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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:25 pm

Awkward question: How does drug use (before and during the beginning of law school) affect job prospects for state AG, DA, and PD? Is this a common question in interviews? Or is it simply done through drug tests?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby seatown12 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:09 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Awkward question: How does drug use (before and during the beginning of law school) affect job prospects for state AG, DA, and PD? Is this a common question in interviews? Or is it simply done through drug tests?

lol neither but do you really wanna be the ultimate hypocrite douche, a drug-using DA?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby los blancos » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:16 pm

bilbobaggins wrote:
The PD's office is the only local government office required by the US Constitution.



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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Ded Precedent » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Awkward question: How does drug use (before and during the beginning of law school) affect job prospects for state AG, DA, and PD? Is this a common question in interviews? Or is it simply done through drug tests?

Do you have convictions or were you planning on saying "yes" when they asked if you have ever used drugs?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby bilbobaggins » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:03 pm

los blancos wrote:
bilbobaggins wrote:
The PD's office is the only local government office required by the US Constitution.



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6th amendment.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby los blancos » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:37 pm

bilbobaggins wrote:
6th amendment.



You don't need a PD's office per se to satisfy the 6A. It's the best way to do it (and I'm personally a big fan of funding PD's offices very well), but not the only way.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:29 pm

seatown12 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Awkward question: How does drug use (before and during the beginning of law school) affect job prospects for state AG, DA, and PD? Is this a common question in interviews? Or is it simply done through drug tests?

lol neither but do you really wanna be the ultimate hypocrite douche, a drug-using DA?


Past use doesn't mean current or future use.

Ded Precedent wrote:Do you have convictions or were you planning on saying "yes" when they asked if you have ever used drugs?


Any guesses on 1) the chances of a lie being found out (assuming no conviction) and 2) the repercussions for lying?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby dreakol » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:39 am

Anonymous User wrote:
seatown12 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Awkward question: How does drug use (before and during the beginning of law school) affect job prospects for state AG, DA, and PD? Is this a common question in interviews? Or is it simply done through drug tests?

lol neither but do you really wanna be the ultimate hypocrite douche, a drug-using DA?


Past use doesn't mean current or future use.

Ded Precedent wrote:Do you have convictions or were you planning on saying "yes" when they asked if you have ever used drugs?


Any guesses on 1) the chances of a lie being found out (assuming no conviction) and 2) the repercussions for lying?


just be honest to an extent. I have a conviction and at least for internships, no one has seemed to care.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby D.A. Confidential » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:43 am

Anonymous User wrote:Awkward question: How does drug use (before and during the beginning of law school) affect job prospects for state AG, DA, and PD? Is this a common question in interviews? Or is it simply done through drug tests?



Be honest. Also, what kind of drugs? If it's just weed, likely they won't care that much.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby bilbobaggins » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:45 pm

los blancos wrote:
bilbobaggins wrote:
6th amendment.



You don't need a PD's office per se to satisfy the 6A. It's the best way to do it (and I'm personally a big fan of funding PD's offices very well), but not the only way.


No shit, really?

Also: I think it's hypocritical to put someone in jail or prison for conduct identical or similar to what the DA has done in the past or is doing now.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Tanicius » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:43 pm

los blancos wrote:
bilbobaggins wrote:
6th amendment.



You don't need a PD's office per se to satisfy the 6A. It's the best way to do it (and I'm personally a big fan of funding PD's offices very well), but not the only way.



Well, Gideon v. Wainwright says you need to guarantee counsel b/c of the 6th Amendment. I guess how you provide that counsel can vary, but short of a giant-ass private donation, one way or another the funding for the attorneys, whether they are private attorneys or a public office, is coming from the government. I wouldn't say Bilbo was off by saying PD offices are required by the Constitution. Effectively they are.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby gntsf12 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:07 pm

Tanicius wrote:
los blancos wrote:
bilbobaggins wrote:
6th amendment.



You don't need a PD's office per se to satisfy the 6A. It's the best way to do it (and I'm personally a big fan of funding PD's offices very well), but not the only way.



Well, Gideon v. Wainwright says you need to guarantee counsel b/c of the 6th Amendment. I guess how you provide that counsel can vary, but short of a giant-ass private donation, one way or another the funding for the attorneys, whether they are private attorneys or a public office, is coming from the government. I wouldn't say Bilbo was off by saying PD offices are required by the Constitution. Effectively they are.



Lots of jurisdictions have court appointed attorneys and no public defender offices. The Gideon requirement is certainly met in those instances, despite the fact that indigents are not represented by a PD office.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby seatown12 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:50 pm

gntsf12 wrote:Lots of jurisdictions have court appointed attorneys and no public defender offices. The Gideon requirement is certainly met in those instances, despite the fact that indigents are not represented by a PD office.

I think the spirit of the original post was that indigent defense services are required by the Constitution.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Tanicius » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:27 am

seatown12 wrote:
gntsf12 wrote:Lots of jurisdictions have court appointed attorneys and no public defender offices. The Gideon requirement is certainly met in those instances, despite the fact that indigents are not represented by a PD office.

I think the spirit of the original post was that indigent defense services are required by the Constitution.


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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby sadsituationJD » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:26 am

The PD's office is the only local government office required by the US Constitution. They won't go away. They're already being stretched in terms of caseloads. As soon as there's more money they'll be doing a ton of hiring. I don't know what else to tell you.



ROTFL! It's also required by the "Constitution" to get Congressional approval for war, but of course we know that doesn't happen.

PD and prosecutor jobs are easy and painless to cut, since both are little more than make-work paper churning. In NJ they cut 25% of these clowns and just tell poor people to hit the library and do it themselves:

http://articles.philly.com/2010-08-14/n ... ewer-cases


This thread is truly LOL worthy.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Borhas » Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:13 am

sadsituationJD wrote:
The PD's office is the only local government office required by the US Constitution. They won't go away. They're already being stretched in terms of caseloads. As soon as there's more money they'll be doing a ton of hiring. I don't know what else to tell you.



ROTFL! It's also required by the "Constitution" to get Congressional approval for war, but of course we know that doesn't happen.

PD and prosecutor jobs are easy and painless to cut, since both are little more than make-work paper churning. In NJ they cut 25% of these clowns and just tell poor people to hit the library and do it themselves:

http://articles.philly.com/2010-08-14/n ... ewer-cases


This thread is truly LOL worthy.


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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby bilbobaggins » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:12 am

sadsituationJD wrote:
The PD's office is the only local government office required by the US Constitution. They won't go away. They're already being stretched in terms of caseloads. As soon as there's more money they'll be doing a ton of hiring. I don't know what else to tell you.



ROTFL! It's also required by the "Constitution" to get Congressional approval for war, but of course we know that doesn't happen.

PD and prosecutor jobs are easy and painless to cut, since both are little more than make-work paper churning. In NJ they cut 25% of these clowns and just tell poor people to hit the library and do it themselves:

http://articles.philly.com/2010-08-14/n ... ewer-cases


This thread is truly LOL worthy.


You need to up your troll game.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby target » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:31 pm

bilbobaggins wrote:
sadsituationJD wrote:
The PD's office is the only local government office required by the US Constitution. They won't go away. They're already being stretched in terms of caseloads. As soon as there's more money they'll be doing a ton of hiring. I don't know what else to tell you.



ROTFL! It's also required by the "Constitution" to get Congressional approval for war, but of course we know that doesn't happen.

PD and prosecutor jobs are easy and painless to cut, since both are little more than make-work paper churning. In NJ they cut 25% of these clowns and just tell poor people to hit the library and do it themselves:

http://articles.philly.com/2010-08-14/n ... ewer-cases


This thread is truly LOL worthy.


You need to up your troll game.


And actually read the article that you posted.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Tanicius » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:45 pm

To add to that, the Supreme Court was serious when they ruled on this matter. If a court refuses to appoint counsel for someone charged with a felony who can't afford an attorney, the case gets dismissed or remanded. Let a state like Alabama try to fire all its PD's and watch as they fail to put a single felony case in prison until they hire them back.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby sadsituationJD » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:33 pm

To add to that, the Supreme Court was serious when they ruled on this matter. If a court refuses to appoint counsel for someone charged with a felony who can't afford an attorney, the case gets dismissed or remanded. Let a state like Alabama try to fire all its PD's and watch as they fail to put a single felony case in prison until they hire them back.


This whole thread is perhaps the most ROTFL item I've ever seen on the internet! Do you really think anyone in gov't cares anything about the "average" shitlaw criminal case? They'll just stop prosecuting more and more cases, like Tpeka, KS is doing with wifebeating:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/weird/Ca ... 68933.html


Even Camden, NJ, a longtime member of the "Top 3" most dangerous cities in America (and often ringing in at #1), canned 18 ADA's last year:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/loc ... 20454.html

Sacremento CA shitcanned 31 ADA's last year, and likewise say they'll just stop prosecuting bullshit crimes:

http://subprimejd.blogspot.com/2011/06/ ... mered.html


Personally I approve and endorse this development, and believe it's a great way to slash budgets. Most of the "criminals" are low level drug possessors and pushers. The USA already has the highest % of it's population in prison of any Western country, so culling the herd of useless paper pushers who "lock 'em up" is a great idea.

Now I'm off to the Star Trek forum to read the thread about "First Manned Mission to Mars" gunners, which is much more realistic a career expectation than the nonsense in this thread. The closest most of you are ever getting to a DA/PD job is watching "Law & Order" reruns on your DVR.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Tanicius » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:13 pm

sadsituationJD wrote:
To add to that, the Supreme Court was serious when they ruled on this matter. If a court refuses to appoint counsel for someone charged with a felony who can't afford an attorney, the case gets dismissed or remanded. Let a state like Alabama try to fire all its PD's and watch as they fail to put a single felony case in prison until they hire them back.


Personally I approve and endorse this development, and believe it's a great way to slash budgets. Most of the "criminals" are low level drug possessors and pushers. The USA already has the highest % of it's population in prison of any Western country.


Agreed in full. Not inconsistent with virtually anything anyone else in this thread has said.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby target » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:43 pm

sadsituationJD wrote: This whole thread is perhaps the most ROTFL item I've ever seen on the internet! Do you really think anyone in gov't cares anything about the "average" shitlaw criminal case? They'll just stop prosecuting more and more cases, like Tpeka, KS is doing with wifebeating:


I heard big law firms laid off people too. So did a whole lot of government agencies. Damn it, that means I cannot find a legal job anywhere. I know I should have listened to MTal.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Borhas » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:11 pm

sigh, this douche again


Sacramento:

"As you know on August 11, we informed our staff there would be no layoffs," Scully said. "We settled a major lawsuit against Chevron and this lawsuit was for violations of anti-pollution laws."
....

It's enough money for her office to reinstate about 60 jobs and enable prosecutors to continue going after suspects in major narcotics, political corruption and misdemeanor cases.


http://www.news10.net/news/watchdogs/15 ... settlement


Camden, New Jersey

The number of workers to be laid off at the Camden County Prosecutor's Office is expected to come down to three, dramatically fewer than the 66 notified in February that they could lose their jobs, authorities have confirmed.

As negotiations continue between the county and unions, optimism has emerged that authorities will preserve nearly all of what Camden County Prosecutor Warren Faulk has said is an already lean staff that handles a high volume of criminal cases.

The prosecutor said Tuesday that he had identified three people who do not serve core functions in the office - a community liaison, a crime-scene agent, and the police academy coordinator - who could be let go.


http://articles.philly.com/2011-05-04/n ... lough-days

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby sadsituationJD » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:06 pm

Yeah, let's try and join an industry where the tiny % of people who do have jobs are hanging on to them by the skin of their teeth and layoffs will be bearing down HARD as property tax revenues and other gov't funding dry up and the economy further deteriorates. Let's also borrow gobs of money and piss away 3 prime years of life to do so.

NEWSFLASH: Jack McCoy is an actor, kids. His "real name" is Sam Waterston, and the "courtroom" is just a TV-show set (kind of like the Starship Enterprise LOL) Real life DA's sit in grungy basement broom closets and bang out plea deals for pot possessors all day long like DMV clerks (only lower paid rotlf) for 45 K a year and drive salt-rotted Yugos to work, praying every night they don't get laid off and tossed on the unemployment line with the rest of the TTT losers.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Ded Precedent » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:16 pm

I like the spirit of this troll but it needs some humor. Go back to the drawing boards and then come back with something that actually makes me laugh.




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