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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Cavalier » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:05 pm

I'd definitely wait until things are finalized before freaking out and declaring that 0Ls shouldn't attend UVA. Remember that most students in the class of 2012 who sought big law were successful, and that things will probably only improve from here on out (barring a double dip and/or a default). The reports here are certainly concerning, and I'd recommend prospective students closely follow this thread to see how it all unfolds, but it's far too early to give up.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Dear 0Ls,

Don't go to UVa.

KTHNX.


Dear 0Ls,

If you go to UVa, work really hard to be top of your class. If you're lower than that, life won't be a magic carpet ride. Given the economy, not too surprising.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:12 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Preselects and alternates are still rolling in. I just had a "not invited" turn into a "preselect" before my eyes. Usually I'm all about the doomsday theories (and this morning I was seriously contemplating the unacceptable state of my life), but I don't think we should freak out until at least tomorrow morning.


Firm/market?


I was the anonymous poster from above. Gibson Dunn DC

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:13 pm

Is this the death-knell for the "BID NYC" mantra?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:13 pm

This can't be right. If it is, I have no idea what the reason is.

It can't be because of the default/debt concerns. These interview rooms were booked months ago and even if they weren't hiring a single person, they would still be interviewing. They pay too much.

Has to be either the system or just a MASSIVE feast/famine range which is possible.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Preselects and alternates are still rolling in. I just had a "not invited" turn into a "preselect" before my eyes. Usually I'm all about the doomsday theories (and this morning I was seriously contemplating the unacceptable state of my life), but I don't think we should freak out until at least tomorrow morning.


Firm/market?


I was the anonymous poster from above. Gibson Dunn DC


I've had a Gibson Dunn DC preselect since first thing this morning, so this goes to show that at least some results are still forthcoming.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:This can't be right. If it is, I have no idea what the reason is.

It can't be because of the default/debt concerns. These interview rooms were booked months ago and even if they weren't hiring a single person, they would still be interviewing. They pay too much.

Has to be either the system or just a MASSIVE feast/famine range which is possible.


Seems like both is happening at least to some extent. But like others have said, the famine will decrease once the feasters make their selections.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is this the death-knell for the "BID NYC" mantra?


Honestly, I'm getting more and more scared about this exact thing after talking with classmates at my top 10. Seems like everybody who wants an easier shot at the monies and prestiges (read: pretty much everybody) is flocking to NYC. Terrified about bid results.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby dailygrind » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:16 pm

desertlaw wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Seems WE was a very big factor this year.


Ya, but there are people in top 1/4 with WE that got less than 3 pre-selects in NYC.


What? The worst one I saw was top 1/4 with 3 preselects and 8 alternates, and I saw no mention of WE. From how quickly the top of of the class is shedding their NYC, there's reason to believe that s/he'll be snagging a decent chunk of those.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:17 pm

so when the people shed their NYC bids, what happens exactly? Does simplicity update again?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:19 pm

Anybody around or below median have anything to report?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:20 pm

Anecdotally, I've heard anywhere from 0 to 7 for friends that have 3.0-3.2

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:21 pm

edit: nvm, shouldn't freak until everything is settled, but it seems like nothing like this happened last year
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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby wackjickham » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:24 pm

Or it could be, oh I don't know, related to one of those five emails career services has sent in the past 12 hours telling us not to freak out anonymously on the internet?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:26 pm

3.20-3.25 GPA
2 years WE (nothing spectacular but not trivial either)
bid 90% NYC firms and all the ones with numbers in my range
no NYC ties
0 preselect, 0 alternates

holy shit

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:28 pm

Are we ready to admit that 1L summer is important and you need ties to NYC?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:3.20-3.25 GPA
2 years WE (nothing spectacular but not trivial either)
bid 90% NYC firms and all the ones with numbers in my range
no NYC ties
0 preselect, 0 alternates

holy shit


same boat only 100% NYC and no WE

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby PM61 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:28 pm

Could someone who is freaking out (and has read the e-mails from career services re: continued entry of pre-selects/alternates) please explain to me why they are freaking out?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:29 pm

less than median gpa.
less than one year we.
three dc preselects.
zero alternates.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby bgdddymtty » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:30 pm

PM61 wrote:Could someone who is freaking out (and has read the e-mails from career services re: continued entry of pre-selects/alternates) please explain to me why they are freaking out?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:seriously the situation is pretty f***ed, I feel like fordham kids are getting more interviews than us

edit: i used to think people made too big a deal about the preselect system but knowing that at any other T14 I would be guaranteed a certain amount of interviews, why the hell would you go to UVA?


Because lottery interviews are, for the most part, a complete waste of time. If you get a preselect then you have a realistic chance at getting hired. You are no longer in a situation where you would be rejected off of grades/resume alone.
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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby wackjickham » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:32 pm

PM61 wrote:Could someone who is freaking out (and has read the e-mails from career services re: continued entry of pre-selects/alternates) please explain to me why they are freaking out?


What a kerfuffle in here.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:33 pm

Way below median

4 Preselects
2 Alternates

Actually pretty lucky I think

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Dear 0Ls,

Don't go to UVa.

KTHNX.


Dear 0Ls,

If you go to UVa, work really hard to be top of your class. If you're lower than that, life won't be a magic carpet ride. Given the economy, not too surprising.


Funny.

In any case, I don't think the issue is a pre-conceived notion that there would be a magic carpet ride to the top. Everyone knows that it's hard out there. It's that people who seemingly got decent grades and appear to have bid appropriately on NYC are doing way below expectations.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby showNprove » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:3.20-3.25 GPA
2 years WE (nothing spectacular but not trivial either)
bid 90% NYC firms and all the ones with numbers in my range
no NYC ties
0 preselect, 0 alternates

holy shit


same boat only 100% NYC and no WE

Wow. Just, wow.




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