2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:30 pm

Top 10 - 15% at 25 - 30 school, SoCal ties: 3 preselects, 2 alternates. Hm.

I don't entirely understand the lottery part of this. The e-mail said, "The lottery will take place on Monday, July 18." Does this mean we'll be alerted then if we're selected as candidates? Help...

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby fl0w » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:55 pm

preselect
not invited
alternate
lottery

Is that how it works? You're only eligible for lottery if it lists "lottery" in your status thing right?

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:06 pm

That's exactly what I was confused about... Don't see any lottery indications in my status. Darn.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:07 pm

I do not have any "lottery" designations either .. I thought even if a firm rejected you for preselect you would eligible for lottery, through the ranking we put in at the time of the bidding, but this is clearly not true if people have "lottery" selected.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby fl0w » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I do not have any "lottery" designations either .. I thought even if a firm rejected you for preselect you would eligible for lottery, through the ranking we put in at the time of the bidding, but this is clearly not true if people have "lottery" selected.


yeah, this is why i asked.
Does anyone actually have "lottery" as their status?
Or does "not invited" mean you still have a chance at lottery?

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:36 pm

fl0w wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I do not have any "lottery" designations either .. I thought even if a firm rejected you for preselect you would eligible for lottery, through the ranking we put in at the time of the bidding, but this is clearly not true if people have "lottery" selected.


yeah, this is why i asked.
Does anyone actually have "lottery" as their status?
Or does "not invited" mean you still have a chance at lottery?


I dont think anyone actually has "lottery" in their status. That would happen thereafter the 18th I believe

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby fl0w » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
fl0w wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I do not have any "lottery" designations either .. I thought even if a firm rejected you for preselect you would eligible for lottery, through the ranking we put in at the time of the bidding, but this is clearly not true if people have "lottery" selected.


yeah, this is why i asked.
Does anyone actually have "lottery" as their status?
Or does "not invited" mean you still have a chance at lottery?


I dont think anyone actually has "lottery" in their status. That would happen thereafter the 18th I believe


So do we think that "not invited" then means that you still have a chance at lottery interviews?

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:15 pm

fl0w wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
fl0w wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I do not have any "lottery" designations either .. I thought even if a firm rejected you for preselect you would eligible for lottery, through the ranking we put in at the time of the bidding, but this is clearly not true if people have "lottery" selected.


yeah, this is why i asked.
Does anyone actually have "lottery" as their status?
Or does "not invited" mean you still have a chance at lottery?


I dont think anyone actually has "lottery" in their status. That would happen thereafter the 18th I believe


So do we think that "not invited" then means that you still have a chance at lottery interviews?


Yes, def, the lotteries have not come out yet. The way it was explained to me was that firms first select, then out of the people not selected each firms 25% will be filled by a lottery that would happen the 18th.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:44 pm

No I think it would say "lottery" if we were lottery candidate...at least it seems like that from the email.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:48 pm

4 preselects, 5 alternates, no lotteries (yet?). I also don't totally get how the alternate system works, any insights?

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby sonpleaseiamthelaw » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:20 pm

Top 30% MVP, 0 preselects, 2 alternates.

No ties to CA, but this is just horrible. There must be something seriously wrong with my resume/cover letter. Need to review them this weekend before OCI bidding.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Lt. Aldo Raine » Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:26 am

Here's the distribution of preselects so far:

0, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 11

Should we assume that TLSers would generally do better than the rest of the BADF population, or is that presumptuous much?

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby bree » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:10 am

A little above median MVPB, NorCal ties, 5 preselects + 3 alternates.

Lottery will run on July 18. Interviews are distributed purely on bid rankings. It is irrelevant whether or not you have received preselects/alternates.

Given that most employers have 13 interview slots, this means there are 25% x 13 = 3.25 interviews per employer location based on lottery. Given that there are 45 employers, this means there are 146.25 lottery interviews.
(Btw, I have no idea what 1/4 of an interview is ... I'm just running the approximate numbers ...)

I don't know how many people apply to this fair, but I'm guessing this means you'll get 1 or 2 lottery interviews at best.

Hope it helps.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:57 am

Anonymous User wrote:4 preselects, 5 alternates, no lotteries (yet?). I also don't totally get how the alternate system works, any insights?

In case anyone was wondering, I'm top 1/3 DCN, no ties, decent work experience.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Oban » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:44 pm

IIRC, last year about 500 people bid, and 250 interviews were granted, 120 or so call backs, and 50 offers.

Since most preselects probably go to top candidates, i'd imaging a lot of people who bid only got lottery interviews or no interviews.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:43 pm

Does anyone know how you figure out the schedule of your interviews? Thanks.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:29 pm

Does anyone have info about how the alternate system works? I really don't understand "first come, first serve" when it's all done online.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:13 pm

Can people who took part in this fair talk about how fast firms move after the fair? I am trying to take a vacation after the fair, and before OCI, and want to be in SF as long as possible before having to return to school to schedule callbacks (maybe get an offer) before OCI starts.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:27 pm

25 "not invited"s. Lame! Median-ish* @ T20, work experience, graduate degree . . . assed-out.

* School doesn't rank, so I am not 100% sure. They do inform us if we are in the top or bottom third, though. No word. Hence, the "median-ish."

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:21 am

If we have been chosen as a pre-select/alternate and need to edit our resumes, can we still do through the simplicity website, or should we just bring an updated resume to the interview??

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Can people who took part in this fair talk about how fast firms move after the fair? I am trying to take a vacation after the fair, and before OCI, and want to be in SF as long as possible before having to return to school to schedule callbacks (maybe get an offer) before OCI starts.


Bumping this, anyone know time-table? Thanks.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby fl0w » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If we have been chosen as a pre-select/alternate and need to edit our resumes, can we still do through the simplicity website, or should we just bring an updated resume to the interview??


you can do it through the website but they won't get it.

bring it with you (like you would have had to anyway)

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby law1931 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone have info about how the alternate system works? I really don't understand "first come, first serve" when it's all done online.


Can anyone speak to the way that alternates can secure an interview?

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:17 pm

Last year, alternates worked like this.

You login to the system at the scheduled time and if there is an open slot (i.e. someone who got invited to interview in the first round, declined), then everyone who is selected as an alternate has a chance to grab that open slot. Its first come first serve, not a lottery among the chosen alternates. So you better make sure you're by a computer at that time and sign up as fast as possible.

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Re: 2011 Bay Area Diversity Career Fair

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Can people who took part in this fair talk about how fast firms move after the fair? I am trying to take a vacation after the fair, and before OCI, and want to be in SF as long as possible before having to return to school to schedule callbacks (maybe get an offer) before OCI starts.


Bumping this, anyone know time-table? Thanks.


Depends on the firm. Many will try to bring you in for a callback before you head out to your school (especially if you go to an out of state school), so that they can save on air fare. As for offers, I only have a couple of data points. Most firms will wait till after they've interviewed other candidates at real OCIs before sending out offers, though I know of one guy who got an offer within like a week.

I would make sure to tell the interviewer when you will be going back to school so that they know to make a decision fast about callbacks.




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