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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby KMaine » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:40 am

rad law wrote:
FiveSermon wrote:If Cornell goes up immay go there


About 40% for class of 2011. See ATL.


All indications are that 2012 should be pretty strong.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby Trequartista » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:53 am

I really don't understand all the hate for Cornell on TLS. It has historically placed on par with MVPDN. 2009 was an anomaly, I think it is safe to say, and everyone had it bad in 2011. Cornell will probably have strong numbers for C/O 2012 and onwards.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby KMaine » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:58 am

nael wrote:I really don't understand all the hate for Cornell on TLS. It has historically placed on par with MVPDN. 2009 was an anomaly, I think it is safe to say, and everyone had it bad in 2011. Cornell will probably have strong numbers for C/O 2012 and onwards.


People are very impressed that their 1 extra LSAT point got them in at Northwestern, Michigan, or Virginia, and hating on Cornell makes them feel special.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby drylo » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:02 am

nael wrote:I really don't understand all the hate for Cornell on TLS. It has historically placed on par with MVPDN. 2009 was an anomaly, I think it is safe to say, and everyone had it bad in 2011. Cornell will probably have strong numbers for C/O 2012 and onwards.


It's simple, really. Cornell is very expensive (with relatively little scholarship money) and doesn't deliver sufficiently better placement than other schools (if at all, depending on the school and year) to justify the price tag. The biggest (only?) advantage about Cornell (if you are into NYC biglaw) is that a lot of NY firms will do OCI at Cornell. The flip side is that if you don't want to work in NYC, there is nothing attractive about Cornell. At all.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby beachbum » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:18 pm

drylo wrote:
nael wrote:I really don't understand all the hate for Cornell on TLS. It has historically placed on par with MVPDN. 2009 was an anomaly, I think it is safe to say, and everyone had it bad in 2011. Cornell will probably have strong numbers for C/O 2012 and onwards.


It's simple, really. Cornell is very expensive (with relatively little scholarship money) and doesn't deliver sufficiently better placement than other schools (if at all, depending on the school and year) to justify the price tag. The biggest (only?) advantage about Cornell (if you are into NYC biglaw) is that a lot of NY firms will do OCI at Cornell. The flip side is that if you don't want to work in NYC, there is nothing attractive about Cornell. At all.


Also, Ithaca.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby Trequartista » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:25 pm

beachbum wrote:
drylo wrote:
nael wrote:I really don't understand all the hate for Cornell on TLS. It has historically placed on par with MVPDN. 2009 was an anomaly, I think it is safe to say, and everyone had it bad in 2011. Cornell will probably have strong numbers for C/O 2012 and onwards.


It's simple, really. Cornell is very expensive (with relatively little scholarship money) and doesn't deliver sufficiently better placement than other schools (if at all, depending on the school and year) to justify the price tag. The biggest (only?) advantage about Cornell (if you are into NYC biglaw) is that a lot of NY firms will do OCI at Cornell. The flip side is that if you don't want to work in NYC, there is nothing attractive about Cornell. At all.


Also, Ithaca.


Is it just me or is the idea of not living in a bit city not that bad?

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby sonervous88 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:27 pm

nael wrote:
beachbum wrote:
drylo wrote:
nael wrote:I really don't understand all the hate for Cornell on TLS. It has historically placed on par with MVPDN. 2009 was an anomaly, I think it is safe to say, and everyone had it bad in 2011. Cornell will probably have strong numbers for C/O 2012 and onwards.


It's simple, really. Cornell is very expensive (with relatively little scholarship money) and doesn't deliver sufficiently better placement than other schools (if at all, depending on the school and year) to justify the price tag. The biggest (only?) advantage about Cornell (if you are into NYC biglaw) is that a lot of NY firms will do OCI at Cornell. The flip side is that if you don't want to work in NYC, there is nothing attractive about Cornell. At all.


Also, Ithaca.


Is it just me or is the idea of not living in a bit city not that bad?


I actually think its a plus for Ithaca as well. I've lived next to nyc for years and i'm seriously considerng cornell over columbia and nyu

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby beachbum » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:29 pm

nael wrote:
beachbum wrote:
drylo wrote:
nael wrote:I really don't understand all the hate for Cornell on TLS. It has historically placed on par with MVPDN. 2009 was an anomaly, I think it is safe to say, and everyone had it bad in 2011. Cornell will probably have strong numbers for C/O 2012 and onwards.


It's simple, really. Cornell is very expensive (with relatively little scholarship money) and doesn't deliver sufficiently better placement than other schools (if at all, depending on the school and year) to justify the price tag. The biggest (only?) advantage about Cornell (if you are into NYC biglaw) is that a lot of NY firms will do OCI at Cornell. The flip side is that if you don't want to work in NYC, there is nothing attractive about Cornell. At all.


Also, Ithaca.


Is it just me or is the idea of not living in a bit city not that bad?


The big city thing doesn't bother me. (Hell, I'm moving to Durham). The frozen tundra is the main issue.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:06 pm

drylo wrote:
nael wrote:I really don't understand all the hate for Cornell on TLS. It has historically placed on par with MVPDN. 2009 was an anomaly, I think it is safe to say, and everyone had it bad in 2011. Cornell will probably have strong numbers for C/O 2012 and onwards.


It's simple, really. Cornell is very expensive (with relatively little scholarship money) and doesn't deliver sufficiently better placement than other schools (if at all, depending on the school and year) to justify the price tag. The biggest (only?) advantage about Cornell (if you are into NYC biglaw) is that a lot of NY firms will do OCI at Cornell. The flip side is that if you don't want to work in NYC, there is nothing attractive about Cornell. At all.


I agree Cornell is expensive. But placement wise it's right up there with MVPDB. Look at every single year's data except class of 2009 and it will support this. 2011 will be a slaughter for almost every school and 2012 is when we should see some stabilization.

Regarding the price tag, while it is true, the price tag is fairly similar to most private non-state schools. Out of the T14 it may be the first or 2nd most expensive school but the difference between first and 7th is something like 2-4k a year? It's not significant.

The only real complaint I see against Cornell is it's location. I think we can all agree Ithaca is not for everyone. But then neither is SoCal or Nashville. I don't see many objections against schools in SoCal or Nashville because of this.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby jay115 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:20 pm

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drylo wrote:
nael wrote:I really don't understand all the hate for Cornell on TLS. It has historically placed on par with MVPDN. 2009 was an anomaly, I think it is safe to say, and everyone had it bad in 2011. Cornell will probably have strong numbers for C/O 2012 and onwards.


It's simple, really. Cornell is very expensive (with relatively little scholarship money) and doesn't deliver sufficiently better placement than other schools (if at all, depending on the school and year) to justify the price tag. The biggest (only?) advantage about Cornell (if you are into NYC biglaw) is that a lot of NY firms will do OCI at Cornell. The flip side is that if you don't want to work in NYC, there is nothing attractive about Cornell. At all.


I agree Cornell is expensive. But placement wise it's right up there with MVPDB. Look at every single year's data except class of 2009 and it will support this. 2011 will be a slaughter for almost every school and 2012 is when we should see some stabilization.

Regarding the price tag, while it is true, the price tag is fairly similar to most private non-state schools. Out of the T14 it may be the first or 2nd most expensive school but the difference between first and 7th is something like 2-4k a year? It's not significant.

The only real complaint I see against Cornell is it's location. I think we can all agree Ithaca is not for everyone. But then neither is SoCal or Nashville. I don't see many objections against schools in SoCal or Nashville because of this.


Well, I don't think UCLA, USC, or Pepperdine had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the pacific ocean.

But you're right - it is a preference thing. Some people prefer to live in frozen narnia, whereas others would rather live in paradise.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby JusticeHarlan » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:07 pm

nael wrote:
beachbum wrote:
drylo wrote:
nael wrote:I really don't understand all the hate for Cornell on TLS. It has historically placed on par with MVPDN. 2009 was an anomaly, I think it is safe to say, and everyone had it bad in 2011. Cornell will probably have strong numbers for C/O 2012 and onwards.


It's simple, really. Cornell is very expensive (with relatively little scholarship money) and doesn't deliver sufficiently better placement than other schools (if at all, depending on the school and year) to justify the price tag. The biggest (only?) advantage about Cornell (if you are into NYC biglaw) is that a lot of NY firms will do OCI at Cornell. The flip side is that if you don't want to work in NYC, there is nothing attractive about Cornell. At all.


Also, Ithaca.


Is it just me or is the idea of not living in a bit city not that bad?

QF never been to Ithaca.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby los blancos » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:08 pm

beachbum wrote:The big city thing doesn't bother me. (Hell, I'm moving to Durham). The frozen tundra is the main issue.



This. You don't see the big city thing stopping people from going to Charlottesville.

(welcome to Duke btw)

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby motiontodismiss » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:31 pm

jay115 wrote:
Well, I don't think UCLA, USC, or Pepperdine had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the pacific ocean.

But you're right - it is a preference thing. Some people prefer to live in frozen narnia, whereas others would rather live in paradise.


UCLA/USC/Pepperdine may not have had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the Pacific, but they'll have to give out bulletproof vests to keep kids from dying when they get shot. And besides, I don't think paradise has gang wars, smog and 24/7 rush hour traffic. Oh and did I mention the shitty employment market in CA?

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

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motiontodismiss wrote:
jay115 wrote:
Well, I don't think UCLA, USC, or Pepperdine had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the pacific ocean.

But you're right - it is a preference thing. Some people prefer to live in frozen narnia, whereas others would rather live in paradise.


UCLA/USC/Pepperdine may not have had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the Pacific, but they'll have to give out bulletproof vests to keep kids from dying when they get shot. And besides, I don't think paradise has gang wars, smog and 24/7 rush hour traffic. Oh and did I mention the shitty employment market in CA?


Right, because kids are really getting shot at by gangs in Beverly Hills/Westwood and Malibu, CA. These crazy LA millionaires are truly hoods.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby beachbum » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:30 pm

jay115 wrote:
motiontodismiss wrote:
jay115 wrote:
Well, I don't think UCLA, USC, or Pepperdine had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the pacific ocean.

But you're right - it is a preference thing. Some people prefer to live in frozen narnia, whereas others would rather live in paradise.


UCLA/USC/Pepperdine may not have had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the Pacific, but they'll have to give out bulletproof vests to keep kids from dying when they get shot. And besides, I don't think paradise has gang wars, smog and 24/7 rush hour traffic. Oh and did I mention the shitty employment market in CA?


Right, because kids are really getting shot at by gangs in Beverly Hills/Westwood and Malibu, CA. These crazy LA millionaires are truly hoods.


+1. I'll give you the shitty traffic and occasional smog, but gang violence affecting UCLA and Pepperdine? lolwut. Give me Westwood over Ithaca any day of the week.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

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jay115 wrote:
motiontodismiss wrote:
jay115 wrote:
Well, I don't think UCLA, USC, or Pepperdine had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the pacific ocean.

But you're right - it is a preference thing. Some people prefer to live in frozen narnia, whereas others would rather live in paradise.


UCLA/USC/Pepperdine may not have had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the Pacific, but they'll have to give out bulletproof vests to keep kids from dying when they get shot. And besides, I don't think paradise has gang wars, smog and 24/7 rush hour traffic. Oh and did I mention the shitty employment market in CA?


Right, because kids are really getting shot at by gangs in Beverly Hills/Westwood and Malibu, CA. These crazy LA millionaires are truly hoods.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby motiontodismiss » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:20 pm

beachbum wrote:
jay115 wrote:
motiontodismiss wrote:
jay115 wrote:
Well, I don't think UCLA, USC, or Pepperdine had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the pacific ocean.

But you're right - it is a preference thing. Some people prefer to live in frozen narnia, whereas others would rather live in paradise.


UCLA/USC/Pepperdine may not have had to erect nets to keep kids from jumping into the Pacific, but they'll have to give out bulletproof vests to keep kids from dying when they get shot. And besides, I don't think paradise has gang wars, smog and 24/7 rush hour traffic. Oh and did I mention the shitty employment market in CA?


Right, because kids are really getting shot at by gangs in Beverly Hills/Westwood and Malibu, CA. These crazy LA millionaires are truly hoods.


+1. I'll give you the shitty traffic and occasional smog, but gang violence affecting UCLA and Pepperdine? lolwut. Give me Westwood over Ithaca any day of the week.


I'll take snow 9 months a year over the pretentious bastards that think SoCal is the only livable place in the entire world any day of the week, twice on saturday and thrice on sunday. Oh and did I mention Lindsay Lohan still has her driver's license? Have fun trying not to get run over by a drunk/high/coked-up celebrity.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby beachbum » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:48 pm

motiontodismiss wrote:I'll take snow 9 months a year over the pretentious bastards that think SoCal is the only livable place in the entire world any day of the week, twice on saturday and thrice on sunday. Oh and did I mention Lindsay Lohan still has her driver's license? Have fun trying not to get run over by a drunk/high/coked-up celebrity.


lol, I'll do my best. Just watch out for those polar bears, bro.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby Trequartista » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:57 am

It doesn't snow 9 months a year in Ithaca does it?

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby beachbum » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:06 am

nael wrote:It doesn't snow 9 months a year in Ithaca does it?


Pictured: Ithaca in July.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby Trequartista » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:17 am

beachbum wrote:
nael wrote:It doesn't snow 9 months a year in Ithaca does it?


Pictured: Ithaca in July.

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:lol:

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby motiontodismiss » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:21 pm

beachbum wrote:
motiontodismiss wrote:I'll take snow 9 months a year over the pretentious bastards that think SoCal is the only livable place in the entire world any day of the week, twice on saturday and thrice on sunday. Oh and did I mention Lindsay Lohan still has her driver's license? Have fun trying not to get run over by a drunk/high/coked-up celebrity.


lol, I'll do my best. Just watch out for those polar bears, bro.


I'll keep my shotgun close.

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby Ikki » Thu May 19, 2011 4:57 pm

Has anyone figured out why NYU fared so badly?

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby Bobeo » Sat May 21, 2011 2:45 am

As someone from Indiana considering IUB next year, what is the deal?

Is attending IUB ever a good idea?

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Re: 2011 Top 50 Go-To Law Schools

Postby mpard84 » Sat May 21, 2011 4:27 am

Hmmm....

I knew I should have gone to UGA or Seton Hall. Or maybe Wake Forest.

You know the problem with this site? Not enough lists! More lists!!!!

Bullshit.

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