Anonymous User wrote:A Latham NY alternate just popped up for me, it had been "not invited" until now. One of the 3.59ers.
Anyone know how many rooms Latham NY is doing?
Cavalier wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anyone happen to know the lowest GPA that Cravath has given a callback to in recent years? I got a preselect with them but I'm thinking with my sub 3.6 GPA I'd be better off declining, even if it meant ending up with an alternate instead (I have slightly less than 20 preselects but over a dozen alternates, so I think I'd still end up with the max interviews). Thoughts?
Last year I believe everyone they called back had north of a 3.8.
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard from any of the following:
Baker Donelson ATL
DLA Piper SD
Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton ATL
Steptoe & Johnson Phoenix
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:shearmans out
Damn u shearman
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:If a v50 firm gives you a callback, and your gpa is way below median, are they really interested in hiring you?
Yes. They are.
I've spoken with a number of hiring partners and recruiting committee members at many firms. A resounding chorus is that they hate using proxies such as law school and grades for hiring decisions.
All else being equal, they want smart and hard working people, but they know that grades and school are a very flawed proxy for those attributes.
School allegiance comes in both because of perceived quality/reputation but also because partners want to hire from the schools they went to, so that one can be harder to budge.
But on grades, it's quite rare that firms are actually making fine distinctions based on them, and it definitely happens that exceptions slip through. It's very hard for something on your resume or a personal interaction in a 20 minute interview everyone prepares for the same way to impress somebody, but if it does, you'll get the nod over somebody with the grades. And callbacks are quite expensive for the firm: An our of market firm offering a callback is pouring a lot of resources into you between your costs and the time attorneys give up to do interviews. They're very serious about them.
To throw a bit of data at you, last year Dean Donovan told us explicitly that median/average GPAs for those who got offers from a firm are often lower than for those who got callbacks.
Grades will matter at the callback stage because the thumbs up or thumbs down will come as people look at your interview reports + resume, but they won't matter nearly as much and you have every chance of getting hired once you have a CB.
Anonymous User wrote:So basically if you get a lottery interview and the firm typically has a GPA average around your GPA it is possible that you fell through the cracks that they didn't actively not want you and therefore should treat it as a good chance at a callback?
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