At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

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At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby yo! » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:54 pm

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Gideon Strumpet » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:22 pm

Leave it off.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby kalvano » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:27 pm

Gideon Strumpet wrote:Leave it off.


You really may offer the worst "advice" on this site.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby kaiser » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:29 pm

Gideon Strumpet wrote:Leave it off.


Horrible advice. You leave it off and the interviewer or recruiter will think the absolute worst (i.e. this kid might very well be last in his class). So instead of assuring the interviewer that he is right around top 1/3 (which is still a respectable mark), you leave open the possibility of someone forming a completely unwarranted and highly negative assumption. Sure, if your GPA is a 2.8, you leave it off, but of course you put down a nearly top 1/3 number. Can't believe you would advise him not to.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby thesealocust » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:32 pm

Leave it off.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Lawquacious » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:43 pm

:shock: That's a harsh curve for T25. 3.28 is top 1/3? I think that is median at my T50. I can see why schools or students would want some inflation, because 3.4 would sound a lot better on the resume (if that was top 1/3)...

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby kaiser » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:45 pm

Lawquacious wrote::shock: That's a harsh curve for T25. 3.28 is top 1/3? I think that is median at my T50. I can see why schools or students would want some inflation, because 3.4 would sound a lot better on the resume (if that was top 1/3)...


All that matters is the rank, not the meaningless GPA figure. A 3.3 at one school could be the same as a 3.0 from another. That number is meaningless. But his nearly top 1/3 rank seems like something to leave on, even if the GPA isn't next to it.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:04 am

1) why not include only your class rank? employer can ask what the GPA is during the interview. i concur w/ kaiser, rank matters!
2) if you don't mind, what is the curve at your school - 3.0?

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Vronsky » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:14 am

" GPA: 3.28 (Top 35%) "

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Anonymous Loser » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:18 am

What a ridiculous thread.

OP, when I saw the thread title (which does not contain your GPA or ranking) I assumed that you must be below median. Employers will think the same thing.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby lawgod » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:24 am

You always put it on, unless you are dead last in the class, since that is what no GPA means.
Besides, why are you shy about top third of the class? 2/3 of your peers are dying to be there.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:56 am

Sorry if I appear to be hijacking your thread but I didn't want to start a new one.

I am at a T2 and my gpa is 3.0 rank is bottom 30%ish..leave it off?

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Vronsky » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:05 am

Anonymous User wrote:Sorry if I appear to be hijacking your thread but I didn't want to start a new one.

I am at a T2 and my gpa is 3.0 rank is bottom 30%ish..leave it off?


I would just put GPA: 3.0, and leave off the bottom 30ish

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby BrianGriffintheDog » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:07 am

Leave out your GPA if it's below 3.7. Leave out your rank if it's below top 10%.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Anonymous Loser » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:13 am

BrianGriffintheDog wrote:Leave out your GPA if it's below 3.7. Leave out your rank if it's below top 10%.


*has a 3.69 GPA*

*is ranked #26 in a class of 250*

*is unemployed, because prospective employers throw resume in the trash assuming poor grades*

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby seatown12 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:28 am

Anonymous Loser wrote:
BrianGriffintheDog wrote:Leave out your GPA if it's below 3.7. Leave out your rank if it's below top 10%.


*has a 3.69 GPA*

*is ranked #26 in a class of 250*

*is unemployed, because prospective employers throw resume in the trash assuming poor grades*

*is bad at sarcasm*

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Gideon Strumpet » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:55 am

kaiser wrote:Horrible advice. You leave it off and the interviewer or recruiter will think the absolute worst (i.e. this kid might very well be last in his class). So instead of assuring the interviewer that he is right around top 1/3 (which is still a respectable mark), you leave open the possibility of someone forming a completely unwarranted and highly negative assumption. Sure, if your GPA is a 2.8, you leave it off, but of course you put down a nearly top 1/3 number. Can't believe you would advise him not to.

FTFY

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Black-Blue » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:38 am

People who leave off rank are below median. Since the average rank of people below median is top 75%, that's the assumption when you leave off your rank.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby theantiscalia » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:42 am

That is a decent GPA. Put it on. As everybody above has said, if you don't, recruiters will assume the worst.

Many firms have a Top 1/3 cutoff. You're close enough, so leave it on... if you don't put it on, they'll assume you were below the Top 1/3, and throw your resume in the trash.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:50 am

I've talked people from recruiting at both Jones Day (she worked there in the past) and Bryan Cave (works there presently) both have advised me to include a GPA, regardless of what it is.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby goodolgil » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:52 am

Well, makes sense for them to want it regardless--they can just trash all the resumes that don't meet their cut-off. Doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea to list a 2.8.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:07 am

I believe the Bryan Cave recruiter's intonation was that she would be pissed if she had to go to the trouble to find it. So any shot one would have gained by leaving it off would be screwed by requiring them to put in the extra effort.

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby yo! » Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:46 am

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby yo! » Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:51 am

Anonymous User wrote:1) why not include only your class rank? employer can ask what the GPA is during the interview. i concur w/ kaiser, rank matters!
2) if you don't mind, what is the curve at your school - 3.0?


Median this semester was 3.05

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Re: At which point do you leave your GPA/rank off the resume?

Postby blahblewblah » Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:53 am

Do you think the 2% will make a difference?




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