Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

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Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:37 am

Would small stature make a bad impression on clients or colleagues? Do partners, like US Presidents, have to be taller than average?

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby jasonc. » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:40 am

assuming your a man? yes it would be better if you were taller and handsomer

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby sundance95 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:41 am

Yes, if under 5'7", your best option is to /self.

Honestly, there must be things that you can actually control that you could be worried about. I'm betting being a short guy who is overcompensating for/worrying about being the short guy would be more problematic than the height itself.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby 2Serious4Numbers » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:41 am

Yup. If you are below 6 feet you might as well not even go to lawl skool. Seriously, these threads are lolzy tonight

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby OGR3 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:42 am

I'm banking on height being a considerable factor in biglaw hiring. Otherwise, I'm screwed...

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby JazzOne » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:43 am

Anonymous User wrote:Would small stature make a bad impression on clients or colleagues? Do partners, like US Presidents, have to be taller than average?

I've met a few short partners. Most of them are pretty tall though.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby Lawquacious » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:44 am

lol at the "Does size matter" question. Seriously though, I think it is a reasonable question and that this could potentially affect someone's perception of you, but really what can you do about it? I'm sure there are some pretty short partners out there BTW.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby JaLeCa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:46 am

Soooo.....if you are ugly and/or short..you probably shouldn't consider studying law? harsh.

I'm just seeing this theme on the forums

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby OGR3 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:47 am

JaLeCa wrote:Soooo.....if you are ugly and/or short..you probably shouldn't consider studying law? harsh.

I'm just seeing this theme on the forums


The beautiful people go into business. The uglies go into law.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby 2Serious4Numbers » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:50 am

OGR3 wrote:
JaLeCa wrote:Soooo.....if you are ugly and/or short..you probably shouldn't consider studying law? harsh.

I'm just seeing this theme on the forums


The beautiful people go into business porn. The uglies go into law.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby Lawquacious » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:50 am

OGR3 wrote:
JaLeCa wrote:Soooo.....if you are ugly and/or short..you probably shouldn't consider studying law? harsh.

I'm just seeing this theme on the forums


The beautiful people go into business. The uglies go into law.


Were twice-gifted: ugliness and horrid personalities. :wink: (actually there are a lot of attractive lawyers out there, and prob some nice ones too :lol: )

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby Chris_cpb » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:52 am

Shorter men in professional fields are faced with a problem where their co-workers (usually bosses) will have the urge to call/think of them as 'kid' or names/symbols similar to this. These people should dress in a certain fashion that would depict a person who could not possibly be a kid, wearing clothes that only a grown man could wear. Unfortunately for some people, the reality that being tall (near 6" or above) is seen as a sign of dominance can play a negative role in one's overall persona.
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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby JaLeCa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:54 am

2Serious4Numbers wrote:
OGR3 wrote:
JaLeCa wrote:Soooo.....if you are ugly and/or short..you probably shouldn't consider studying law? harsh.

I'm just seeing this theme on the forums


The beautiful people go into business porn. The uglies go into law beast porn.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby OGR3 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:56 am

Chris_cpb wrote:According to an article I once read (googled couldn't find it) short men in professional fields are faced with a problem where their co-workers (usually bosses) will have the urge to call/think of them as 'kid' or names/symbols similar to this. The article mentioned how shorter men should dress in a certain fashion that would depict a person who could not possibly be a kid, wearing clothes that only a grown man could wear. I really wish I could remember the article because I think it would really help here; it gave quite a great deal of advice for men to avoid being seen as 'little' or 'inexperienced'.

Note that this could all be based on a poor study - just my 2c.


I call nearly everyone 'kid', though I think it's just because I tend to not be very formal.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby OGR3 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:56 am

JaLeCa wrote:
2Serious4Numbers wrote:
OGR3 wrote:
JaLeCa wrote:Soooo.....if you are ugly and/or short..you probably shouldn't consider studying law? harsh.

I'm just seeing this theme on the forums


The beautiful people go into business porn. The uglies go into law beast porn.


Credited.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby Lawquacious » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:57 am

JaLeCa wrote:
2Serious4Numbers wrote:
OGR3 wrote:
JaLeCa wrote:Soooo.....if you are ugly and/or short..you probably shouldn't consider studying law? harsh.

I'm just seeing this theme on the forums


The beautiful people go into business porn. The uglies go into law beast porn.

:shock:

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby Chris_cpb » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:09 am

I guess imo you don't 'have to be tall' to be exceptionally successful in any given professional field (besides bball), but the truth is, if you are 'short' you kind of need something to make up for it like being handsome, funny, or a badass.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:11 am

OP here. Guys, this is a legitimate concern. My grades are all A's and my LSAT was in the top 99.99%. I always have a perceived lack of stature compared to others of above average height so I've always compensated for it by phenomenal work ethic. It seems those who are taller always work less but can assume leadership position. Those who are shorter but more hard-working can only be secondary.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby IAFG » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:13 am

6'3"+ or enjoy DLA Piper

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby d34d9823 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:16 am

Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Guys, this is a legitimate concern. My grades are all A's and my LSAT was in the top 99.99%. I always have a perceived lack of stature compared to others of above average height so I've always compensated for it by phenomenal work ethic. It seems those who are taller always work less but can assume leadership position. Those who are shorter but more hard-working can only be secondary.

As someone said before, your insecurity will be a far greater detriment than your lack of height. That said, yes, attractive, tall people have an advantage in life.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby IAFG » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:19 am

OP has all the makings of a future serial killer

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby A'nold » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:19 am

I hope this helps me in interviews. 6'4 baby. Not ugly. :)

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby OGR3 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:20 am

Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Guys, this is a legitimate concern. My grades are all A's and my LSAT was in the top 99.99%. I always have a perceived lack of stature compared to others of above average height so I've always compensated for it by phenomenal work ethic. It seems those who are taller always work less but can assume leadership position. Those who are shorter but more hard-working can only be secondary.


Truthfully, I feel that people tend to gravitate toward people with more confidence. It might be easier to project confidence when you're 6'5" than 5'6", but it's still in your head. The best leader I've ever met was a good friend of mine who was no taller than 5'7". Granted, he used to be a sergeant in the Marines, but still, he dominates any room he walks into.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby sundance95 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:21 am

Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Guys, this is a legitimate concern. My grades are all A's and my LSAT was in the top 99.99%. I always have a perceived lack of stature compared to others of above average height so I've always compensated for it by phenomenal work ethic. It seems those who are taller always work less but can assume leadership position. Those who are shorter but more hard-working can only be secondary.

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Re: Does height matter for success in BigLaw?

Postby JazzOne » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:21 am

Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Guys, this is a legitimate concern. My grades are all A's and my LSAT was in the top 99.99%. I always have a perceived lack of stature compared to others of above average height so I've always compensated for it by phenomenal work ethic. It seems those who are taller always work less but can assume leadership position. Those who are shorter but more hard-working can only be secondary.

I imagined an immigrant Asian voice as I was reading this post.




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