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MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
Got my fall grades back and my best estimate (ok, I know the fact that I have to estimate outs me as going to Penn, wtvr) is that I am .025-.075 below the median.
Assuming no change in this situation next semester, how am I likely to do if I bid NYC?
I also don't really know how steep the curve is, where do you think I rank in the class?
Assuming no change in this situation next semester, how am I likely to do if I bid NYC?
I also don't really know how steep the curve is, where do you think I rank in the class?
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
Anonymous User wrote:(ok, I know the fact that I have to estimate outs me as going to Penn, wtvr)
Generic advice: Bid conservatively (less selective + large summer classes); research, research, research; dress well; interview well. You'll probably be ok.
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
How likely you do in NYC will depend on two things:
1) How well you interview/whether you have work experience/softs/etc.
2) Which firms you bid on. Bid smart, and don't waste all your top bids on the V10.
I think point #2 is more important.
1) How well you interview/whether you have work experience/softs/etc.
2) Which firms you bid on. Bid smart, and don't waste all your top bids on the V10.
I think point #2 is more important.
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OP: I'm pleased to hear it but, given your screen name, should I be frightened?Unemployed wrote:Anonymous User wrote:(ok, I know the fact that I have to estimate outs me as going to Penn, wtvr)
Generic advice: Bid conservatively (less selective + large summer classes); research, research, research; dress well; interview well. You'll probably be ok.
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Nah.Anonymous User wrote:OP: I'm pleased to hear it but, given your screen name, should I be frightened?Unemployed wrote:Anonymous User wrote:(ok, I know the fact that I have to estimate outs me as going to Penn, wtvr)
Generic advice: Bid conservatively (less selective + large summer classes); research, research, research; dress well; interview well. You'll probably be ok.
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
Your GPA is 3.24-3.32?
If so, v30 will be possible, but a reach. Spread your bids across v30-v100.
If so, v30 will be possible, but a reach. Spread your bids across v30-v100.
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
isn't that a little optimistic/shouldn't he bid further down than that? i thought median was lucky enough already to just land any market-rate job.Anonymous User wrote:Your GPA is 3.24-3.32?
If so, v30 will be possible, but a reach. Spread your bids across v30-v100.
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V30-V100 in NYC are probably some of the least grade-selective market rate jobs...TigerBeer wrote:isn't that a little optimistic/shouldn't he bid further down than that? i thought median was lucky enough already to just land any market-rate job.Anonymous User wrote:Your GPA is 3.24-3.32?
If so, v30 will be possible, but a reach. Spread your bids across v30-v100.
Also, there's no appreciable difference in selectivity in that grouping. It's not like V80s are dipping a lot, or any, lower than V50s. In many cases, the lower Vault rank firms are way more selective than the higher Vault ranks (for example, Patterson Belknap >>> Dewey).
Also, bidding on a lot of smaller (non-Vault) firms is a great way to strike out at OCI. If you have medianish grades the best paths are 1) mass-mail smaller markets where you have ties and 2) bid non-selective firms in NYC.
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
I'm not sure, Penn doesn't provide any way of converting grades to GPA. My best guess is that I'm on the low end of that or slightly lower.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Your GPA is 3.24-3.32?
If so, v30 will be possible, but a reach. Spread your bids across v30-v100.
V30-V100 in NYC are probably some of the least grade-selective market rate jobs...
Also, there's no appreciable difference in selectivity in that grouping. It's not like V80s are dipping a lot, or any, lower than V50s. In many cases, the lower Vault rank firms are way more selective than the higher Vault ranks (for example, Patterson Belknap >>> Dewey).
Also, bidding on a lot of smaller (non-Vault) firms is a great way to strike out at OCI. If you have medianish grades the best paths are 1) mass-mail smaller markets where you have ties and 2) bid non-selective firms in NYC.
What firms should I target? Have to make sure to go to those receptions and start doing my recon.
Here are the things I primarily care about:
A) Pays market
B) Is in NYC or LA (although LA is a much tougher nut to crack so I won't waste bids unless I have a good shot)
I will also mass mail a smaller market to which I have ties but the firms from there don't do OCI at Penn.
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
While we're on the topic, what's Penn's median?
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OP: I think we would all like to know. In creating this thread my assumption was that first semester median was somewhere between 3.25-3.3 (I hear 2nd semester is somewhat higher b/c of the un-curved elective).mrm2083 wrote:While we're on the topic, what's Penn's median?
What would that be?
A-, B+, B, B? B+, B+, B+, B? Either?
Hell, I'm just guessing that I'm below median anyway, could be wrong.
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
I heard it falls somewhere between a B and B+ which would put it lower then that. Hopefully what I heard is right lol. I hate that they can't just tell us.
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OP:mrm2083 wrote:I heard it falls somewhere between a B and B+ which would put it lower then that. Hopefully what I heard is right lol. I hate that they can't just tell us.
Don't both my examples fall between a B and B+?
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if you are personable, pretty much a lock for something within the V100.
ETA: I know a lot of people with these grades and worse with multiple offers in the V50 (No LR or WE).
ETA: I know a lot of people with these grades and worse with multiple offers in the V50 (No LR or WE).
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
I hope you are right. What makes you think this?Anonymous User wrote:if you are personable, pretty much a lock for something within the V100.
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personal experience.Anonymous User wrote:I hope you are right. What makes you think this?Anonymous User wrote:if you are personable, pretty much a lock for something within the V100.
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
well a B is 3 and a B+ is 3.3, so i would think like 3.25 to 3.33 would be on the higher side, hopefully
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Yah, but I thought that it was closer to the B+ then the B. You hear different?mrm2083 wrote:well a B is 3 and a B+ is 3.3, so i would think like 3.25 to 3.33 would be on the higher side, hopefully
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
To put on a spin on this, same situation and assume the 1L is a UVA student.
Does this change the chances at V100 NYC?
Does this change the chances at V100 NYC?
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Re: MVP, less than 1/10 point below median, chances at NYC V100?
I dunno I always just heard between a B and B+ so I just figured in the middle. Either way I'd say median is probably closer to 3.25 than 3.3 (based on people I've talked to)
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OP: Its almost certainly below 3.3. Sorry, I think I misread what you were saying. It being closer to 3.25 than 3.3 makes sense.mrm2083 wrote:I dunno I always just heard between a B and B+ so I just figured in the middle. Either way I'd say median is probably closer to 3.25 than 3.3 (based on people I've talked to)
I think some of it might come down to whether a B+ = 3.3 or 3.333.
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