boaltrising3l wrote:Not sure how spreading hard truths is trolling but let me address things said.
1. The 75% figure is completely untrue. Perhaps 10% at most of the class is willing to settle for low paying work. The CDO also personally advised many of my friends not to participate in OCI because "it would be a waste of their time", so many did not participate due to encouragement from CDO. So many do not participate through advisement of the school.
2. The OCI figures people point to from the career office deceptively include those who got government jobs, not that there is anything wrong, but I don't think a summer at the federal public defender is what people think about of for OCI jobs.
3. The 30% figure is from my own personal conversations with career office personel about landing biglaw.
4. Even if the biglaw numbers are great 0Ls should look at the downside. Those who don't get a job at OCI fall into a few categories:
b. underemployed (working at doc review making around 10-15 dollars an hour)
c. doing government clerkship work (Working for free for a pd/ prosecutor or working for 15 an hour plus no health insurance coverage).
Once again, yeah Biglaw pays well, but outside biglaw people with a JD from Boalt make 15- 20 an hour tops. This information is not from me, its from a conversation with the career office about what a student can realistically expect to earn in the private sector.
So yeah there's good upside, but if you don't get Biglaw you wont be making more money than a barrista or car valet, which is why I plan to start mass mailing real soon. 0Ls deserve realistic expectations of the value of a Boalt JD.
We get it, dude. You're bitter and you likely can't interview well. Your dreams of an easy paycheck have been dashed. However, this doesn't mean it's cool to just spout off random BS to make yourself feel better.
1. Can't imagine you have "many" friends and while I know "many" people may have been advised not to do OCI, "many" who were told this still got offers.
2. It's been covered. There are barely any govt OCI jobs in there. It should also be pointed out that a good number of Boalt students get prestigious Federal and State government jobs every year. These are not always people with top 25% grades and they are often people who don't participate in a big firm 2L summer.
3. Since we have two sources of information (your supposed conversation and the OCI records that have been provided) we can evaluate the trustworthiness of the sources and decide which figure is more likely.
4. This is just inaccurate. There's a plethora of employment options for those who don't get OCI offers (including Biglaw- a few people every year will get SA positions despite striking out at OCI and without having family connections). Many individuals go into smaller firms, other government work, paying criminal work, etc. You could make an argument about the risks of going to law school, but when you're hyperbolic about it then you lose all credibility (along with the whole, weird AA grade argument, which you never substantiated when asked).