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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby ndirish2010 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:People who think there is going to be a turn around are fooling themselves. Things are absurdly bad.


LOL. There already has been a turnaround. Absurdly bad was two years ago. This is just bad.


Check the 2009 Thread. This is way worse than it was then.


Sorry, anon, the numbers don't back you up.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:16 pm

Can anyone speak to how likely lottery interviews are to be succesful in terms of landing callbacks. Speaking as someone who bid a very "safe" top 15 in terms of only bidding firms that had average GPAs near mine it would be very helpful.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Can anyone speak to how likely lottery interviews are to be succesful in terms of landing callbacks. Speaking as someone who bid a very "safe" top 15 in terms of only bidding firms that had average GPAs near mine it would be very helpful.


I think the conventional wisdom is that you could always wow them in your screening interview, and if you're in the GPA range that's even more true, but that generally if someone doesn't pre-select you it's for a reason and your odds in that room are much, much lower than where you were pre-selected.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby mths » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Not at UVA student. This seems like a NYC bloodbath. Should I change some of my NYC bids to DC??? EEK!

absolutely

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby barry » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:27 pm

mths wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not at UVA student. This seems like a NYC bloodbath. Should I change some of my NYC bids to DC??? EEK!

absolutely


If ur school has a lottery system don't worry, it's just UVA has a preselect system so tons of interviews go to LR ppl

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:28 pm

mths wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not at UVA student. This seems like a NYC bloodbath. Should I change some of my NYC bids to DC??? EEK!

absolutely


Whatever you do, just wait until UVA career services has told students that all of the pre-selects have been entered
(this has not happened yet)

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby badwithpseudonyms » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:29 pm

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:29 pm

barry wrote:
mths wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not at UVA student. This seems like a NYC bloodbath. Should I change some of my NYC bids to DC??? EEK!

absolutely


If ur school has a lottery system don't worry, it's just UVA has a preselect system so tons of interviews go to LR ppl


what? if nyc is overbid then its overbid regardless. even with a lottery system you'll get less interviews if you bid an overbid market. it shouldn't change that much. you're not guaranteed x interviews.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby d34d9823 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:32 pm

Helmholtz epic ninja edit.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby StanleyF » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
mths wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not at UVA student. This seems like a NYC bloodbath. Should I change some of my NYC bids to DC??? EEK!

absolutely


Whatever you do, just wait until UVA career services has told students that all of the pre-selects have been entered
(this has not happened yet)

+1

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:33 pm

mths wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not at UVA student. This seems like a NYC bloodbath. Should I change some of my NYC bids to DC??? EEK!

absolutely


My goodness. After this, I bet Donovan and OCS is just going to hold back entering any preselects/alternates in at all until everything is in since folks are so prone to overreacting. At least that way we would know whether things are bad or not.
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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby bjsesq » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:33 pm

d34dluk3 wrote:Helmholtz epic ninja edit.


AWESOME

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
barry wrote:
mths wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not at UVA student. This seems like a NYC bloodbath. Should I change some of my NYC bids to DC??? EEK!

absolutely


If ur school has a lottery system don't worry, it's just UVA has a preselect system so tons of interviews go to LR ppl


what? if nyc is overbid then its overbid regardless. even with a lottery system you'll get less interviews if you bid an overbid market. it shouldn't change that much. you're not guaranteed x interviews.

Cornell did perfectly fine with NYC lottery - around the same as last OCI, maybe slightly higher when taking open slots into account.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:37 pm

Pre-Select sucks, uva should get rid of it...at least give us the chance to get in a freaking room and prove something

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby barry » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:44 pm

If ur school has a lottery system don't worry, it's just UVA has a preselect system so tons of interviews go to LR ppl[/quote]

what? if nyc is overbid then its overbid regardless. even with a lottery system you'll get less interviews if you bid an overbid market. it shouldn't change that much. you're not guaranteed x interviews.[/quote]


Lottery puts everyone on even footing so there is little chance that vast swaths of the class will be fucked unlike UVA hth

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:46 pm

Cravath preselect just appeared.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Cravath preselect just appeared.

I hope they are sending someone other than James C. Vardell, III.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:48 pm

barry wrote:If ur school has a lottery system don't worry, it's just UVA has a preselect system so tons of interviews go to LR ppl


what? if nyc is overbid then its overbid regardless. even with a lottery system you'll get less interviews if you bid an overbid market. it shouldn't change that much. you're not guaranteed x interviews.[/quote]


Lottery puts everyone on even footing so there is little chance that vast swaths of the class will be fucked unlike UVA hth[/quote]

Right...equal footing per firm. But if NY firms average more bids per interview slot than DC you're gonna end up with less. You guys are also forgetting or overlooking the fact that UVA DOES have a lottery system, 30% of spots. Furthermore, the lottery system will be significantly more plentiful this year because of the 20 cap. Many people won't be participating in the lottery at all because of it.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:54 pm

Clifford Chance NYC preselect just popped up for me. Top 15%

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:54 pm

Sheppard Mullin DC just popped up for me.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:55 pm

Non-UVA student here. At a school that uses a lottery system so could someone please explain to me whether receiving an alternate means you are an alternate to interview with that firm if someone drops out, or if that firm was an alternate on your list and you got an interview with them because you didn't receive all of your pre-selects. Thanks, and sorry for the ignorance.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby oneforship » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Non-UVA student here. At a school that uses a lottery system so could someone please explain to me whether receiving an alternate means you are an alternate to interview with that firm if someone drops out, or if that firm was an alternate on your list and you got an interview with them because you didn't receive all of your pre-selects. Thanks, and sorry for the ignorance.


The former. If a preselect declines to take the interview, it gets given to an alternate, chosen by the firm.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:57 pm

Mayer Brown Alternate just appeared.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby bgdddymtty » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:59 pm

I stand (slightly) corrected. In this thread, posters have noted receiving preselects/alternates from 143 out of the 587 offices that are coming to OGI. They are as follows (NYC unless otherwise indicated):

Akin Gump
Akin Gump (DC)
Akin Gump (Houston)
Allen & Overy
Alston & Bird
Alston & Bird (Atlanta)
Alston & Bird (Dallas)
Andrews & Kurth (Dallas)
Andrews & Kurth (Houston)
Arent Fox (DC)
Arnall Golden (Atlanta)
Arnold & Porter (DC)
Baker & McKenzie
Baker Botts (Austin)
Baker Botts (Dallas)
Baker Botts (DC)
Baker Botts (Houston)
Baker Hostetler (DC)
Balch Bingham (Birmingham)
Bracewell & Giuliani
Bradley Arant (Birmingham)
Boies Schiller
Brooks Pierce (Greensboro)
Brown Rudnick
Cadwalader
Cadwalader (Charlotte)
Cadwalader (DC)
Cahill Gordon
Caplin & Drysdale
Caplin & Drysdale (DC)
Carrington Coleman (Dallas)
Christian & Barton (Richmond)
Cleary
Cleary (DC)
Clifford Chance
Cooley
Covington
Cravath
Crowell & Moring (DC)
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost
Davis Polk
Davis Wright Tremaine
Dechert
Dechert (Charlotte)
Dechert (DC)
Dechert (Philadelphia)
Dewey & LeBoeuf
Dewey & LeBoeuf (DC)
Dickstein Shapiro (DC)
DPW
Drinker Biddle (DC)
Epstein Becker Green (Atlanta)
Epstein Becker Green (DC)
Exxon Mobil
Foley Hoag (Boston)
Freshfields
Fried Frank
Fulbright & Jaworski (Dallas)
Fulbright & Jaworski (DC)
Gibson Dunn
Gibson Dunn (DC)
Gibson Dunn (LA)
Goodwin Procter (Boston)
Goodwin Procter (DC)
Greenebaum (Lexington, KY)
Greenebaum (Louisville)
Haynes & Boone (Dallas)
Hogan Lovells (DC)
Hollingsworth (DC)
Hughes Hubbard (DC)
Hunton & Williams (Richmond)
Jackson Walker (Dallas)
Jenner & Block (Chicago)
Jones Day
Jones Day (Atlanta)
Jones Day (Boston)
Jones Day (Dallas)
Jones Day (DC)
K&L Gates
K&L Gates (Charlotte)
K&L Gates (Dallas)
K&L Gates (DC)
K&L Gates (Seattle)
Kasowitz
Katten Muchin
Keller Heckman (DC)
King & Spalding
King & Spalding (DC)
Kirkland & Ellis
Kirkland & Ellis (Chicago)
Kirkland & Ellis (DC)
Linklaters
Locke Lord (Dallas)
Locke Lord (Houston)
Mayer Brown
McDermott, Will & Emery (DC)
McKenna Long (Atlanta)
Milbank Tweed
Milbank Tweed (DC)
Miller & Martin (Atlanta)
Mintz Levin (Boston)
Morgan Lewis (SF)
Morrison & Foerster (DC)
Nixon Peabody (DC)
Orrick (DC)
Patton Boggs (DC)
Paul Hastings
Paul Hastings (Atlanta)
Paul Weiss
Pillsbury Winthrop
Powers Pyles (DC)
Proskauer Rose
Proskauer Rose (LA)
Quinn Emanuel
Robinson Bradshaw (Charlotte)
Ropes Gray
Schulte Roth
Seward & Kissel
Seward & Kissel (DC)
Shearman & Sterling (DC)
Sheppard Mullin (DC)
Sherman & Howard (Denver)
Sidley Austin
Sidley Austin (Chicago)
Sidley Austin (DC)
Simpson Thacher
Simpson Thacher (DC)
Skadden
Skadden (DC)
STB
Troutman (Atlanta)
Venable (DC)
Vinson & Elkins (Dallas)
Vinson & Elkins (DC)
Vinson & Elkins (Houston)
Watt Tieder (McLean, VA)
White & Case
Wiley Rein (DC)
Wilkie Farr
Williams & Connolly (DC)
Williams Mullin (Richnond)
WilmerHale
WilmerHale (DC)

Obviously, there are other offices that might be implied by these results if we know that a given firm should be releasing its invitations for all of its offices at the same time. But this is what we know for sure right now. Away from the ledges, people.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby bertstare » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:02 pm

bgdddymtty wrote:I stand (slightly) corrected. In this thread, posters have noted receiving preselects/alternates from 143 out of the 587 offices that are coming to OGI. They are as follows (NYC unless otherwise indicated):

Akin Gump
Akin Gump (DC)
Akin Gump (Houston)
Allen & Overy
Alston & Bird
Alston & Bird (Atlanta)
Alston & Bird (Dallas)
Andrews & Kurth (Dallas)
Andrews & Kurth (Houston)
Arent Fox (DC)
Arnall Golden (Atlanta)
Arnold & Porter (DC)
Baker & McKenzie
Baker Botts (Austin)
Baker Botts (Dallas)
Baker Botts (DC)
Baker Botts (Houston)
Baker Hostetler (DC)
Balch Bingham (Birmingham)
Bracewell & Giuliani
Bradley Arant (Birmingham)
Boies Schiller
Brooks Pierce (Greensboro)
Brown Rudnick
Cadwalader
Cadwalader (Charlotte)
Cadwalader (DC)
Cahill Gordon
Caplin & Drysdale
Caplin & Drysdale (DC)
Carrington Coleman (Dallas)
Christian & Barton (Richmond)
Cleary
Cleary (DC)
Clifford Chance
Cooley
Covington
Cravath
Crowell & Moring (DC)
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost
Davis Polk
Davis Wright Tremaine
Dechert
Dechert (Charlotte)
Dechert (DC)
Dechert (Philadelphia)
Dewey & LeBoeuf
Dewey & LeBoeuf (DC)
Dickstein Shapiro (DC)
DPW
Drinker Biddle (DC)
Epstein Becker Green (Atlanta)
Epstein Becker Green (DC)
Exxon Mobil
Foley Hoag (Boston)
Freshfields
Fried Frank
Fulbright & Jaworski (Dallas)
Fulbright & Jaworski (DC)
Gibson Dunn
Gibson Dunn (DC)
Gibson Dunn (LA)
Goodwin Procter (Boston)
Goodwin Procter (DC)
Greenebaum (Lexington, KY)
Greenebaum (Louisville)
Haynes & Boone (Dallas)
Hogan Lovells (DC)
Hollingsworth (DC)
Hughes Hubbard (DC)
Hunton & Williams (Richmond)
Jackson Walker (Dallas)
Jenner & Block (Chicago)
Jones Day
Jones Day (Atlanta)
Jones Day (Boston)
Jones Day (Dallas)
Jones Day (DC)
K&L Gates
K&L Gates (Charlotte)
K&L Gates (Dallas)
K&L Gates (DC)
K&L Gates (Seattle)
Kasowitz
Katten Muchin
Keller Heckman (DC)
King & Spalding
King & Spalding (DC)
Kirkland & Ellis
Kirkland & Ellis (Chicago)
Kirkland & Ellis (DC)
Linklaters
Locke Lord (Dallas)
Locke Lord (Houston)
Mayer Brown
McDermott, Will & Emery (DC)
McKenna Long (Atlanta)
Milbank Tweed
Milbank Tweed (DC)
Miller & Martin (Atlanta)
Mintz Levin (Boston)
Morgan Lewis (SF)
Morrison & Foerster (DC)
Nixon Peabody (DC)
Orrick (DC)
Patton Boggs (DC)
Paul Hastings
Paul Hastings (Atlanta)
Paul Weiss
Pillsbury Winthrop
Powers Pyles (DC)
Proskauer Rose
Proskauer Rose (LA)
Quinn Emanuel
Robinson Bradshaw (Charlotte)
Ropes Gray
Schulte Roth
Seward & Kissel
Seward & Kissel (DC)
Shearman & Sterling (DC)
Sheppard Mullin (DC)
Sherman & Howard (Denver)
Sidley Austin
Sidley Austin (Chicago)
Sidley Austin (DC)
Simpson Thacher
Simpson Thacher (DC)
Skadden
Skadden (DC)
STB
Troutman (Atlanta)
Venable (DC)
Vinson & Elkins (Dallas)
Vinson & Elkins (DC)
Vinson & Elkins (Houston)
Watt Tieder (McLean, VA)
White & Case
Wiley Rein (DC)
Wilkie Farr
Williams & Connolly (DC)
Williams Mullin (Richnond)
WilmerHale
WilmerHale (DC)

Obviously, there are other offices that might be implied by these results if we know that a given firm should be releasing its invitations for all of its offices at the same time. But this is what we know for sure right now. Away from the ledges, people.


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