UVa OGI 2011 thread

(On Campus Interviews, Summer Associate positions, Firm Reviews, Tips, ...)
Forum rules
Anonymous Posting

Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, etc. You may anonymously respond on topic to these threads. Unacceptable uses include: harassing another user, joking around, testing the feature, or other things that are more appropriate in the lounge.

Failure to follow these rules will get you outed, warned, or banned.
User avatar
dgouzoul
Posts: 244
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:24 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby dgouzoul » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:06 pm

Image
Last edited by dgouzoul on Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:57 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
thesealocust
Posts: 8448
Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:50 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby thesealocust » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:54 am

(1) That image is annoyingly large

(2) ?

uvahooo
Posts: 163
Joined: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:28 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby uvahooo » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:52 am

thesealocust wrote:(1) That image is annoyingly large

(2) ?


+1 to this

btw, i like your new tar.

User avatar
bgdddymtty
Posts: 697
Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:59 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby bgdddymtty » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:01 am

dgouzoul wrote:Image
Well played, sir.

User avatar
bertstare
Posts: 24
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:29 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby bertstare » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:18 pm

dgouzoul wrote:Image


--ImageRemoved--

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:13 pm

quite certain this is a dumb question -- when recruiters look over resumes for preselects, do they only look at the students that put them on their lottery list, or beyond that? Thanks.

User avatar
bgdddymtty
Posts: 697
Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:59 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby bgdddymtty » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:quite certain this is a dumb question -- when recruiters look over resumes for preselects, do they only look at the students that put them on their lottery list, or beyond that? Thanks.
Only the students that put them on their lottery lists.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:31 pm

bgdddymtty wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:quite certain this is a dumb question -- when recruiters look over resumes for preselects, do they only look at the students that put them on their lottery list, or beyond that? Thanks.
Only the students that put them on their lottery lists.


Anon poster here. Weird. That's what I thought, but then I looked at the OGI handbook and I saw that only 50 or so ppl bid on Skadden NY, which I thought was way too low for them to only focus on the people that bid, which led me to believe they look beyond that.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
bgdddymtty wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:quite certain this is a dumb question -- when recruiters look over resumes for preselects, do they only look at the students that put them on their lottery list, or beyond that? Thanks.
Only the students that put them on their lottery lists.


Anon poster here. Weird. That's what I thought, but then I looked at the OGI handbook and I saw that only 50 or so ppl bid on Skadden NY, which I thought was way too low for them to only focus on the people that bid, which led me to believe they look beyond that.


What in the world are you talking about?

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
bgdddymtty wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:quite certain this is a dumb question -- when recruiters look over resumes for preselects, do they only look at the students that put them on their lottery list, or beyond that? Thanks.
Only the students that put them on their lottery lists.


Anon poster here. Weird. That's what I thought, but then I looked at the OGI handbook and I saw that only 50 or so ppl bid on Skadden NY, which I thought was way too low for them to only focus on the people that bid, which led me to believe they look beyond that.


What in the world are you talking about?


Anon poster here. I'm asking whether employers in pre-selecting individuals for interviews only look at the people that bid on the them to determine their preselects. If you look at pg. 25 of the Bid Memo that CSO sent out, it says that 54 students submitted bids and 36 received interview invitations for Skadden NY. This struck me and led me to believe that Skadden would look beyond the mere 54 students that bid on them to determine their interview schedule (because I thought, if preselects are limited to only the students that bid, a lot more students than just 54 would bid on Skadden NY). Hope that makes sense.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:21 pm

Why would Skadden want to interview students that didn't bid on them? You make no sense. If that was the case every firm would just preselect the top 20 GPAs at the school and that's it.

WTF.

User avatar
5ky
Posts: 6400
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:10 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby 5ky » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anon poster here. I'm asking whether employers in pre-selecting individuals for interviews only look at the people that bid on the them to determine their preselects. If you look at pg. 25 of the Bid Memo that CSO sent out, it says that 54 students submitted bids and 36 received interview invitations for Skadden NY. This struck me and led me to believe that Skadden would look beyond the mere 54 students that bid on them to determine their interview schedule (because I thought, if preselects are limited to only the students that bid, a lot more students than just 54 would bid on Skadden NY). Hope that makes sense.


Yes, only if you bid on them. It's really not that unusual -- Paul Weiss, Cravath, Shearman, STB all had similar bid numbers. Really, not that many people bid on NY firms (compared to DC, e.g.), and fewer people will bid on top firms since the likelihood of being pre-selected is smaller.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:37 pm

5ky wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anon poster here. I'm asking whether employers in pre-selecting individuals for interviews only look at the people that bid on the them to determine their preselects. If you look at pg. 25 of the Bid Memo that CSO sent out, it says that 54 students submitted bids and 36 received interview invitations for Skadden NY. This struck me and led me to believe that Skadden would look beyond the mere 54 students that bid on them to determine their interview schedule (because I thought, if preselects are limited to only the students that bid, a lot more students than just 54 would bid on Skadden NY). Hope that makes sense.


Yes, only if you bid on them. It's really not that unusual -- Paul Weiss, Cravath, Shearman, STB all had similar bid numbers. Really, not that many people bid on NY firms (compared to DC, e.g.), and fewer people will bid on top firms since the likelihood of being pre-selected is smaller.


The likelihood of getting preselected is actually higher. Much, much, much higher in some situations. However, the likelihood of getting hired is much lower.

User avatar
5ky
Posts: 6400
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:10 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby 5ky » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
5ky wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anon poster here. I'm asking whether employers in pre-selecting individuals for interviews only look at the people that bid on the them to determine their preselects. If you look at pg. 25 of the Bid Memo that CSO sent out, it says that 54 students submitted bids and 36 received interview invitations for Skadden NY. This struck me and led me to believe that Skadden would look beyond the mere 54 students that bid on them to determine their interview schedule (because I thought, if preselects are limited to only the students that bid, a lot more students than just 54 would bid on Skadden NY). Hope that makes sense.


Yes, only if you bid on them. It's really not that unusual -- Paul Weiss, Cravath, Shearman, STB all had similar bid numbers. Really, not that many people bid on NY firms (compared to DC, e.g.), and fewer people will bid on top firms since the likelihood of being pre-selected is smaller.


The likelihood of getting preselected is actually higher. Much, much, much higher in some situations. However, the likelihood of getting hired is much lower.


Sure, if you're going by pure bid to preselect ratio, but you knew that's not what I meant. Plus, even with the much higher number of bids, a person with a 3.15 probably had a much better chance of getting preselected by a Brown Rudnick than by Skadden or STB. So given the grade distribution, fewer students will be bidding on those higher level firms.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:52 pm

5ky wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anon poster here. I'm asking whether employers in pre-selecting individuals for interviews only look at the people that bid on the them to determine their preselects. If you look at pg. 25 of the Bid Memo that CSO sent out, it says that 54 students submitted bids and 36 received interview invitations for Skadden NY. This struck me and led me to believe that Skadden would look beyond the mere 54 students that bid on them to determine their interview schedule (because I thought, if preselects are limited to only the students that bid, a lot more students than just 54 would bid on Skadden NY). Hope that makes sense.


Yes, only if you bid on them. It's really not that unusual -- Paul Weiss, Cravath, Shearman, STB all had similar bid numbers. Really, not that many people bid on NY firms (compared to DC, e.g.), and fewer people will bid on top firms since the likelihood of being pre-selected is smaller.


Many thanks. That clears thinks up and is somewhat of a relief.

oneforship
Posts: 1004
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:17 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby oneforship » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:45 am

6 days.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:15 pm

How many preselects is everyone expecting?

I'm expecting 15-20 w/ top 25% grades. Bid on DC, Chi, NYC. Mainly NYC.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How many preselects is everyone expecting?

I'm expecting 15-20 w/ top 25% grades. Bid on DC, Chi, NYC. Mainly NYC.


I'm hoping to get 20+ w/ top 15%, bidding on DC and TX primarily, with some bids spread over Chi/NYC/Boston.
Last edited by Anonymous User on Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How many preselects is everyone expecting?

I'm expecting 15-20 w/ top 25% grades. Bid on DC, Chi, NYC. Mainly NYC.


That's about what I was expecting, but I have top 15% grades and bid solely on NYC. Maybe I should be expecting more.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:24 pm

I'm expecting between 15-20 with slightly above a 3.48 and bidding almost all NYC. About right?

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:05 pm

Top 10%, all DC. No idea what to expect. But Career Services seemed optimistic...

showNprove
Posts: 968
Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:52 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby showNprove » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:40 am

Unless there are less firms coming this year than last, you all are very much underestimating your pre-selects...unless you bid heavily on DC...unless you're in the Top 10% of your class, in which case DC is fine.

Then again, I guess it's good to not get your hopes up, just in case. But don't be surprised if your 3.5, all NYC bids nets you more than 20 pre-selects.

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:03 am

showNprove wrote:Unless there are less firms coming this year than last, you all are very much underestimating your pre-selects...unless you bid heavily on DC...unless you're in the Top 10% of your class, in which case DC is fine.

Then again, I guess it's good to not get your hopes up, just in case. But don't be surprised if your 3.5, all NYC bids nets you more than 20 pre-selects.


Image

Anonymous User
Posts: 273601
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:09 pm

showNprove wrote:Unless there are less firms coming this year than last, you all are very much underestimating your pre-selects...unless you bid heavily on DC...unless you're in the Top 10% of your class, in which case DC is fine.

Then again, I guess it's good to not get your hopes up, just in case. But don't be surprised if your 3.5, all NYC bids nets you more than 20 pre-selects.



RVP, Cavalier, TheSeaLocust, etc care to weigh in on this?

User avatar
Cavalier
Posts: 1994
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:13 pm

Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Cavalier » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
showNprove wrote:Unless there are less firms coming this year than last, you all are very much underestimating your pre-selects...unless you bid heavily on DC...unless you're in the Top 10% of your class, in which case DC is fine.

Then again, I guess it's good to not get your hopes up, just in case. But don't be surprised if your 3.5, all NYC bids nets you more than 20 pre-selects.

RVP, Cavalier, TheSeaLocust, etc care to weigh in on this?

That statement is accurate; nothing to add.




Return to “Legal Employment”

Who is online

The online users are hidden on this forum.