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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby AlanShoreDisciple » Thu May 12, 2011 12:29 am

It's New York City.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby PKSebben » Thu May 12, 2011 12:30 am

kublaikahn wrote:
Renzo wrote:
PKSebben wrote:
mths wrote:Every time I go to NYC I fall in love all over again.


got a thing for people pissing on the streets, rats, shitty weather, ugly people, and trash smell, huh? Me too.

Psssh. People hardly ever piss in the streets.


Now, the subways stairs, that's a different matter...


NYC is the greatest city on earth. People who disagree can generally be found camping along a mosquito infested lake in the summer time. I know, judgmental as all get out.

I want to throw this out for discussion and advice. I have a friend who is a partner in a large firm and says that many of the shops in NYC (disclaimer:he worked in NYC but he's a CA guy) will pay well but have a very narrow track to partnership. They intend for most of their hires to leave by design and thus will grind you but not shape you. The few that they will move up are HYSCN or locally connected (you can read into that as you choose) He told me this when I suggested I trade down to Fordham. Your thoughts?


People are not elevated to partnership based on law school but rather how good of a lawyer they are and their ability to bring in clients. Law school as a variable on its own has absolutely no weight in partner elevation.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby BeenDidThat » Thu May 12, 2011 12:32 am

jdhopeful14 wrote:
jdhopeful14 wrote:
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I feel like this is an LSAT question...

The answer? They don't, it just seems like that because it is the largest market.

The amount of people that seem to 'favor' other markets over NYC is probably directly proportional to the size of those markets in comparison to NYC.


Uhhhhhhhh.....maybe it's the largest market because people favor it.


I really hope this is a joke and my sarcasm meter isn't working tonight.

Recent grad desires --> job creation? Yeah fucking right.



What does the fact that a market already exists have to do with "job creation"?

Stop equivocating as to the word "market".


Oh, you weren't joking. So you think that the fact that lawyers like New York leads to New York being the largest legal market? That's fucking hilarious.

I'm sure it doesn't have to do with New York being the financial capital of the world (shut up, London). Or New York housing 42 Fortune 500 company headquarters. Or the 8+ million people living in New York.

No, the New York legal market, part of the legal services industry, is instead so dominant in the U.S. because lawyers favor New York over such backwaters as Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, and Houston.
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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby sundance95 » Thu May 12, 2011 12:34 am

AlanShoreDisciple wrote:It's New York City.

You gotta love New York. Where else on Earth can you find a 12 million strong circle jerk? It's clearly one of the great cities of the world, yet it is the only one that constantly has to convince and remind itself that it really is. Why the inferiority complex?

Anyway, it's favored because it has the most jobs.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Thu May 12, 2011 12:37 am

The hope to one day have this view every morning:

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby sundance95 » Thu May 12, 2011 12:40 am

MrPapagiorgio wrote:The hope to one day have this view every morning:

--ImageRemoved--

Can any but the most successful lawyers hope to have this? This seems like C-level territory.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby Renzo » Thu May 12, 2011 12:43 am

sundance95 wrote:
AlanShoreDisciple wrote:It's New York City.

You gotta love New York. Where else on Earth can you find a 12 million strong circle jerk? It's clearly one of the great cities of the world, yet it is the only one that constantly has to convince and remind itself that it really is. Why the inferiority complex?

Anyway, it's favored because it has the most jobs.


Ok, there's no doubt that New Yorkers are some egotistical sons of bitches. But you have never been to Boston. The arrogance in that city is suffocating.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby sundance95 » Thu May 12, 2011 12:44 am

^ Hahaha truf

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby jdhopeful14 » Thu May 12, 2011 12:44 am

Oh, you weren't joking. So you think that the fact that lawyers like New York leads to New York being the largest legal market? That's fucking hilarious.

I'm sure it doesn't have to do with New York being the financial capital of the world (shut up, London). Or New York housing 42 Fortune 500 company headquarters. Or the 8+ million people living in New York.

No, the New York legal market, part of the legal services industry, is instead so dominant in the U.S. because lawyers favor New York over such backwaters as Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, and Houston.


Yes, lawyers favor nyc precisely for the reasons you stated. And that leads to nyc being the largest market.

You agreed with me without knowing it. LOL at that.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby sundance95 » Thu May 12, 2011 12:46 am

jdhopeful14 wrote:
Oh, you weren't joking. So you think that the fact that lawyers like New York leads to New York being the largest legal market? That's fucking hilarious.

I'm sure it doesn't have to do with New York being the financial capital of the world (shut up, London). Or New York housing 42 Fortune 500 company headquarters. Or the 8+ million people living in New York.

No, the New York legal market, part of the legal services industry, is instead so dominant in the U.S. because lawyers favor New York over such backwaters as Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, and Houston.


Yes, lawyers favor nyc precisely for the reasons you stated. And that leads to nyc being the largest market.

You agreed with me without knowing it. LOL at that.

The chasm is strong with this one.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby PKSebben » Thu May 12, 2011 12:48 am

BeenDidThat wrote:
jdhopeful14 wrote:
jdhopeful14 wrote:
Quote:
I feel like this is an LSAT question...

The answer? They don't, it just seems like that because it is the largest market.

The amount of people that seem to 'favor' other markets over NYC is probably directly proportional to the size of those markets in comparison to NYC.


Uhhhhhhhh.....maybe it's the largest market because people favor it.


I really hope this is a joke and my sarcasm meter isn't working tonight.

Recent grad desires --> job creation? Yeah fucking right.



What does the fact that a market already exists have to do with "job creation"?

Stop equivocating as to the word "market".


Oh, you weren't joking. So you think that the fact that lawyers like New York leads to New York being the largest legal market? That's fucking hilarious.

I'm sure it doesn't have to do with New York being the financial capital of the world (shut up, London). Or New York housing 42 Fortune 500 company headquarters. Or the 8+ million people living in New York.

No, the New York legal market, part of the legal services industry, is instead so dominant in the U.S. because lawyers favor New York over such backwaters as Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, and Houston.


Second prize for best comment in this thread. You may collect your tickets at the glass counter. You have enough for a plastic spider ring.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby PKSebben » Thu May 12, 2011 12:49 am

Renzo wrote:
sundance95 wrote:
AlanShoreDisciple wrote:It's New York City.

You gotta love New York. Where else on Earth can you find a 12 million strong circle jerk? It's clearly one of the great cities of the world, yet it is the only one that constantly has to convince and remind itself that it really is. Why the inferiority complex?

Anyway, it's favored because it has the most jobs.


Ok, there's no doubt that New Yorkers are some egotistical sons of bitches. But you have never been to Boston. The arrogance in that city is suffocating.


My bro lives in Cambridge. I want to kill everyone there. My brother is on the bubble.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby BeenDidThat » Thu May 12, 2011 12:50 am

PKSebben wrote:
BeenDidThat wrote:
jdhopeful14 wrote:
jdhopeful14 wrote:
Quote:
I feel like this is an LSAT question...

The answer? They don't, it just seems like that because it is the largest market.

The amount of people that seem to 'favor' other markets over NYC is probably directly proportional to the size of those markets in comparison to NYC.


Uhhhhhhhh.....maybe it's the largest market because people favor it.


I really hope this is a joke and my sarcasm meter isn't working tonight.

Recent grad desires --> job creation? Yeah fucking right.



What does the fact that a market already exists have to do with "job creation"?

Stop equivocating as to the word "market".


Oh, you weren't joking. So you think that the fact that lawyers like New York leads to New York being the largest legal market? That's fucking hilarious.

I'm sure it doesn't have to do with New York being the financial capital of the world (shut up, London). Or New York housing 42 Fortune 500 company headquarters. Or the 8+ million people living in New York.

No, the New York legal market, part of the legal services industry, is instead so dominant in the U.S. because lawyers favor New York over such backwaters as Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, and Houston.


Second prize for best comment in this thread. You may collect your tickets at the glass counter. You have enough for a plastic spider ring.


:D :D :D

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby rayiner » Thu May 12, 2011 12:52 am

MrPapagiorgio wrote:The hope to one day have this view every morning:

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Of a dirty patch of land surrounded by dirty old buildings?

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby PKSebben » Thu May 12, 2011 12:53 am

sundance95 wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:The hope to one day have this view every morning:

--ImageRemoved--

Can any but the most successful lawyers hope to have this? This seems like C-level territory.


The tippy top partners at my firm that actually live in new york do not have park views.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby PKSebben » Thu May 12, 2011 12:54 am

rayiner wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:The hope to one day have this view every morning:

--ImageRemoved--


Of a dirty patch of land surrounded by dirty old buildings?


Also credited. But don't you live in DC? If so, fuck you.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby sundance95 » Thu May 12, 2011 12:55 am

PKSebben wrote:
rayiner wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:The hope to one day have this view every morning:

[img]


Of a dirty patch of land surrounded by dirty old buildings?


Also credited. But don't you live in DC? If so, fuck you.

^ Hahaha, as a DCer, this is very credited.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby rayiner » Thu May 12, 2011 12:56 am

NYC isn't the largest legal market b/c lawyers prefer it. Lawyers will go anywhere that'll give them a job and a chance to pay off their crushing student loans. NYC is the largest legal market b/c:

a) Corporate law greatly jacks up the body count of the legal profession;
b) The financial services firms for which corporate lawyers do bitch work are located, by historical circumstance*, in NYC.

*) NYC's position as a major harbor and commercial hub for hundreds of years.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Thu May 12, 2011 12:58 am

DC sounds great and all, but I would kill myself if I had to hear people calling trains the "metro"

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby PKSebben » Thu May 12, 2011 12:59 am

rayiner wrote:NYC isn't the largest legal market b/c lawyers prefer it. Lawyers will go anywhere that'll give them a job and a chance to pay off their crushing student loans. NYC is the largest legal market b/c:

a) Corporate law greatly jacks up the body count of the legal profession;
b) The financial services firms for which corporate lawyers do bitch work are located, by historical circumstance*, in NYC.

*) NYC's position as a major harbor and commercial hub for hundreds of years.


Respond to my blistering zinger, you trollop!

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby PKSebben » Thu May 12, 2011 1:00 am

MrPapagiorgio wrote:DC sounds great and all, but I would kill myself if I had to hear people calling trains the "metro"


facist fucking train won't let me eat ice cream on it. Fuck you, DC.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby dood » Thu May 12, 2011 1:00 am

mjitbswyd wrote:I am not a US citizen, so maybe it's something cultural I dont understand, but why do most people favor NYC biglaw over other firms in lower-cost cities that also pay 160k?

thanks!


cause NYC is home to 50 cent, nas, jayZ, wu-tang, and biggie (RIP). thats culture.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby sundance95 » Thu May 12, 2011 1:00 am

PKSebben wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:DC sounds great and all, but I would kill myself if I had to hear people calling trains the "metro"


facist fucking train won't let me eat ice cream on it. Fuck you, DC.

TBF, that's why it's not full of rats, nor smells like feces.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby PKSebben » Thu May 12, 2011 1:01 am

dood wrote:
mjitbswyd wrote:I am not a US citizen, so maybe it's something cultural I dont understand, but why do most people favor NYC biglaw over other firms in lower-cost cities that also pay 160k?

thanks!


cause NYC is home to 50 cent, nas, jayZ, wu-tang, and biggie (RIP). thats culture.


dood continues to impress. 4 tickets. you may buy some laffy taffy.

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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?

Postby Patriot1208 » Thu May 12, 2011 1:01 am

PKSebben wrote:
sundance95 wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:The hope to one day have this view every morning:

--ImageRemoved--

Can any but the most successful lawyers hope to have this? This seems like C-level territory.


The tippy top partners at my firm that actually live in new york do not have park views.

A standard living space with that view is like 4-5 million bucks. I doubt there are very many lawyers who can afford a 4-5 million dollar apartment.




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