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A. Nony Mouse
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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:10 am

MoonDreamer wrote:I did a PD interview once. They did this mini-trial with me and gave me 10 minutes to come up with a closing. I was like "is this some sort of joke? I'm not doing a closing." The interviewers were shocked and were like "well...the closing is part of the interview..." I responded saying "looks like im done here. thank you for your time." Walked out.

Ladies and gentlemen, how not to be a prosecution/PD gunner.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby MoonDreamer » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:13 am

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
MoonDreamer wrote:I did a PD interview once. They did this mini-trial with me and gave me 10 minutes to come up with a closing. I was like "is this some sort of joke? I'm not doing a closing." The interviewers were shocked and were like "well...the closing is part of the interview..." I responded saying "looks like im done here. thank you for your time." Walked out.

Ladies and gentlemen, how not to be a prosecution/PD gunner.


I agree. It's how to be a badass and then go onto working at a law firm. Power suit, Power tie, Power steering.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:15 am

MoonDreamer wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
MoonDreamer wrote:I did a PD interview once. They did this mini-trial with me and gave me 10 minutes to come up with a closing. I was like "is this some sort of joke? I'm not doing a closing." The interviewers were shocked and were like "well...the closing is part of the interview..." I responded saying "looks like im done here. thank you for your time." Walked out.

Ladies and gentlemen, how not to be a prosecution/PD gunner.


I agree. It's how to be a badass and then go onto working at a law firm. Power suit, Power tie, Power steering.

cool story bro

also, I thought you didn't like people who were snobs about their jobs?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby MTBike » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:11 am

MoonDreamer wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
MoonDreamer wrote:I did a PD interview once. They did this mini-trial with me and gave me 10 minutes to come up with a closing. I was like "is this some sort of joke? I'm not doing a closing." The interviewers were shocked and were like "well...the closing is part of the interview..." I responded saying "looks like im done here. thank you for your time." Walked out.

Ladies and gentlemen, how not to be a prosecution/PD gunner.


I agree. It's how to be a badass and then go onto working at a law firm. Power suit, Power tie, Power steering.


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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Tanicius » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:51 am

MoonDreamer wrote:I did a PD interview once. They did this mini-trial with me and gave me 10 minutes to come up with a closing. I was like "is this some sort of joke? I'm not doing a closing." The interviewers were shocked and were like "well...the closing is part of the interview..." I responded saying "looks like im done here. thank you for your time." Walked out. I laughed at this PD office I interviewed with for assuming I wanted to help poor people or do any semblance of actual advocacy. Where are my models and bottles, amirite?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby gdane » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:08 am

MoonDreamer wrote:I agree. It's how to be a badass and then go onto working at a law firm. Power suit, Power tie, Power steering.

You remember how Hitch beat up Jeffrey Donovan's character for being such a douche, right? Don't be that dood that gets his face smashed in because he thinks he's better than everyone.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby target » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:42 pm

Borhas wrote:Sorry I don't know

My guess is yes to some extent, but not as much as if you were actually PD or legal aid work

Also depends on the project


I have a feeling that it will depend on the project too. I will ask the organizations that I am applying to and see what they say.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:18 pm

Anyone hear back from Riverside or SB PD?

Found out why Riverside PD had an opening: http://www.lawfuel.com/public-defender-surrenders/

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:12 am

If you are submitting a writing sample what's the rule on what to redact? case number? defendant's name? bar number? Aren't motions sort of public record?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Tanicius » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If you are submitting a writing sample what's the rule on what to redact? case number? defendant's name? bar number? Aren't motions sort of public record?


Ask your specific office.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Cinderella » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:53 pm

MoonDreamer wrote:I did a PD interview once. They did this mini-trial with me and gave me 10 minutes to come up with a closing. I was like "is this some sort of joke? I'm not doing a closing." The interviewers were shocked and were like "well...the closing is part of the interview..." I responded saying "looks like im done here. thank you for your time." Walked out.


You were so scared of doing a closing you walked out of the interview?

Yeah, I'd brag about that on the internet, too.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Borhas » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If you are submitting a writing sample what's the rule on what to redact? case number? defendant's name? bar number? Aren't motions sort of public record?


What I would redact

1. Everyone's name
2. All identifying facts
3. County
4. Court and case #

Just make names up if it makes it easier

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:35 am

Borhas wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:If you are submitting a writing sample what's the rule on what to redact? case number? defendant's name? bar number? Aren't motions sort of public record?


What I would redact

1. Everyone's name
2. All identifying facts
3. County
4. Court and case #

Just make names up if it makes it easier


So get rid of the statement of facts? I think I'll ask my office what their policy is-kinda awkward asking them though.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby lmr » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:39 am

Does anyone know what the Alameda post bar interview like? Do they only hire from their former interns and/or local schools? What about Contra Costa? These seem to be the only CA counties that interview post bars before December. Right?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Tanicius » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:33 am

lmr wrote:Does anyone know what the Alameda post bar interview like? Do they only hire from their former interns and/or local schools? What about Contra Costa? These seem to be the only CA counties that interview post bars before December. Right?


Alameda's probably going to be different than things have been in the past. They have a new head now.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Borhas » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:19 am

lmr wrote:Does anyone know what the Alameda post bar interview like? Do they only hire from their former interns and/or local schools? What about Contra Costa? These seem to be the only CA counties that interview post bars before December. Right?


They've tended to show a strong preference for former interns and diversity

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby dreakol » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:06 pm

0 for 3 on interview attempts with the Philly DA. dang. hopefully not a sign of things to come.

anyone have info on allegheny county DA?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:35 am

stupid question probably

should I bid for Cook's state attorney office if I don't meet the 3.0 gpa requirement?

I am just below it

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:49 pm

Confirmed: PDS isn't hiring this year.

Source: E-mail to PDS law clerks (summer interns), sent this week.

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby spleenworship » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Confirmed: PDS isn't hiring this year.

Source: E-mail to PDS law clerks (summer interns), sent this week.


Crap. I had a professor who worke there a long time and I was hoping a LOR from her might give me a bit of an "in.".

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby JRustle » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Confirmed: PDS isn't hiring this year.

Source: E-mail to PDS law clerks (summer interns), sent this week.


jfc. does this mean we should even bother applying for their summer program then?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Borhas » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Borhas wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:If you are submitting a writing sample what's the rule on what to redact? case number? defendant's name? bar number? Aren't motions sort of public record?


What I would redact

1. Everyone's name
2. All identifying facts
3. County
4. Court and case #

Just make names up if it makes it easier


So get rid of the statement of facts? I think I'll ask my office what their policy is-kinda awkward asking them though.


Not necessarily, make up names and use them instead of real ones

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby Borhas » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:02 pm

JRustle wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Confirmed: PDS isn't hiring this year.

Source: E-mail to PDS law clerks (summer interns), sent this week.


jfc. does this mean we should even bother applying for their summer program then?


Nah you still should

They might hire next year since they didn't take anyone this year

Unless you can get a job that hires its 2l summers or at least very strongly prefers its 2l summers AND hires regularly

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby adonai » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:15 pm

If you had only one choice between two classes, one being on how to evaluate/file criminal charges and cases and one with how to deal with counsel and witnesses in a criminal courtroom, which class would you take?

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Re: How to be a Prosecution/PD Gunner?

Postby jml8756 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:38 pm

adonai wrote:If you had only one choice between two classes, one being on how to evaluate/file criminal charges and cases and one with how to deal with counsel and witnesses in a criminal courtroom, which class would you take?


Those both sound like cool classes. I wish my school had offered stuff like that. The 2nd one sounds like it might have a more interactive component so I might lean toward that one, but I'm sure either would be fine.




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