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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Bronte » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:18 pm

Richie Tenenbaum wrote:
Bronte wrote:I did. I think it's pretty weird / nontraditional to discuss the particular judge in the body of the letter, but I could be wrong. The example cover letters I read were very formal and minimal, even compared to firm letters.


+1

If it's a bankruptcy judge or state criminal court, maybe switch the cover letter around a little to show your level of interest, but my content for all federal district judges was the same.


Yeah for bankruptcy chambers I switched up the wording a little bit to emphasize business analysis, but even that was very minimal.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby solotee » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:56 am

I need to hang out in this thread more. Haven't really done anything in terms of applying for internships yet.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby traehekat » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:43 pm

solotee wrote:I need to hang out in this thread more. Haven't really done anything in terms of applying for internships yet.


It's tough to muster up any motivation before you get grades. I recently just started to get the ball moving on summer employment, and my impression is that we aren't really too far behind for most stuff (any shot a larger firm in a major market, if they existed, is probably out the window, though).

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby random5483 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:47 pm

traehekat wrote:
solotee wrote:I need to hang out in this thread more. Haven't really done anything in terms of applying for internships yet.


It's tough to muster up any motivation before you get grades. I recently just started to get the ball moving on summer employment, and my impression is that we aren't really too far behind for most stuff (any shot a larger firm in a major market, if they existed, is probably out the window, though).



A lot of small/mid size firms I applied to have told me they will hold my application till march/april before they begin reviewing them. Your shot at big firms and prestigious judicial internships are probably very low now. But many smaller firms and state court judges are still hiring interns to the best of my knowledge.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby bjsesq » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:49 pm

Phone interview for a Fed PD position today. Gimme good luck, people.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby keg411 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:52 pm

bjsesq wrote:Phone interview for a Fed PD position today. Gimme good luck, people.


Congrats on the interview and good luck :).

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby sundevil77 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:26 pm

Glad to see that there is a lot of discussion about applying for judicial internships because I have some questions...

First, I am right that judicial interns don't get stipends? My school has given us some info on federal work-study (more loan money?), but I haven't seen anything on a stipend.

Do you think it would be better to spend a summer with a judge at the District Court vs. something like the County Prosecutor's office (small stipend), Governor's office (small stipend), AG's office (stipend/unpaid), small firm (small wage)? I'm wondering which of these positions offers better intangible benfits in terms of legal writing skills, looking good on a resume, or simply better exposure to real legal work.

I'm particularly concerned about this because the application deadlines for all of these positions is roughly around the same date. The only thing is, we're told that if we apply for a judicial internship, we must accept the position if offered. I don't want to apply only to decide that I'd rather be working for someone else.

I know we're just a bunch of 1Ls, but does anyone have helpful advice on this?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby BarbellDreams » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:42 pm

A district court judge is generally > pretty much anything else you can realistically get as a 1L unless you go to a t14. Big Firms or USAO is likely better, but thats not as realistic.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby goosey » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:50 pm

had an interview yesterday...find out monday about 2nd round. and also find out monday if i made it to the 2nd round for the firm fellowship ::crosses fingers::

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby BarbellDreams » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:53 pm

goosey wrote:had an interview yesterday...find out monday about 2nd round. and also find out monday if i made it to the 2nd round for the firm fellowship ::crosses fingers::


Congrats goosey, you sound like you're in a good spot for this summer's search.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby goosey » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:55 pm

BarbellDreams wrote:
goosey wrote:had an interview yesterday...find out monday about 2nd round. and also find out monday if i made it to the 2nd round for the firm fellowship ::crosses fingers::


Congrats goosey, you sound like you're in a good spot for this summer's search.


thanks! in honesty though, not really...those are the only two things I applied for. I havent even written my cover letter yet. I think I am unreasonably believing one of the two will pan out--quite ridiculous considering the judicial internship picks like 5 ppl from all nyc school and the firm one..well obviously, that one is going to be insane. I need to apply to more places.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Grizz » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:50 am

1L OCI bids due at 2 tomorrow. 17 firms, 15 bids to spread out. Not bidding on govt. Should be interesting.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby traehekat » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:21 am

rad law wrote:1L OCI bids due at 2 tomorrow. 17 firms, 15 bids to spread out. Not bidding on govt. Should be interesting.


Speaking of which, what is everyone else seeing as far as 1L OCI turnout? I know this isn't necessarily indicative of much (other than the already known fact that most places don't hire 1Ls), but I'm still kinda curious.

We had only 5 firms, 2 govt, 2 resume collections.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby moandersen » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:42 am

traehekat wrote:
rad law wrote:1L OCI bids due at 2 tomorrow. 17 firms, 15 bids to spread out. Not bidding on govt. Should be interesting.


Speaking of which, what is everyone else seeing as far as 1L OCI turnout? I know this isn't necessarily indicative of much (other than the already known fact that most places don't hire 1Ls), but I'm still kinda curious.

We had only 5 firms, 2 govt, 2 resume collections.


all approximates because Im too lazy to look on simplicity this morning....

10 firms, 2 govt, 2 PI, 1 resume collect

for some reason there are a good number of alabama firms coming :?:

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Grizz » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:07 am

Tell you what yall, if I actually get any 1L OCI interviews, I'll make a thread.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby BarbellDreams » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:47 am

Our school has no 1L OCI. They had a career panel yesterday with attorneys who basically said the market is bad and you should look at temp work or paralegal jobs for now.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby D. H2Oman » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:51 am

BarbellDreams wrote:Our school has no 1L OCI. They had a career panel yesterday with attorneys who basically said the market is bad and you should look at temp work or paralegal jobs for now.



To be fair you're not really missing much, I don't if I call 17 firms an OCI

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby D. H2Oman » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:51 am

D. H2Oman wrote:
BarbellDreams wrote:Our school has no 1L OCI. They had a career panel yesterday with attorneys who basically said the market is bad and you should look at temp work or paralegal jobs for now.



To be fair you're not really missing much, I don't if I call 17 firms an OCI



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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby PirateCap'n » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:49 pm

moandersen wrote:
traehekat wrote:
rad law wrote:1L OCI bids due at 2 tomorrow. 17 firms, 15 bids to spread out. Not bidding on govt. Should be interesting.


Speaking of which, what is everyone else seeing as far as 1L OCI turnout? I know this isn't necessarily indicative of much (other than the already known fact that most places don't hire 1Ls), but I'm still kinda curious.

We had only 5 firms, 2 govt, 2 resume collections.


all approximates because Im too lazy to look on simplicity this morning....

10 firms, 2 govt, 2 PI, 1 resume collect

for some reason there are a good number of alabama firms coming :?:


The Alabama thing caught my eye too. You also have to remember that our OCI runs through the end of March or so, so firms still have a good amount of time to get their stuff in.
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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Grizz » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:23 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
BarbellDreams wrote:Our school has no 1L OCI. They had a career panel yesterday with attorneys who basically said the market is bad and you should look at temp work or paralegal jobs for now.



To be fair you're not really missing much, I don't if I call 17 firms an OCI


Some schools have 17 firms at 2L lolci. But yes, 17 firms is eh. Apparently it's way up for us over last yr. though.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Aqualibrium » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:52 pm

Reason there are so many Alabama firms is because Alabama firms traditionally hire a lot of 1L's...

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby goosey » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:33 pm

Got axed from the firm fellowship today..not as disappointed as I thought I would be, considering the opportunity. Maybe bc I knew how competitive it was...

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby bjsesq » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:14 pm

Got an offer at a PD office. Pretty excited.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby keg411 » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:31 pm

bjsesq wrote:Got an offer at a PD office. Pretty excited.


Congrats!

Also, finally snagged a Fed court internship interview :D.
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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby bjsesq » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:15 pm

keg411 wrote:
bjsesq wrote:Got an offer at a PD office. Pretty excited.


Congrats!

Also, finally snagged a Fed clerkship interview :D.

Well done.




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