrote:
BenJ wrote: Don't know about Columbia, but NYU does not give any grade lower than B- to 1Ls.
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Do you blame them for trying to keep their suicide rate down?

Re: CCN WTF

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:02 am
by luthersloan
more sucides, less competition at OCI. So, there are upsdies and downsides really.

Re: CCN WTF

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:13 am
by Borhas
Aston2412 wrote:
Borhas wrote:
BenJ wrote: Don't know about Columbia, but NYU does not give any grade lower than B- to 1Ls.
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Do you blame them for trying to keep their suicide rate down?
no, mostly just jealous

Re: CCN WTF

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:14 am
by Aston2412
Those that would kill themselves weren't really competition at OCI anyway now were they?

Re: CCN WTF

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:20 am
by luthersloan
Hey, it is all lottery, so they are at least taking up interview slots.

Re: CCN WTF

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:40 am
by let/them/eat/cake
Anonymous User wrote:
Renzo wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not to hijack this thread, but related:

Top 10% at a T20 - All grades are A/A- except for a B+ in Torts and a B in LRW/LW2; I am not worried about torts but how can I realistically explain away LRW?
By saying, "I didn't do as well as I would have liked, but I've learned a lot from the feedback I received, and I feel like my writing has improved from XYZ things I did at my 1L summer job."
I also have a mediocre LRW grade, but am doing all research this summer and no legal writing so I can't use this. Would it be useful to mention that I'm taking advanced LRW in during 2L as well as participating in a clinic? Or is this bs considering how it hasn't happened yet..
and the interviewer is clairvoyant and knows this?

massage the truth buddy. maybe you are writing memos based on your research for the professor with whom you're working? it's OCI, be the best narrative you can be.