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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby dailygrind » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:10 pm

wackjickham wrote:Bertstare alt is the best thing ever to happen to TLS


And I can't even tell who it is. Which makes me believe I know who it is. But I'm just going to go ahead and make believe it's not an alt.

ETA: if you post anonymously it says the mods will know you wrote it, but I still have to check to see who's behind the curtain. I rarely bother unless someone's being a jackass, and I definitely won't check if you're posting about your grades. Besides the fact that I would rather remain ignorant of how many people are having wild monkey sex in the library stacks and still kicking my ass GPAwise, I really don't want to know what other people are getting.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby thesealocust » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:20 pm

wackjickham wrote:Bertstare alt is the best thing ever to happen to TLS


You clearly weren't here for the clown school forum incident, but I'll grant you this is a close second.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby barry » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I have a 3.22 and am interested in New York and Atlanta with no ties to either one. Should I scrap Atlanta completely and bid solely on New York or is Atlanta still a possibility? What about other secondary southern markets like Dallas or Charlotte with no ties? Thanks in advance for any insight.


similar situation except about right at median and my home market is Chi, about how many (% wise) should i throw to NYC and should my bids just be the biggest class sizes and just scattered between firms below the V25 or so?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:18 pm

There's another URM who posted their grades and asked for their chances on the previous page. My question is less specific than that particular one and is based mostly on the question of reliability of the advice URM's can receive from asking questions here.

That's not meant to sound douchey in any sense. It's just the only URM I know who isn't rising to their second year and posts semi-regularly on the UVA threads is Konihoor and I don't see him around. I'm loathe to view OGI like law school applications where you could take chances and just shrug off losses. At least then, I knew or at least experienced the sensation of knowing how being a URM changed the game; here, I have no idea. Does it change anything at all? Would a median URM be foolish to bet on Boies? Would that be perfectly fine? Would a below median URM be fine picking McGuire Woods? Should they just try to focus on secondary markets? Or maybe the dynamics don't change at all and we should just focus on the same advice others are receiving? It's all up in the air.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby swinger » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:52 am

wackjickham wrote:
bertstare wrote:
A Swift wrote:Guys. Chances at OGI with a few withdraws/fails second semester but a banging rap record with 200 listens on Facebook?


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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:18 am

About top 15% (3.56), 1-2 years of legal WE before school: interested in DC litigation, home market is in the Midwest (Chicago area) and I would be fine with returning to work there or nearby. Not really interested in NY.

How many bids out of 50 would I need to use on DC to make an offer reasonably likely? Does that leave me enough bids to target the Midwest with the remainder, instead of NY?

Any litigation firms out in Chicagoland or surrounding states with a good UVA connection?

Thanks for help with any of the above questions.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:34 am

Anonymous User wrote:3.44 (assuming B+'s in the two classes for which I'm still waiting for grades)

Only interested in secondary markets (I have a family, and I think that the work/life/disposable income balance in NYC is idiotic), particularly the following (in more or less this order):
Texas
Vegas
San Diego
Orange County
Denver
Phoenix
Atlanta

Significant ties all over the West (read: lived west of the Continental Divide, in multiple states, all but the first and last year of my life). No major ties to Texas, but I've researched things well enough to tell what I think is a pretty compelling story of why I'd like to move my family there permanently.

Any thoughts on strategy?


Can you put a junk e-mail address on here so I can e-mail you anonymously? I bid on most of those cities last year and I can tell you my experience with that. The bottom line is you're probably going to need to bid on at least one big city to fill up your bid sheet.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:57 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:3.44 (assuming B+'s in the two classes for which I'm still waiting for grades)

Only interested in secondary markets (I have a family, and I think that the work/life/disposable income balance in NYC is idiotic), particularly the following (in more or less this order):
Texas
Vegas
San Diego
Orange County
Denver
Phoenix
Atlanta

Significant ties all over the West (read: lived west of the Continental Divide, in multiple states, all but the first and last year of my life). No major ties to Texas, but I've researched things well enough to tell what I think is a pretty compelling story of why I'd like to move my family there permanently.

Any thoughts on strategy?


Can you put a junk e-mail address on here so I can e-mail you anonymously? I bid on most of those cities last year and I can tell you my experience with that. The bottom line is you're probably going to need to bid on at least one big city to fill up your bid sheet.
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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:52 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Can I get some advice from people, here is what you need to know:

GPA - 3.08 (Yea, I fucked up second semester)
UG - Top UG B-school
Work Experience - Pretty Decent

I am looking exclusively at NYC with other secondary markets in the Northeast. I will be applying to all these secondary markets and NYC Firms not coming to OGI in July, hoping for a few interviews. I think I am a good interviewer and can meet people and be personable right away. The only thing that is holding me back is the fact that I totally fucked up second semester. Does any one have advice for me/been through similar circumstances that came out ok?

Thanks


Don't rely on OGIs. Bid wisely. Hit up NY.


Thanks, does anyone have any specific advice, like firms that will hire from this range? How to get interviews before OCI? Whether or not I shouldn't include my transcript with my application package emails? Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:57 am

Anonymous User wrote:
A Swift wrote:Guys. Chances at OGI with a few withdraws/fails second semester but a banging rap record with 200 listens on Facebook?


I see you son, --LinkRemoved--



200 views? try 275,000

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:58 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Can I get some advice from people, here is what you need to know:

GPA - 3.08 (Yea, I fucked up second semester)
UG - Top UG B-school
Work Experience - Pretty Decent

I am looking exclusively at NYC with other secondary markets in the Northeast. I will be applying to all these secondary markets and NYC Firms not coming to OGI in July, hoping for a few interviews. I think I am a good interviewer and can meet people and be personable right away. The only thing that is holding me back is the fact that I totally fucked up second semester. Does any one have advice for me/been through similar circumstances that came out ok?

Thanks


Don't rely on OGIs. Bid wisely. Hit up NY.


Thanks, does anyone have any specific advice, like firms that will hire from this range? How to get interviews before OCI? Whether or not I shouldn't include my transcript with my application package emails? Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.


Can you list your grades (just like B+, B, B-...etc) I'm just kinda curious what a 3.08 transcript looks like.

Talk to Career services, they can probably tell u more about what firms might hire from your GPA. But rest assured being able to network and interview is going to be important.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:10 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Can I get some advice from people, here is what you need to know:

GPA - 3.08 (Yea, I fucked up second semester)
UG - Top UG B-school
Work Experience - Pretty Decent

I am looking exclusively at NYC with other secondary markets in the Northeast. I will be applying to all these secondary markets and NYC Firms not coming to OGI in July, hoping for a few interviews. I think I am a good interviewer and can meet people and be personable right away. The only thing that is holding me back is the fact that I totally fucked up second semester. Does any one have advice for me/been through similar circumstances that came out ok?

Thanks


Don't rely on OGIs. Bid wisely. Hit up NY.


Thanks, does anyone have any specific advice, like firms that will hire from this range? How to get interviews before OCI? Whether or not I shouldn't include my transcript with my application package emails? Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.


Can you list your grades (just like B+, B, B-...etc) I'm just kinda curious what a 3.08 transcript looks like.

Talk to Career services, they can probably tell u more about what firms might hire from your GPA. But rest assured being able to network and interview is going to be important.


Second Semester = 3B and a B-
First Semester = 3B+, 1B

Pretty much sucked it up big time, and instead of stepping it up a notch, I definitely took a few steps down second semester.

Does anyone have advice on how I should be networking now? I am pretty much just sending out emails to firms asking to meet people in practice areas I have interest, and I will be applying to those firms in mid july to organize interviews. Is there anything else I can do?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:2.88 URM. Not expecting to get a firm job but I might as well do OGI. Any suggestions for bidding?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:2.88 URM. Not expecting to get a firm job but I might as well do OGI. Any suggestions for bidding?


What does a 2.88 transcript look like?

Did you make one really terrible grade or were they consistently low?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby badwithpseudonyms » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:2.88 URM. Not expecting to get a firm job but I might as well do OGI. Any suggestions for bidding?


What does a 2.88 transcript look like?

Did you make one really terrible grade or were they consistently low?


I'm not the Anon that posted this, but what the fuck do you think?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby showNprove » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:34 am

The best advice I have for people at median or below: in late June/early July, send targeted applications to firms in your home region, where you are working this summer, and in secondary markets of interest. I earned seven callback interviews doing that. Even if the firm is coming to OGI, expressing the early interest is always a good thing. Two firms put me on their OGI interview list ahead of time because I had contacted them early.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:2.88 URM. Not expecting to get a firm job but I might as well do OGI. Any suggestions for bidding?


What does a 2.88 transcript look like?

Did you make one really terrible grade or were they consistently low?


Made a C and several B-s with highest grades being B+s.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:10 pm

Bump. Anonymous OP here, I noticed that there are about 10 OCI firms in the Chicago area that I am interested in; if I use 10 bids for these and I devote about 40 bids to DC/VA firms, is that enough to make sure I get something without bidding NY?

Anonymous User wrote:About top 15% (3.56), 1-2 years of legal WE before school: interested in DC litigation, home market is in the Midwest (Chicago area) and I would be fine with returning to work there or nearby. Not really interested in NY.

How many bids out of 50 would I need to use on DC to make an offer reasonably likely? Does that leave me enough bids to target the Midwest with the remainder, instead of NY?

Any litigation firms out in Chicagoland or surrounding states with a good UVA connection?

Thanks for help with any of the above questions.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:27 pm

I know we're advised to put our GPA's on our resumes, but I seem to remember hearing apocryphally that we're discouraged from approximating a class percentile/rank? Anyone seen this in writing anywhere?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I know we're advised to put our GPA's on our resumes, but I seem to remember hearing apocryphally that we're discouraged from approximating a class percentile/rank? Anyone seen this in writing anywhere?


Email CSO and ask.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I know we're advised to put our GPA's on our resumes, but I seem to remember hearing apocryphally that we're discouraged from approximating a class percentile/rank? Anyone seen this in writing anywhere?


Email CSO and ask.
Thanks for the response, but you do realize that that could be the answer to literally every question posted in this forum, right?

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I know we're advised to put our GPA's on our resumes, but I seem to remember hearing apocryphally that we're discouraged from approximating a class percentile/rank? Anyone seen this in writing anywhere?


Never, but I'm a rising 2L, too, so what do I know? My gut would be that it's tacky to put it down with firms that come to OGI, because they already have a fairly good idea of where you are (due to familiarity with the school), and putting it down seems...crass? With firms that don't come to OGI, I'd probably give it much more consideration. Some schools have a much wider GPA range than ours (**cough** NU), so putting down a class rank is a good way of letting an employer know how good we are relative to students from other schools.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I know we're advised to put our GPA's on our resumes, but I seem to remember hearing apocryphally that we're discouraged from approximating a class percentile/rank? Anyone seen this in writing anywhere?


Pretty sure it's against the honor code to put rank.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby vamedic03 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I know we're advised to put our GPA's on our resumes, but I seem to remember hearing apocryphally that we're discouraged from approximating a class percentile/rank? Anyone seen this in writing anywhere?


Pretty sure it's against the honor code to put rank.


Lol no.

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Re: UVa OGI 2011 thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:54 pm

How confident should I be if I'm bidding all NyC with top 1/4 grades?

What sort of firms are the target firms for someone in my GPA range?

Odds I can fill up all 20 interview slots?

Thanks




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