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What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby donzoli » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:19 pm

Where is the cut-off for biglaw? Is it every firm in NLJ 250 biglaw?

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby Lawl Shcool » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:30 pm

I would say NLJ 250 + any firm paying at or near market for the city. So in Ohio for example it would be any firm that paid over 100k.

For me the "big" in "biglaw" is big money.

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby JazzOne » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:35 pm

Lawl Shcool wrote:I would say NLJ 250 + any firm paying at or near market for the city. So in Ohio for example it would be any firm that paid over 100k.

For me the "big" in "biglaw" is big money.

+1

I agree with this, but I think some people might be specifically targeting big firms or big prestige. I'm personally a lot more excited about above-market salary.

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby A'nold » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:41 pm

Who cares? You could call it fecal law and I'd gladly work there for a nice salary.

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby JazzOne » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:46 pm

A'nold wrote:Who cares? You could call it fecal law and I'd gladly work there for a nice salary.

Yeah, I'm studying that in my Air & Water course.

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:49 pm

The only reasonable argument would be from about $20,000 below market to infinity.

Thus in NYC, $140,000+

In New Orleans, $70,000+

In Jackson and Birmingham, $85,000+

In Atlanta, $120,000+

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby Fark-o-vision » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:49 pm

I can see people caring in so far as it applies to conversation. no one wants to look like a dick head by using a phrase wrong.

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby haus » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:51 pm

And all this time I thought that people were referring to law firms with very large lawyers. :)

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:53 pm

haus wrote:And all this time I thought that people were referring to law firms with very large lawyers. :)

Hulklaw?

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby JazzOne » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:53 pm

haus wrote:And all this time I thought that people were referring to law firms with very large lawyers. :)

lol

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby Fark-o-vision » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:53 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:The only reasonable argument would be from about $20,000 below market to infinity.

Thus in NYC, $140,000+

In New Orleans, $70,000+

In Jackson and Birmingham, $85,000+

In Atlanta, $120,000+


This can't be quite right, can it? Small firm with market or above salary= generally accepted definition of boutique, right?

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby JazzOne » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:54 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:
haus wrote:And all this time I thought that people were referring to law firms with very large lawyers. :)

Hulklaw?

Fat law baby!

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby JazzOne » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:55 pm

Fark-o-vision wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:The only reasonable argument would be from about $20,000 below market to infinity.

Thus in NYC, $140,000+

In New Orleans, $70,000+

In Jackson and Birmingham, $85,000+

In Atlanta, $120,000+


This can't be quite right, can it? Small firm with market or above salary= generally accepted definition of boutique, right?

Yes, but are high-paying boutiques biglaw?

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby A'nold » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:55 pm

haus wrote:And all this time I thought that people were referring to law firms with very large lawyers. :)

6 foot 4, 250ish pounds?

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby JazzOne » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:57 pm

donzoli wrote:Where is the cut-off for biglaw? Is it every firm in NLJ 250 biglaw?

Funny 'tar too.

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:09 am

JazzOne wrote:
Fark-o-vision wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:The only reasonable argument would be from about $20,000 below market to infinity.

Thus in NYC, $140,000+

In New Orleans, $70,000+

In Jackson and Birmingham, $85,000+

In Atlanta, $120,000+


This can't be quite right, can it? Small firm with market or above salary= generally accepted definition of boutique, right?

Yes, but are high-paying boutiques biglaw?

Isn't "biglaw" large firms with hundreds of lawyers in multiple cities (and sometimes across continents) that pays associates models and bottles-type money? And a boutique a small-firm with a specialty that commands those high salaries (and thus differentiating them from shitlaw)?

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby HugerThanSoup » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:14 am

MrPapagiorgio wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
Fark-o-vision wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:The only reasonable argument would be from about $20,000 below market to infinity.

Thus in NYC, $140,000+

In New Orleans, $70,000+

In Jackson and Birmingham, $85,000+

In Atlanta, $120,000+


This can't be quite right, can it? Small firm with market or above salary= generally accepted definition of boutique, right?

Yes, but are high-paying boutiques biglaw?

Isn't "biglaw" large firms with hundreds of lawyers in multiple cities (and sometimes across continents) that pays associates models and bottles-type money? And a boutique a small-firm with a specialty that commands those high salaries (and thus differentiating them from shitlaw)?


Yes, high-paying boutique =/= "biglaw."

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby JazzOne » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:21 am

HugerThanSoup wrote:Yes, high-paying boutique =/= "biglaw."

Damn it. I wanted biglaw so bad.

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby haus » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:58 am

A'nold wrote:
haus wrote:And all this time I thought that people were referring to law firms with very large lawyers. :)

6 foot 4, 250ish pounds?


Shucks, I am only 6' 1", 260 lbs (a splitter, if you will). Maybe some of my interesting work experience would convince a 'BigLaw' firm to give me a chance...

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby Stonewall » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:01 am

Any job that allows me to payoff my loans in a reasonable amount of time.

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby haus » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:03 am

Stonewall wrote:Any job that allows me to payoff my loans in a reasonable amount of time.


Keeping Me Out Of Debtors Prison Law.

KMOODP Law

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby fatduck » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:08 am

at least this big:

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby Stonewall » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:11 am

haus wrote:
Stonewall wrote:Any job that allows me to payoff my loans in a reasonable amount of time.


Keeping Me Out Of Debtors Prison Law.

KMOODP Law


uhh sure?

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby A'nold » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:23 am

haus wrote:
A'nold wrote:
haus wrote:And all this time I thought that people were referring to law firms with very large lawyers. :)

6 foot 4, 250ish pounds?


Shucks, I am only 6' 1", 260 lbs (a splitter, if you will). Maybe some of my interesting work experience would convince a 'BigLaw' firm to give me a chance...

I don't know man.....at least you are on the good side of the splitter continuum. You basically have no shot as a 6'7, 185 pounder.

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Re: What do you consider Biglaw?

Postby UCLAtransfer » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:40 am

A'nold wrote:
haus wrote:
A'nold wrote:
haus wrote:And all this time I thought that people were referring to law firms with very large lawyers. :)

6 foot 4, 250ish pounds?


Shucks, I am only 6' 1", 260 lbs (a splitter, if you will). Maybe some of my interesting work experience would convince a 'BigLaw' firm to give me a chance...

I don't know man.....at least you are on the good side of the splitter continuum. You basically have no shot as a 6'7, 185 pounder.


ED?




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