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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone has baker hostetler offer?


Offers are out.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:33 pm

any movement on either AGG or SGR? had phone screener with former and cb with latter, both over a week ago and total radio silence.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby North » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:any movement on either AGG or SGR? had phone screener with former and cb with latter, both over a week ago and total radio silence.

AGG is done per an internal e-mail reported in the AGG CB----->Offer thread

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby North » Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:15 pm

Officially struck out in ATL a couple days ago. I bid (high up, too) every ATL firm that came to OGI, mass mailed, and hit up all the ATL Symplicity postings. Came away with one CB, and one on-site screener that I had to pay my way for. Even had my OCS call the CB firm to tell them it was my top choice and I'd accept on the spot if they offered me. Dings at both. Y'all weren't joking. It's a bloodbath.

Next year's bid-list builders beware. Bruce Wayne speaks the truth.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:28 pm

Anyone do a callback with Nelson Mullins in Atlanta. I had one this past week and haven't heard back yet.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:33 pm

Kilpatrick post-CB ding a few days ago. CB was early Sept

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:52 pm

Baker Donelson movement?

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:53 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Baker Donelson movement?


Haven't heard from them since my screener. womp.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:26 pm

anyone hear from Smith Gambrell lately?

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:16 am

nada on SGR. had CB over two weeks ago.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:43 pm

Does anyone know the starting (and/or subsequent) salaries at Troutman, Baker, or K&S?

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby North » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know the starting (and/or subsequent) salaries at Troutman, Baker, or K&S?

Let me Google that for you.

King & Spalding: $135,000
Troutman: $145,000
Baker Hostetler: $140,000
Baker Donelson: probably $120,000

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:15 pm

North wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know the starting (and/or subsequent) salaries at Troutman, Baker, or K&S?

Let me Google that for you.

King & Spalding: $135,000
Troutman: $145,000
Baker Hostetler: $140,000
Baker Donelson: probably $120,000


Sorry, left out two important letters.

Starting *IP* salaries.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:06 pm

Is this salary figure accurate? I though the market salary is 145,000.

http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=120 ... -Recession

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is this salary figure accurate? I though the market salary is 145,000.

http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=120 ... -Recession

It is accurate. "market" for non IP has been $135k in ATL for quite a while.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:31 pm

I just noticed that Troutman is not on NALP. Are there any other Atlanta firms that I should definitely be aware of and are not on NALP before I mass-mail on Dec. 1?

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby wwwcol » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I just noticed that Troutman is not on NALP. Are there any other Atlanta firms that I should definitely be aware of and are not on NALP before I mass-mail on Dec. 1?


This question is really open ended

This thread has mentioned all the Atl BL firms. Was that not helpful enough?

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
North wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know the starting (and/or subsequent) salaries at Troutman, Baker, or K&S?

Let me Google that for you.

King & Spalding: $135,000
Troutman: $145,000
Baker Hostetler: $140,000
Baker Donelson: probably $120,000


Sorry, left out two important letters.

Starting *IP* salaries.

160k

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby fats provolone » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:22 pm

i don't think k&s IP is 160, unless that changed recently

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:31 pm

fats provolone wrote:i don't think k&s IP is 160, unless that changed recently

I don't think it is, don't have current numbers.

Anyone have lockstep progressions around town?

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            Lock-step?   1st Year IP      Min. Hours
Alston & Bird         Yes,       160         1900
Kilpatrick Townsend   Merit?   160         1900
Finnegan            Yes,       160         1920+80 pro bono
Fish & Richardson      Yes,       160         1900
DLA Piper               160   
Dow Lohnes         Yes      160   
Ballard Spahr   Combination lock-step/merit   150   1900
Jones Day         No      150         2000 (2013 avg 2259)
Paul Hastings      Yes      150         2000
Sutherland      1st, 2nd yr, then merit   145 + 15 deferred   1950+450 firm develop
Baker Hoestetler      No?      140         1950
Hunton & Williams   Combination145   
AGG   Combination, range      135         1800
Troutman Sanders   Merit      135 (IP?)   
Merchant & Gould   Combination   125   
Smith Gambrell   Combination   125 (IP?)   

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:17 pm

can anybody comment on the culture of King & Spalding v. Alston & Bird? Or the perception of their predominate practice groups, compensation, etc... How are both perceived in Atlanta? How are they both perceived in NYC?

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:15 pm

Why Troutman is not in http://www.nalpdirectory.com/? I can't find any summer associate information about this firm.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Omerta » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:can anybody comment on the culture of King & Spalding v. Alston & Bird? Or the perception of their predominate practice groups, compensation, etc... How are both perceived in Atlanta? How are they both perceived in NYC?


No real differences on a firm-wide basis; you're splitting hairs. People say that K&S is more intense hours-wise and more formal, but I really don't think there's a difference in practice. The associates I know at both firms are billing a lot, and their QOL depends on which partners they work for, not whether they're at A&B or K&S. Both firms have practice groups that are known to be very hard on associates, but it's more of a practice group thing. For example, I have a friend at A&B. He really enjoys working there, but other associates in the same group and same sub-specialty are super miserable because they work for an insane partner. (Moral of this story: do your diligence on who you're going to work for).

Both firms have roughly equivalent perceptions among lawyers and non-lawyers are well-regarded in ATL. Can't say anything about NY impressions. My personal impression is that I wasn't very impressed with their work product (I'm a clerk). It wasn't horrible, but I wouldn't pay the rates they charge if that's what I got.

As for practice groups, they're generally highly-regarded and differentiated only in terms of who their client base is. For example, K&S does more debtor-side bankruptcy work while A&B does more creditor-side stuff. K&S has a phenomenal products liability group, but A&B is much better for privacy and data breach litigation. K&S probably wins on leveraged finance, and A&B has a slightly stronger M&A team. I think trying to compare them for "quality" is a waste of time; it's more about sub-specialties that I doubt someone could make a meaningful/informed decision unless you are really into a specific field of law.

As for compensation, they both start at ATL market. I believe A&B has more salary compression as you advance but don't have firsthand knowledge.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:42 pm

Omerta wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:can anybody comment on the culture of King & Spalding v. Alston & Bird? Or the perception of their predominate practice groups, compensation, etc... How are both perceived in Atlanta? How are they both perceived in NYC?


No real differences on a firm-wide basis; you're splitting hairs. People say that K&S is more intense hours-wise and more formal, but I really don't think there's a difference in practice. The associates I know at both firms are billing a lot, and their QOL depends on which partners they work for, not whether they're at A&B or K&S. Both firms have practice groups that are known to be very hard on associates, but it's more of a practice group thing. For example, I have a friend at A&B. He really enjoys working there, but other associates in the same group and same sub-specialty are super miserable because they work for an insane partner. (Moral of this story: do your diligence on who you're going to work for).

Both firms have roughly equivalent perceptions among lawyers and non-lawyers are well-regarded in ATL. Can't say anything about NY impressions. My personal impression is that I wasn't very impressed with their work product (I'm a clerk). It wasn't horrible, but I wouldn't pay the rates they charge if that's what I got.

As for practice groups, they're generally highly-regarded and differentiated only in terms of who their client base is. For example, K&S does more debtor-side bankruptcy work while A&B does more creditor-side stuff. K&S has a phenomenal products liability group, but A&B is much better for privacy and data breach litigation. K&S probably wins on leveraged finance, and A&B has a slightly stronger M&A team. I think trying to compare them for "quality" is a waste of time; it's more about sub-specialties that I doubt someone could make a meaningful/informed decision unless you are really into a specific field of law.

As for compensation, they both start at ATL market. I believe A&B has more salary compression as you advance but don't have firsthand knowledge.


Pretty much confirmed what I have heard: KS is a sweat shop. Do u know anything about Troutman? I know it is not as prestigious (or compensation) as KS or AB, but I heard there is a good life work balance over there.

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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:54 pm

Omerta wrote:As for compensation, they both start at ATL market. I believe A&B has more salary compression as you advance but don't have firsthand knowledge.


What is salary compression?




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