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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby rman1201 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:38 pm

blink wrote:would state legislatures ever take this issue on?


No.
It would have to come from the ABA.
Even if there was something the states could do I'm guessing it would only affect public schools, and why would they eliminate those when they profit off them?

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby flcath » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:39 pm

A'nold wrote:
OGR3 wrote:
A'nold wrote:It would be cool to see what the profession would be like if, by law, there could only be 100 law schools in the country, each state being allowed at least 1. There would still be multiple law schools in CA and probably TX but wouldn't it be cool if, say, all of the Florida schools but UF and maybe FSU were cut?


The only way I'd be okay with something like this is if Cooley was still allowed to stay open.


Of course Cooley could stay open. It could admit all of the sub 164's out there and make us all compete with each other for the honor of getting to 2L year.

It could admit like 13,000 students and leave spots open for like 400. Then the ABA could make money off of the t.v. reality show rights and we could all live in overpopulated co-ed dorms w/ unlimited alcohol. Hello MTV smash hit.

**eyes light up with thoughts of Infilaw expanding into the entertainment market**

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby blink » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:42 pm

I guess I really don't understand why the ABA isn't more like the AAMC (hope i have the acronym right). Wouldn't more people benefit from increased admissions standards to fewer schools? There would be no "risk" with debt and students would know whether law was for them BEFORE bombing out of law school...

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby Nicholas Nickleby » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:43 pm

A'nold wrote:Let's figure this out b/c I'm bored. I also have to change my opinion that every state gets one b/c there are a few where it makes no sense.:

Alabama 1. U. of Alabama
Alaska ?????? Maybe but I'll just assume out.
Arizona 2. U. of Arizona
Arkansas 3. Arkansas-Fayetteville
California 4. Stanford, 5. Berkeley, 6. UCLA, I'm adding USC at the bottom.
Colorado 7. UC-Boulder
Connecticut 8. UConn, lol, I forgot to add Yale.
Delaware ?????
Florida 9. UF, 10. FSU
Georgia 11. Emory, 12. UGA
Hawaii 13. Hawaii (this one was a maybe but the classes are pretty small)
Idaho 14. U. of Idaho
Illinois 15. U. of Chicago, 16. Northwestern, 17. UIUC
Indiana 18. Indiana
Iowa 19. Iowa
Kansas 20. Kansas
Kentucky 21. Kentucky
Louisiana 22. Tulane (based on history, but this is up for debate b/c LSU is a state school). For now I will include LSU as well. 23. LSU
Maine- 24. U. of Maine
Maryland- 25. GULC, 26. GWU, 27. Maryland
Massachusetts- 28. Harvard, 29. BU, 30. BC
Michigan- 31. U. of Michigan
Minnesota- 32. Minn
Mississippi- 33. Ole Miss
Missouri- 34. WUSTL, 35. Mizzou
Montana- 36. Montana
Nebraska- 37. Nebraska
Nevada- 38. UNLV
New Hampshire ??????
New Jersey- 39. Pick one of the Rutgers.
New Mexico- 40. New Mexico
New York- 41. Columbia, 42. NYU, 43. Fordham, forgot to add Cornell.
North Carolina 44. Duke, 45. UNC
North Dakota 46. North Dakota
Ohio 47. OSU, 48. Cinci
Oklahoma- 49. Oklahoma
Oregon- 50. Oregon
Pennsylvania- 51. Penn, 52. Temple
Rhode Island-???????
South Carolina- 53. USC
South Dakota- 54. South Dakota
Tennessee- 55. Vandy, 56. U. of Tennessee
Texas- 57. UT, 58. Houston (no offense to SMU)
Utah- 59. BYU, 60. U. of Utah
Vermont- ?????? I don't like how expensive U. of Vermont is. Maybe a state school for NH, VT.
Virginia- 61. UVA, 62. William and Mary, 63. Washington & Lee
Washington- 64. UW
West Virginia- 65. WVU
Wisconsin- 66. U. of Wisconsin
Wyoming- 67. Wyoming
68. I forgot to add USC under CA.
69. Yale.
70. Cornell.

I know I forgot some but here you go, 70 or so law schools.


I do like your idea of doing away with all of the D.C. schools....

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby blink » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:44 pm

Nicholas Nickleby wrote:
A'nold wrote:Let's figure this out b/c I'm bored. I also have to change my opinion that every state gets one b/c there are a few where it makes no sense.:

Alabama 1. U. of Alabama
Alaska ?????? Maybe but I'll just assume out.
Arizona 2. U. of Arizona
Arkansas 3. Arkansas-Fayetteville
California 4. Stanford, 5. Berkeley, 6. UCLA, I'm adding USC at the bottom.
Colorado 7. UC-Boulder
Connecticut 8. UConn, lol, I forgot to add Yale.
Delaware ?????
Florida 9. UF, 10. FSU
Georgia 11. Emory, 12. UGA
Hawaii 13. Hawaii (this one was a maybe but the classes are pretty small)
Idaho 14. U. of Idaho
Illinois 15. U. of Chicago, 16. Northwestern, 17. UIUC
Indiana 18. Indiana
Iowa 19. Iowa
Kansas 20. Kansas
Kentucky 21. Kentucky
Louisiana 22. Tulane (based on history, but this is up for debate b/c LSU is a state school). For now I will include LSU as well. 23. LSU
Maine- 24. U. of Maine
Maryland- 25. GULC, 26. GWU, 27. Maryland
Massachusetts- 28. Harvard, 29. BU, 30. BC
Michigan- 31. U. of Michigan
Minnesota- 32. Minn
Mississippi- 33. Ole Miss
Missouri- 34. WUSTL, 35. Mizzou
Montana- 36. Montana
Nebraska- 37. Nebraska
Nevada- 38. UNLV
New Hampshire ??????
New Jersey- 39. Pick one of the Rutgers.
New Mexico- 40. New Mexico
New York- 41. Columbia, 42. NYU, 43. Fordham, forgot to add Cornell.
North Carolina 44. Duke, 45. UNC
North Dakota 46. North Dakota
Ohio 47. OSU, 48. Cinci
Oklahoma- 49. Oklahoma
Oregon- 50. Oregon
Pennsylvania- 51. Penn, 52. Temple
Rhode Island-???????
South Carolina- 53. USC
South Dakota- 54. South Dakota
Tennessee- 55. Vandy, 56. U. of Tennessee
Texas- 57. UT, 58. Houston (no offense to SMU)
Utah- 59. BYU, 60. U. of Utah
Vermont- ?????? I don't like how expensive U. of Vermont is. Maybe a state school for NH, VT.
Virginia- 61. UVA, 62. William and Mary, 63. Washington & Lee
Washington- 64. UW
West Virginia- 65. WVU
Wisconsin- 66. U. of Wisconsin
Wyoming- 67. Wyoming
68. I forgot to add USC under CA.
69. Yale.
70. Cornell.

I know I forgot some but here you go, 70 or so law schools.


I do like your idea of doing away with all of the D.C. schools....



See: Maryland

HTH

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby thesealocust » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:55 pm

uh, before everyone gets too excited, check out

http://www.justice.gov/atr/public/press ... 5/0257.htm

Basically the ABA settled by promising to only use its accrediting powers for good instead of evil. There's about a 0% chance the ABA will ever try to restrict the supply of law students.

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby A'nold » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:57 pm

Here is what the t100 would look like: (Sorry, I'm not going to take the time to erase the stats.)
Law School Rankings

1 1 Yale U (CT) 3 1 3.82-3.96 170-176 7.3
2 2 Harvard U (MA) 1 2* 3.76-3.96 171-176 11.0
3 3 Stanford U (CA) 6 4 3.77-3.97 167-172 8.0
4 4 Columbia U (NY) 7 5 3.60-3.81 170-175 10.1
5 6* U Chicago 4 2* 3.63-3.84 169-173 9.5
6 5 New York U 11 6 3.57-3.86 169-173 9.4
7* 6* UC Berkeley (Boalt) 5 7 3.68-3.95 165-170 11.4
7* 8 U Pennsylvania 9 11 3.57-3.90 166-171 10.7
9 9 U Michigan-Ann Arbor 2 8 3.55-3.84 167-170 11.3
10 10* U Virginia 16 10 3.54-3.92 165-171 12.6
11* 10* Duke U (NC) 8 17 3.60-3.84 167-171 9.7
11* 10* Northwestern U (IL) 14 14* 3.40-3.81 166-172 8.8
13 13 Cornell U (NY) 10 14* 3.50-3.80 165-168 10.0
14 14 Georgetown U (DC) 17 12 3.42-3.79 167-171 12.4
15* 15* UCLA 13 14* 3.57-3.88 164-169 11.3
15* 15* U Texas-Austin 12 10* 3.54-3.87 164-168 11.3
17 17 Vanderbilt U (TN) 15 18 3.50-3.96 164-169 14.4
18 18 U Southern California 27 12 3.47-3.71 165-167 12.4
19 19 Washington U (MO) 29* 3.30-3.80 161-168 10.7
20 28* George Washington U 32 22* 3.41-3.86 163-168 14.2
21 23* U Illinois (UIUC) 22* 3.20-3.90 160-167 13.1
22* 20* Boston U 19* 3.50-3.83 164-167 12.1
22* 20* Emory U (GA) 29* 3.37-3.68 165-167 10.5
22* 20* U Minnesota-Twin Cities 19 21 3.30-3.85 160-168 11.9
22* 23* U Notre Dame (IN) 18 46* 3.36-3.74 163-167 10.9
26 26* U Iowa 19* 3.43-3.81 158-164 15.5
27 23* Indiana U-Bloomington 40* 3.26-3.83 156-165 9.5
28* 26* Boston College 32* 3.34-3.68 163-167 13.2
28* 28* William and Mary (VA) 37* 3.42-3.77 161-166 15.7
28* 35* UC Davis 32* 3.23-3.72 160-165 11.6
28* 35* U Georgia 31 3.40-3.80 161-165 12.2
28* 30* U North Carolina 32* 3.43-3.73 157-164 15.4
28* 35* U Wisconsin-Madison 22* 3.31-3.76 156-163 12.7
34* 30* Fordham U (NY) 26* 3.37-3.74 162-167 13.6
34* 35* Ohio State U 8 32* 3.49-3.81 158-164 13.3
34* 30* U Washington 3.47-3.80 160-166 10.0
34* 30* Washington & Lee U 32* 3.28-3.73 160-167 9.4
38* 55* Arizona State U 40* 3.34-3.78 158-163 8.5
38* 30* U Alabama 3.32-3.90 159-165 10.2
38* 45* U Colorado-Boulder 40* 3.42-3.78 160-165 11.5
38* 40 Wake Forest U (NC) 3.20-3.70 160-164 9.8
42* 41* Brigham Young U (UT) 3.52-3.85 161-166 17.3
42* 41* George Mason U (VA) 26* 3.21-3.83 158-165 13.2
42* 43* U Arizona (Rogers) 40* 3.34-3.71 159-163 12.6
42* 39 UC (Hastings) 11 29* 3.39-3.71 161-165 16.5
42* 45* U Utah 3.41-3.76 156-163 8.1
47 51 U Florida 46* 3.42-3.85 158-163 15.4
48* 45* American U (DC) 46* 3.13-3.56 158-164 13.4
48* 49* Southern Methodist U 3.24-3.84 155-165 14.9
48* 45* Tulane U (LA) 40* 3.34-3.75 160-164 14.1
48* 43* U Maryland 3.21-3.66 159-166 11.7
52* 55* Pepperdine U (CA) 3.43-3.79 160-163 16.0
52* 49* Yeshiva U (Cardozo) 28 3.37-3.73 160-165 15.6
54* 51 Florida State U 3.23-3.74 159-162 14.2
54* 52* U Connecticut 3.20-3.59 158-162 11.4
56* 55* Case Western Reserve 3.20-3.63 159-160 12.2
56* 71* Loyola (Los Angeles) 3.31-3.67 157-163 14.8
56* 52* U Cincinnati 3.29-3.79 156-161 9.9
56* 61* U San Diego 22* 3.22-3.59 158-162 14.2
60* 65* Georgia State U 3.20-3.78 159-162 10.7
60* 59* U Houston 3.08-3.62 159-162 11.8
60* 71* U Miami (FL) 3.25-3.66 155-159 16.5
60* 59* U Tennessee-Knoxville 3.28-3.77 157-161 13.9
64* 65* Baylor U (TX) 3.40-3.80 156-162 15.1
64* 61* Lewis and Clark (OR) 3.20-3.71 157-164 10.0
64* 55* U Kentucky 3.33-3.82 156-161 16.8
67* 61* Brooklyn Law School 46* 3.26-3.63 159-164 18.4
67* 65* U Kansas 3.25-3.71 155-160 12.4
67* 77* U New Mexico 3.12-3.67 152-158 11.3
67* 71* U Pittsburgh 3.18-3.63 157-161 12.9
67* 61* Villanova U (PA) 3.17-3.63 160-163 17.0
72* 65* Pennsylvania State U 3.28-3.68 157-160 9.4
72* 77* Seton Hall U (NJ) 3.13-3.64 154-160 15.4
72* 87* St. John's U (NY) 3.16-3.73 154-162 14.6
72* 65* Temple U (PA) 3.11-3.61 159-163 13.0
72* >100 U Hawaii 3.18-3.68 153-158 7.8
72* 71* U Oklahoma 3.29-3.72 155-161 14.2
78* 87* Loyola U Chicago 3.24-3.60 156-161 14.3
78* 75* U Nevada-Las Vegas 3.18-3.66 155-160 16.8
80* 77* IIT (Chicago-Kent) 37* 3.11-3.67 156-163 10.9
80* 75* Louisiana State U 3.22-3.66 155-159 17.5
80* 77* Rutgers-Camden (NJ) 3.18-3.70 158-162 11.8
80* 87* Rutgers-Newark (NJ) 3.09-3.60 155-161 17.6
80* 77* U Denver (Sturm) 3.23-3.69 155-160 15.5
80* 77* U Oregon 3.12-3.56 157-161 16.4
86* 100* Hofstra University 3.27-3.70 155-159 15.4
86* 87* Indiana U-Indianapolis 3.15-3.70 151-159 17.7
86* 94* Northeastern U (MA) 3.20-3.63 155-163 15.4
86* 77* Seattle U 3.15-3.63 155-160 12.3
86* >100 Syracuse University 3.13-3.51 153-157 10.9
86* 94* U of Arkansas-Fayetteville 3.16-3.74 153-158 12.2
86* 77* U Richmond (VA) 3.19-3.63 159-163 13.8
93* >100 Chapman University (CA) 3.11-3.56 156-159 8.9
93* 85* Santa Clara U (CA) 3.03-3.59 157-161 17.8
93* 65* U Missouri-Columbia 3.24-3.70 156-161 16.8
93* >100 U Nebraska-Lincoln 3.29-3.82 154-158 13.6
93* >100 West Virginia University 3.12-3.70 151-156 12.9
98* 94* Catholic U (DC) 3.13-3.55 156-160 12.8
98* 87* DePaul U (IL) 3.09-3.53 154-161 13.3
98* 98* U of San Francisco 3.12-3.57 155-160 15.2
98* >100 University of the Pacific 3.05-3.58 153-159 14
98* >100 William Mitchell College of Law (MN) 3.19-3.60 150-158 20.4
>100 85* U at Buffalo-SUNY 3.19-3.73 153-159 15.3
>100 87* Marquette U (WI) 3.07-3.61 154-159 19.1
>100 87* U South Carolina 3.13-3.65 149-155 12.3
>100 94* St. Louis U 3.16-3.61 153-159 16.5
>100 98* U Louisville (KY) 3.14-3.73 153-159 15.4
>100 100* Gonzaga University 3.05-3.51 153-157 15.3
>100 100* University of Maine 3.06-3.61 152-158 14.2


I chose to keep SUNY Buffalo and Pitt in there as they are good regional schools that have affordable tuition in areas that can likely support the 150 or whatever attorneys coming from the schools each year.

Also, this didn't have the visual effect that I was hoping for.

Davis has been axed, lol.
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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby General Tso » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:58 pm

you axed hastings but not davis? :evil:

you and I are through A'nold

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby A'nold » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:59 pm

General Tso wrote:you axed hastings but not davis? :evil:

you and I are through A'nold


Lol. I meant to axe both though I am partial to Hastings. It was hard to axe that school as it is the oldest in the state and very respected. They did reject my transfer app., however....... :twisted: :wink:

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Postby androstan » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:49 pm

A'nold wrote:Let's figure this out b/c I'm bored. I also have to change my opinion that every state gets one b/c there are a few where it makes no sense.:

Alabama 1. U. of Alabama
Alaska ?????? Maybe but I'll just assume out.
Arizona 2. U. of Arizona
Arkansas 3. Arkansas-Fayetteville
California 4. Stanford, 5. Berkeley, 6. UCLA, I'm adding USC at the bottom.
Colorado 7. UC-Boulder
Connecticut 8. UConn, lol, I forgot to add Yale.
Delaware ?????
Florida 9. UF, 10. FSU
Georgia 11. Emory, 12. UGA
Hawaii 13. Hawaii (this one was a maybe but the classes are pretty small)
Idaho 14. U. of Idaho
Illinois 15. U. of Chicago, 16. Northwestern, 17. UIUC
Indiana 18. Indiana
Iowa 19. Iowa
Kansas 20. Kansas
Kentucky 21. Kentucky
Louisiana 22. Tulane (based on history, but this is up for debate b/c LSU is a state school). For now I will include LSU as well. 23. LSU
Maine- 24. U. of Maine
Maryland- 25. GULC, 26. GWU, 27. Maryland
Massachusetts- 28. Harvard, 29. BU, 30. BC
Michigan- 31. U. of Michigan
Minnesota- 32. Minn
Mississippi- 33. Ole Miss
Missouri- 34. WUSTL, 35. Mizzou
Montana- 36. Montana
Nebraska- 37. Nebraska
Nevada- 38. UNLV
New Hampshire ??????
New Jersey- 39. Pick one of the Rutgers.
New Mexico- 40. New Mexico
New York- 41. Columbia, 42. NYU, 43. Fordham, forgot to add Cornell.
North Carolina 44. Duke, 45. UNC
North Dakota 46. North Dakota
Ohio 47. OSU, 48. Cinci
Oklahoma- 49. Oklahoma
Oregon- 50. Oregon
Pennsylvania- 51. Penn, 52. Temple
Rhode Island-???????
South Carolina- 53. USC
South Dakota- 54. South Dakota
Tennessee- 55. Vandy, 56. U. of Tennessee
Texas- 57. UT, 58. Houston (no offense to SMU)
Utah- 59. BYU, 60. U. of Utah
Vermont- ?????? I don't like how expensive U. of Vermont is. Maybe a state school for NH, VT.
Virginia- 61. UVA, 62. William and Mary, 63. Washington & Lee
Washington- 64. UW
West Virginia- 65. WVU
Wisconsin- 66. U. of Wisconsin
Wyoming- 67. Wyoming
68. I forgot to add USC under CA.
69. Yale.
70. Cornell.

I know I forgot some but here you go, 70 or so law schools.


New Hampshire = University of New Hampshire

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Postby missinglink » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:54 pm

General Tso wrote:you axed hastings but not davis? :evil:

you and I are through A'nold

I take umbrage as well. :|

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby A'nold » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:39 pm

missinglink wrote:
General Tso wrote:you axed hastings but not davis? :evil:

you and I are through A'nold

I take umbrage as well. :|

It's already fixed my rabid Hastings friends. :)

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby ggocat » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:04 pm

Albany has received about 20% fewer applications this year.

this. perhaps a reflection that the economy is actually improving overall (or is perceived to improve).

Reducing the class size is intended to help the school preserve the academic qualifications of the new class, . . .

um, ok.

. . . and to ensure they have access to jobs when they graduate, said Guernsey.

:lol:


Also, RM, maybe it wasn't your intention, but thanks for starting the weekly "OMG, LAW SCHOOLS NEED TO SHUT DOWN! --- OMG, WHY DOESN'T THE ABA DO SOMETHING? --- LOL ANTITRUST" thread.

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby dreakol » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:25 pm

blink wrote:would state legislatures ever take this issue on?



doubtful and I doubt many people would support this.

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Postby dreakol » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:28 pm

A'nold wrote:Let's figure this out b/c I'm bored. I also have to change my opinion that every state gets one b/c there are a few where it makes no sense.:

Alabama 1. U. of Alabama
Alaska ?????? Maybe but I'll just assume out.
Arizona 2. U. of Arizona
Arkansas 3. Arkansas-Fayetteville
California 4. Stanford, 5. Berkeley, 6. UCLA, I'm adding USC at the bottom.
Colorado 7. UC-Boulder
Connecticut 8. UConn, lol, I forgot to add Yale.
Delaware ?????
Florida 9. UF, 10. FSU
Georgia 11. Emory, 12. UGA
Hawaii 13. Hawaii (this one was a maybe but the classes are pretty small)
Idaho 14. U. of Idaho
Illinois 15. U. of Chicago, 16. Northwestern, 17. UIUC
Indiana 18. Indiana
Iowa 19. Iowa
Kansas 20. Kansas
Kentucky 21. Kentucky
Louisiana 22. Tulane (based on history, but this is up for debate b/c LSU is a state school). For now I will include LSU as well. 23. LSU
Maine- 24. U. of Maine
Maryland- 25. GULC, 26. GWU, 27. Maryland
Massachusetts- 28. Harvard, 29. BU, 30. BC
Michigan- 31. U. of Michigan
Minnesota- 32. Minn
Mississippi- 33. Ole Miss
Missouri- 34. WUSTL, 35. Mizzou
Montana- 36. Montana
Nebraska- 37. Nebraska
Nevada- 38. UNLV
New Hampshire ??????
New Jersey- 39. Pick one of the Rutgers.
New Mexico- 40. New Mexico
New York- 41. Columbia, 42. NYU, 43. Fordham, forgot to add Cornell.
North Carolina 44. Duke, 45. UNC
North Dakota 46. North Dakota
Ohio 47. OSU, 48. Cinci
Oklahoma- 49. Oklahoma
Oregon- 50. Oregon
Pennsylvania- 51. Penn, 52. Temple
Rhode Island-???????
South Carolina- 53. USC
South Dakota- 54. South Dakota
Tennessee- 55. Vandy, 56. U. of Tennessee
Texas- 57. UT, 58. Houston (no offense to SMU)
Utah- 59. BYU, 60. U. of Utah
Vermont- ?????? I don't like how expensive U. of Vermont is. Maybe a state school for NH, VT.
Virginia- 61. UVA, 62. William and Mary, 63. Washington & Lee
Washington- 64. UW
West Virginia- 65. WVU
Wisconsin- 66. U. of Wisconsin
Wyoming- 67. Wyoming
68. I forgot to add USC under CA.
69. Yale.
70. Cornell.

I know I forgot some but here you go, 70 or so law schools.


care to explain why temple over Pitt?

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby classix » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:44 am

legal_eagle wrote:
flcath wrote:
OGR3 wrote:
A'nold wrote:It would be cool to see what the profession would be like if, by law, there could only be 100 law schools in the country, each state being allowed at least 1. There would still be multiple law schools in CA and probably TX but wouldn't it be cool if, say, all of the Florida schools but UF and maybe FSU were cut?


The only way I'd be okay with something like this is if Cooley was still allowed to stay open.

Expound on this, plz




Cooley is ranked number 2 of course they would stay open


Obviously. Too bad though, their library would make a kick-ass warehouse.

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby A'nold » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:38 am

dreakol wrote:
A'nold wrote:Let's figure this out b/c I'm bored. I also have to change my opinion that every state gets one b/c there are a few where it makes no sense.:

Alabama 1. U. of Alabama
Alaska ?????? Maybe but I'll just assume out.
Arizona 2. U. of Arizona
Arkansas 3. Arkansas-Fayetteville
California 4. Stanford, 5. Berkeley, 6. UCLA, I'm adding USC at the bottom.
Colorado 7. UC-Boulder
Connecticut 8. UConn, lol, I forgot to add Yale.
Delaware ?????
Florida 9. UF, 10. FSU
Georgia 11. Emory, 12. UGA
Hawaii 13. Hawaii (this one was a maybe but the classes are pretty small)
Idaho 14. U. of Idaho
Illinois 15. U. of Chicago, 16. Northwestern, 17. UIUC
Indiana 18. Indiana
Iowa 19. Iowa
Kansas 20. Kansas
Kentucky 21. Kentucky
Louisiana 22. Tulane (based on history, but this is up for debate b/c LSU is a state school). For now I will include LSU as well. 23. LSU
Maine- 24. U. of Maine
Maryland- 25. GULC, 26. GWU, 27. Maryland
Massachusetts- 28. Harvard, 29. BU, 30. BC
Michigan- 31. U. of Michigan
Minnesota- 32. Minn
Mississippi- 33. Ole Miss
Missouri- 34. WUSTL, 35. Mizzou
Montana- 36. Montana
Nebraska- 37. Nebraska
Nevada- 38. UNLV
New Hampshire ??????
New Jersey- 39. Pick one of the Rutgers.
New Mexico- 40. New Mexico
New York- 41. Columbia, 42. NYU, 43. Fordham, forgot to add Cornell.
North Carolina 44. Duke, 45. UNC
North Dakota 46. North Dakota
Ohio 47. OSU, 48. Cinci
Oklahoma- 49. Oklahoma
Oregon- 50. Oregon
Pennsylvania- 51. Penn, 52. Temple
Rhode Island-???????
South Carolina- 53. USC
South Dakota- 54. South Dakota
Tennessee- 55. Vandy, 56. U. of Tennessee
Texas- 57. UT, 58. Houston (no offense to SMU)
Utah- 59. BYU, 60. U. of Utah
Vermont- ?????? I don't like how expensive U. of Vermont is. Maybe a state school for NH, VT.
Virginia- 61. UVA, 62. William and Mary, 63. Washington & Lee
Washington- 64. UW
West Virginia- 65. WVU
Wisconsin- 66. U. of Wisconsin
Wyoming- 67. Wyoming
68. I forgot to add USC under CA.
69. Yale.
70. Cornell.

I know I forgot some but here you go, 70 or so law schools.


care to explain why temple over Pitt?

I added Pitt up above, didn't you see that?

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby reasonable_man » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:47 am

ggocat wrote:
Albany has received about 20% fewer applications this year.

this. perhaps a reflection that the economy is actually improving overall (or is perceived to improve).

Reducing the class size is intended to help the school preserve the academic qualifications of the new class, . . .

um, ok.

. . . and to ensure they have access to jobs when they graduate, said Guernsey.

:lol:


Also, RM, maybe it wasn't your intention, but thanks for starting the weekly "OMG, LAW SCHOOLS NEED TO SHUT DOWN! --- OMG, WHY DOESN'T THE ABA DO SOMETHING? --- LOL ANTITRUST" thread.



Always glad to fan the flames.

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby crazycanuck » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:56 pm

Having lots of schools with lots of students who have to work hard and compete for jobs isn't the problem, I would even go so far as to say it's healthy for the legal profession. What IS the problem is charging 50k+ per year in tuition alone.

Graduates should have to do extremely well to get the good jobs, but limiting legal education is not the answer.

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby A'nold » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:48 pm

crazycanuck wrote:Having lots of schools with lots of students who have to work hard and compete for jobs isn't the problem, I would even go so far as to say it's healthy for the legal profession. What IS the problem is charging 50k+ per year in tuition alone.

Graduates should have to do extremely well to get the good jobs, but limiting legal education is not the answer.


Compare two other schools though: MBA schools and MD. People can get an MBA from like University of Phoenix online and an MBA outside of top schools impresses nobody. An MD impresses regardless of where it is earned and there is a high demand for medical doctors.

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby crazycanuck » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:24 pm

A'nold wrote:
crazycanuck wrote:Having lots of schools with lots of students who have to work hard and compete for jobs isn't the problem, I would even go so far as to say it's healthy for the legal profession. What IS the problem is charging 50k+ per year in tuition alone.

Graduates should have to do extremely well to get the good jobs, but limiting legal education is not the answer.


Compare two other schools though: MBA schools and MD. People can get an MBA from like University of Phoenix online and an MBA outside of top schools impresses nobody. An MD impresses regardless of where it is earned and there is a high demand for medical doctors.


Is there a problem with this? I don't see any.

I'm not quite sure I understand your point. I'm not sure why we want to compare those two other schools? (Is there one? Maybe I have been staring at my work computer too long)

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby dreakol » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:43 pm

A'nold wrote:
dreakol wrote:
A'nold wrote:
care to explain why temple over Pitt?

I added Pitt up above, didn't you see that?


I meant in your first round.

just curious about the thought process.

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby A'nold » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:27 pm

dreakol wrote:
A'nold wrote:
dreakol wrote:
A'nold wrote:
care to explain why temple over Pitt?

I added Pitt up above, didn't you see that?


I meant in your first round.

just curious about the thought process.

Thought process = forgot.

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby bigkahuna2020 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:51 pm

May already have been said, but saying "due to in this economy" is so improper it is painful---and this isn't grammar, just how a natural language is structured

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Re: TTT to admit fewer students due to ITE

Postby bigkahuna2020 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:54 pm

A'nold wrote:Let's figure this out b/c I'm bored. I also have to change my opinion that every state gets one b/c there are a few where it makes no sense.:

New Jersey- 39. Pick one of the Rutgers.


I know I forgot some but here you go, 70 or so law schools.


One law school for a state of 8.5 million that has a pretty vibrant legal market? Same as New Mexico, Wyoming and Delaware?




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