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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:45 pm

has anyone heard more about the UVa & Duke Los Angeles/West Coast job fair? I thought we were getting more info in late July.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby bgdddymtty » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:56 pm

Anonymous User wrote:has anyone heard more about the UVa & Duke Los Angeles/West Coast job fair? I thought we were getting more info in late July.
Bidding is currently up for it in Symplicity. Other than that, I don't think we've heard anything.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby showNprove » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Do any upperclassman know how low is realistic for one to expect having a chance at a lottery in terms of bid number?

It depends who you bid on. If you bid only on major markets, I wouldn't get excited for anything below 15. If you have an Alabama firm at #45, you may get a lottery interview.

The notable exceptions to the rule are the picky firms. I heard someone got Williams and Connolly last year from a very, very low bid, simply because everyone else was too risk averse to even try.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Gecko of Doom » Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:41 pm

wackjickham wrote:
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Julio_El_Chavo wrote:There are only about 80 or so people above the 3.5 mark in the 1L class and I think most of them are TLS posters.


I like shownprove's theory better


Unfortunately I have a feeling that 2014 will be more accomplished and diverse :(

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:03 pm

Maynard Cooper & Gale is in.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:12 pm

How much class on average do people miss for callbacks in their 2L fall, and does that negatively affect them gradewise?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Cavalier » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How much class on average do people miss for callbacks in their 2L fall, and does that negatively affect them gradewise?

You'll see a lot of empty seats the first few weeks of the semester. Depending on how well you do, you may miss two or more entire weeks of class. Missing class certainly doesn't help one's grades, but you can mostly mitigate the damage by using fall break to catch up on all the reading you've missed. Just try to avoid missing key seminar classes, or an accounting assignment deadline, or something similarly important, and you'll be fine. Remember that finding a summer associate position is infinitely more important than your 2L grades, so you should schedule callbacks without regard to how much class you are missing. Seriously.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby bgdddymtty » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:29 pm

Cavalier wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:How much class on average do people miss for callbacks in their 2L fall, and does that negatively affect them gradewise?

You'll see a lot of empty seats the first few weeks of the semester. Depending on how well you do, you may miss two or more entire weeks of class. Missing class certainly doesn't help one's grades, but you can mostly mitigate the damage by using fall break to catch up on all the reading you've missed. Just try to avoid missing key seminar classes, or an accounting assignment deadline, or something similarly important, and you'll be fine. Remember that finding a summer associate position is infinitely more important than your 2L grades, so you should schedule callbacks without regard to how much class you are missing. Seriously.
In that vein, is/are there a particular day(s) of the week that firms generally schedule callbacks? Do they tend to be flexible on this, or is it the type of thing where they'll have several candidates coming in on the same day?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Cavalier » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:37 pm

bgdddymtty wrote:
Cavalier wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:How much class on average do people miss for callbacks in their 2L fall, and does that negatively affect them gradewise?

You'll see a lot of empty seats the first few weeks of the semester. Depending on how well you do, you may miss two or more entire weeks of class. Missing class certainly doesn't help one's grades, but you can mostly mitigate the damage by using fall break to catch up on all the reading you've missed. Just try to avoid missing key seminar classes, or an accounting assignment deadline, or something similarly important, and you'll be fine. Remember that finding a summer associate position is infinitely more important than your 2L grades, so you should schedule callbacks without regard to how much class you are missing. Seriously.
In that vein, is/are there a particular day(s) of the week that firms generally schedule callbacks? Do they tend to be flexible on this, or is it the type of thing where they'll have several candidates coming in on the same day?

Generally, you'll be able to choose the date of the callback, and can schedule it on any business day. A smaller office may not be equipped to handle more than one or two interviewees per day, so that firm may not be very flexible, but most mid-sized and large offices are fairly flexible. I'd advise arranging callbacks quickly though, to ensure you have the most options.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:03 pm

It can actually sometimes be harder at big firms, since everybody (logically) wants to be get through quickly. Last year I waited a day (24 hours) to schedule my callback with Sullivan & Cromwell. When I attempted to do so, they were booked a week out and I had to interview well after most other people from UVA had. You generally get your choice of day that's not full, and days (especially Mondays and Fridays) are in short supply given the number of people large firms try to see.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:54 pm

Cavalier wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:How much class on average do people miss for callbacks in their 2L fall, and does that negatively affect them gradewise?

You'll see a lot of empty seats the first few weeks of the semester. Depending on how well you do, you may miss two or more entire weeks of class. Missing class certainly doesn't help one's grades, but you can mostly mitigate the damage by using fall break to catch up on all the reading you've missed. Just try to avoid missing key seminar classes, or an accounting assignment deadline, or something similarly important, and you'll be fine. Remember that finding a summer associate position is infinitely more important than your 2L grades, so you should schedule callbacks without regard to how much class you are missing. Seriously.


Thanks, Cavalier! You're a huge help, to me and I'm sure many many others.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby bgdddymtty » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:It can actually sometimes be harder at big firms, since everybody (logically) wants to be get through quickly. Last year I waited a day (24 hours) to schedule my callback with Sullivan & Cromwell. When I attempted to do so, they were booked a week out and I had to interview well after most other people from UVA had. You generally get your choice of day that's not full, and days (especially Mondays and Fridays) are in short supply given the number of people large firms try to see.
Thanks. What's the typical schedule of a callback like? When in the day do they typically start/end?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Cavalier » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:43 pm

bgdddymtty wrote:Thanks. What's the typical schedule of a callback like? When in the day do they typically start/end?

It seems like the most typical format is several thirty minute interviews beginning in the morning with a mix of associates and partners, followed by lunch with junior associates, and you'll be out by early afternoon. But this can vary substantially. Some may start earlier in the morning (around 9:30 as opposed to 10 or 10:30) and not include lunch. Others may begin in the afternoon and not include a meal. Some firms will give you a lot of flexibility in scheduling them (they'll let you choose whether you want to start in the morning or afternoon and whether or not you want lunch), and others won't.

Once you get a callback at a firm, you should definitely search the firm on TLS, AutoAdmit, Above the Law, and so on (if you haven't already done this as part of your research in the bidding process), to see if there are any posts on what a callback there is like.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:01 am

Callbacks are fun, treat them as such.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:03 am

Anonymous User wrote:Callbacks are fun, treat them as such.


Cool story, bro.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby showNprove » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:04 am

Anonymous User wrote:How much class on average do people miss for callbacks in their 2L fall, and does that negatively affect them gradewise?

I missed a lot of class--in some cases, more than the 20% we're "allowed" to miss--and the professors were all very understanding. It was also my best semester grade wise, so take that for what it's worth.

I would recommend not worrying about how much class you miss. If it comes down to scheduling an interview a.s.a.p. versus missing a class for the fourth time in a row, always miss the class.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:10 pm

So have we figured out if alternates show up in real time or if they are all revealed after the lottery?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So have we figured out if alternates show up in real time or if they are all revealed after the lottery?

A friend of mine told me that OCS said that alternates will turn into interview spots between 11:00 PM tonight and 11:00 PM tomorrow night. So I'm assuming it will happen in real time.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby dgouzoul » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:17 pm

11pm: commence the command-R on the symplicity bids page

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Doritos » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:36 pm

dgouzoul wrote:11pm: commence the command-R on the symplicity bids page


Or F5 if you have a real computer.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Cavalier » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:36 pm

Doritos wrote:
dgouzoul wrote:11pm: commence the command-R on the symplicity bids page

Or F5 if you have a real computer.

Haha I didn't even know F5 refreshes until now. That'll be so useful for grade refreshing :)

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby joeshmo39 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:39 pm

Doritos wrote:
dgouzoul wrote:11pm: commence the command-R on the symplicity bids page


Or F5 if you have a real computer.


Also CTRL + R to be inclusive. Still not sure what people on those fake computers do though.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:26 pm

Cavalier wrote:
Doritos wrote:
dgouzoul wrote:11pm: commence the command-R on the symplicity bids page

Or F5 if you have a real computer.

Haha I didn't even know F5 refreshes until now. That'll be so useful for grade refreshing :)


Really? Grade refreshing as a 3L? You gunning for SCOTUS clerkship, bro?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:28 pm

If u get a lottery with a firm that pwned you, but you are above or around their average callback gpa is it realistic to assume that you have a legitimate shot?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:37 pm

if you accepted a preselect for a different office at the same firm that you have listed at #1 or #2 and the firm doesn't allow for multiple office interviews, could you still get the other office through the lottery? or does it just go on to the next ranked bid?




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