Anonymous User wrote:
Hey all thanks for the tips/ advice they've definitely useful. Just had two quick questions if anyone can help.
First, for us people below median it seems like mass mailing is necessary. What exactly should we do and expect from this? Do you send semi-targeted letters to a bunch of NYC firms and 2ndary firms that you don't bid on before August and they might contact you for emails outside of OCI?
Also secondly, what exactly constitutes good interviewing or do any of you have tips for standing out from the rest of the median/ below median students? Thanks for the help!
1) They might contact you before OCI. They might do it after if they miss their hiring targets. NYC firms are probably your best bet in that department as it costs them almost nothing to bring in more CLS or NYU students if they don't get the class size they want. They might not contact you at all.
Another good reason to do it is that it makes you a little hungrier knowing you are going all out to find a job. OCS tries to instill a laid back, you'll be fine mentality that is just not what below median students need ITE.
Good interviewing is really fucking hard to do because the window is so short and the conversations basically follow the same pattern- they ask you about stuff on your resume, you give them your speech about what you did during 1L summer/before law school, they ask you if you have any questions about the firm, you ask 2-3 generic questions, you shoot the shit for a while. You'll see what I mean when you do a few interviews and realize it's not intimidating- it's just sort of a burden. Often they'll ask you about the first thing on your resume which probably means they haven't read it.
That said, there are a few people who are just naturally likeable and sociable and probably get callbacks way above their grades. I happen to think this isn't really something you can develop in the space of a few months or even a year, and has a lot to do with appearance, nonverbal communication, etc.
I would say I had maybe 7-8 really good conversations out of the 30 interviews I did. These really went outside the boundaries of the typical paradigm I mentioned above. I only got 4 callbacks but all of these callbacks came from the really good conversations. What helped was being the best version of myself, not trying to act like the "median law student" personality. To put it another way, I was actively trying to get the callback as opposed to not trying to screw everything up. When this happens, you'll click with some attorneys and won't with others. But if your grades wouldn't be high enough to get you a callback anyway, what do you have to lose?