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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby dakatz » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:04 pm

beach_terror wrote:
traehekat wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Is it wrong that I feel so good right now?

I've got call back interviews with 4 v100 firms lined up over the next couple of weeks for 1L SA positions.

While the rest of my classmates are struggling over getting unpaid internships. I know it isn't nice but I feel extra cocky around school now.


Well, at least you have enough foresight to post anonymously...

Clear abuse of the anon, and he was outed. Sucker.


Ha. I KNEW it was the same loser who made an entire thread just to talk about how he felt so good about beating his classmates. Look through his post history. Nearly every post is about how he is better than you because he goes to Columbia. Lol, the idiot even started one post with "I feel like a god right now"

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby beach_terror » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:06 pm

dakatz wrote:Ha. I KNEW it was the same loser who made an entire thread just to talk about how he felt so good about beating his classmates. Look through his post history. Nearly every post is about how he is better than you because he goes to Columbia. Lol, the idiot even started one post with "I feel like a god right now"

Here's to hoping second semester will smack him and teach him a valuable lesson about humility. I tend to think that law school feeds on cockiness and rewards the humble.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby dakatz » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:12 pm

beach_terror wrote:
dakatz wrote:Ha. I KNEW it was the same loser who made an entire thread just to talk about how he felt so good about beating his classmates. Look through his post history. Nearly every post is about how he is better than you because he goes to Columbia. Lol, the idiot even started one post with "I feel like a god right now"

Here's to hoping second semester will smack him and teach him a valuable lesson about humility. I tend to think that law school feeds on cockiness and rewards the humble.


I guess I never realized how important and how admirable humility is until you see such terrible cockiness around you (Mr. 4 callbacks being a prime example). Makes me so appreciative that my parents stressed humility to me since I was young.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby goosey » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:14 pm

am i the only one without a summer job still?

sure feels like it.

will likely NOT be getting that judicial internship [massive interview fail]--i will be surprised if I get it...will ifnd out either way this week.

getting anxious now because I had put all my eggs in one basket.

is it too late to apply to more judges? :-/

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby dakatz » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:19 pm

goosey wrote:am i the only one without a summer job still?

sure feels like it.

will likely NOT be getting that judicial internship [massive interview fail]--i will be surprised if I get it...will ifnd out either way this week.

getting anxious now because I had put all my eggs in one basket.

is it too late to apply to more judges? :-/


Same boat unfortunately. A few judges told me they wait until March to interview so I hold out hope. I'm gonna try and rock the 2 interviews I have. If I get an offer on the spot, I'll be all too happy to accept.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby tarheel87 » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:16 pm

I have an interview coming up with a midlaw firm I really really want, but I just realized I have no idea what I'm going to do/ask/say/respond...

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby JazzOne » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:21 pm

tarheel87 wrote:I have an interview coming up with a midlaw firm I really really want, but I just realized I have no idea what I'm going to do/ask/say/respond...

Digest the website. Take a look at their clients. See if the website talks about any recent cases. Also, look carefully at the practice areas and make sure your questions and answers match up with the kinds of work the firm actually does. Call the recruiter and ask for a list of people you will be interviewing with. Then you can look up their profiles. It sounds stalkerish, but it's really not. For example, you don't want to bring up some case you read about on the website and then find out the attorney you're talking to works in a different department entirely. I scored some points with one interviewer because I asked him about a law review note he wrote years before. I wasn't trying to kiss ass. I was genuinely interested in the note, and he made a positive comment about me having "done my homework" before the interview. Some interviewers are turned off if you get too personal, so I wouldn't say anything like, "so, I noticed you were cum laude." But it's fine to probe the website for information, unanswered questions, and ice breakers.

Also, see if the firm has a NALP profile. The rule of thumb is not to ask any question that you could have found the answer to on your own.
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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby beach_terror » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:22 pm

goosey wrote:am i the only one without a summer job still?

sure feels like it.

will likely NOT be getting that judicial internship [massive interview fail]--i will be surprised if I get it...will ifnd out either way this week.

getting anxious now because I had put all my eggs in one basket.

is it too late to apply to more judges? :-/

oh hey neurotic goosey post... it's been awhile

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby goosey » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:44 pm

beach_terror wrote:
goosey wrote:am i the only one without a summer job still?

sure feels like it.

will likely NOT be getting that judicial internship [massive interview fail]--i will be surprised if I get it...will ifnd out either way this week.

getting anxious now because I had put all my eggs in one basket.

is it too late to apply to more judges? :-/

oh hey neurotic goosey post... it's been awhile



lol. I know. I've been a slacker this semester. After posting that I went and wrote a cover letter for a judge to feel like I was doing something to counter the feelings of loserhood.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby stayway » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:21 am

Don't worry guys...at this rate I feel like I won't have anything for the 1L summer.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:32 am

1L, top 10% at a t-25.

I sent out a ton of apps to fed courts and some firms that hire 1L's around 1/15, I knew it was late but I was hoping for one positive response. Now I've gotten rejections from about 2/3....where the hell should I be applying now in early February to end up with something good enough for biglaw next year?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Stanford4Me » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:23 am

Anonymous User wrote:1L, top 10% at a t-25.

I sent out a ton of apps to fed courts and some firms that hire 1L's around 1/15, I knew it was late but I was hoping for one positive response. Now I've gotten rejections from about 2/3....where the hell should I be applying now in early February to end up with something good enough for biglaw next year?

Firms don't care about what you do during your 1L summer.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby traehekat » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:36 am

tarheel87 wrote:I have an interview coming up with a midlaw firm I really really want, but I just realized I have no idea what I'm going to do/ask/say/respond...


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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby romothesavior » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:19 am

beach_terror wrote:
goosey wrote:am i the only one without a summer job still?

sure feels like it.

will likely NOT be getting that judicial internship [massive interview fail]--i will be surprised if I get it...will ifnd out either way this week.

getting anxious now because I had put all my eggs in one basket.

is it too late to apply to more judges? :-/

oh hey neurotic goosey post... it's been awhile

I lol'd.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Tangerine Gleam » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:06 am

Waiting for post-interview decisions is like waiting for grades all over again. It's gonna be a long few weeks (which is the timeline I was given). Now, as I wait and they conduct more interviews, I just keep wondering how many more people I'm up against for those 1 to 2 slots available at the jobs I really want.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby solotee » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:46 am

Also w/ out anything lined up yet. Starting to get a bit anxious. A few interviews/ screeners lined up, but at this point I'm willing to accept ANYTHING just to get the anxiety off my back :/

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby DeSimone » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:12 am

How long's a typical wait after a screening interview?

Do callbacks mostly take place during spring break or do they involve missing class?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby de5igual » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:30 am

DeSimone wrote:How long's a typical wait after a screening interview?

Do callbacks mostly take place during spring break or do they involve missing class?


you'll know about a callback typically within a day or so, and the callback takes place within a week or two.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby DeSimone » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:35 am

f0bolous wrote:
DeSimone wrote:How long's a typical wait after a screening interview?

Do callbacks mostly take place during spring break or do they involve missing class?


you'll know about a callback typically within a day or so, and the callback takes place within a week or two.

Thanks.

What is a typical callback/offer ratio (if there is one)?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Grizz » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:17 pm

DeSimone wrote:
f0bolous wrote:
DeSimone wrote:How long's a typical wait after a screening interview?

Do callbacks mostly take place during spring break or do they involve missing class?


you'll know about a callback typically within a day or so, and the callback takes place within a week or two.

Thanks.

What is a typical callback/offer ratio (if there is one)?


There isn't one. Depends on the firm. Some firms call back tons of people, so people offer most of the people they call back.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:22 pm

What can I still apply to?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Grizz » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What can I still apply to?


Ummm everything duder

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Tangerine Gleam » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:44 pm

DeSimone wrote:
f0bolous wrote:
DeSimone wrote:How long's a typical wait after a screening interview?

Do callbacks mostly take place during spring break or do they involve missing class?


you'll know about a callback typically within a day or so, and the callback takes place within a week or two.

Thanks.

What is a typical callback/offer ratio (if there is one)?


Yeah, I was asking this same question last week but I've learned that there definitely isn't one. And I think that the "usual" trends about 2L callbacks don't all hold true for 1L callbacks. Instead of getting an offer within a few days, most people I know who had 1L SA's in years previous didn't hear for weeks.

The firms don't have to rush as much to make a decision, which sucks for us because they can take a long time, during which they can interview however many damn people they please. Every 1L interested in Biglaw is probably interested in getting an SA, so all the firms really have to sacrifice is their partners' time (which is, of course, quite valuable). A firm could callback 10 people for 1 position if it wanted to.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby romothesavior » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:45 pm

rad law wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What can I still apply to?


Ummm everything duder

+1.

I really encourage people to apply to prosecutor's offices. I have had a lot of succes with them (0 dings, 4 interviews, and probably going to get a few more).

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby keg411 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:09 pm

romothesavior wrote:
rad law wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What can I still apply to?


Ummm everything duder

+1.

I really encourage people to apply to prosecutor's offices. I have had a lot of success with them (0 dings, 4 interviews, and probably going to get a few more).


Agreed w/romo. These are really great 1L summer jobs, even if you aren't interested in crim long term.




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