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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby YourCaptain » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:15 am

mths wrote:
snowpeach06 wrote:Well, I bit the bullet and asked my top choice job what was up. Unfortunately I did it through e-mail, and now I have a near heart attack every time I see the little (1). I probably should have just called.

That (1) has brought me so much misery


The little red LED on my blackberry was both my salvation and my own personal hell for a solid month.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby snowpeach06 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:52 pm

YourCaptain wrote:
mths wrote:
snowpeach06 wrote:Well, I bit the bullet and asked my top choice job what was up. Unfortunately I did it through e-mail, and now I have a near heart attack every time I see the little (1). I probably should have just called.

That (1) has brought me so much misery


The little red LED on my blackberry was both my salvation and my own personal hell for a solid month.

Yup. And the place still hasn't gotten back to me so the (1), or being forced to go more than 20 minutes without checking my e-mail, continues to be torture. Its almost as bad as it was when I was waiting to hear from law schools.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby gwuorbust » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:13 pm

gwuorbust wrote:
I noticed this after I posted but was being dominated in Con Law so didn't edit.

and yeah you are right. but I think that all three will be substantial, so I guess it probably will not matter that much which option I go with as long as I can talk about it.


just offered to interview for an RA position. Tis paid but is, in theory, full time and so I think I'll pass in favor of the DA position. Might see if I can work weekends lol..how long is a 90 hour work week sustainable?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby stratocophic » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:20 pm

gwuorbust wrote:
gwuorbust wrote:
I noticed this after I posted but was being dominated in Con Law so didn't edit.

and yeah you are right. but I think that all three will be substantial, so I guess it probably will not matter that much which option I go with as long as I can talk about it.


just offered to interview for an RA position. Tis paid but is, in theory, full time and so I think I'll pass in favor of the DA position. Might see if I can work weekends lol..how long is a 90 hour work week sustainable?
~5 years or until you're pushed out, if accounts from current associates are to be believed

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby gwuorbust » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:25 pm

stratocophic wrote:
gwuorbust wrote:
gwuorbust wrote:
I noticed this after I posted but was being dominated in Con Law so didn't edit.

and yeah you are right. but I think that all three will be substantial, so I guess it probably will not matter that much which option I go with as long as I can talk about it.


just offered to interview for an RA position. Tis paid but is, in theory, full time and so I think I'll pass in favor of the DA position. Might see if I can work weekends lol..how long is a 90 hour work week sustainable?
~5 years or until you're pushed out, if accounts from current associates are to be believed


so what you're telling me is that I should try to work both jobs?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby stratocophic » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:31 pm

gwuorbust wrote:
stratocophic wrote:
gwuorbust wrote:
gwuorbust wrote:
I noticed this after I posted but was being dominated in Con Law so didn't edit.

and yeah you are right. but I think that all three will be substantial, so I guess it probably will not matter that much which option I go with as long as I can talk about it.


just offered to interview for an RA position. Tis paid but is, in theory, full time and so I think I'll pass in favor of the DA position. Might see if I can work weekends lol..how long is a 90 hour work week sustainable?
~5 years or until you're pushed out, if accounts from current associates are to be believed


so what you're telling me is that I should try to work both jobs?
More just getting excited about ENJOYING DLA Piper the hours that come hand in hand with the type of legal employment I will surely secure, what with coming from a preftigious top 20 law school and all.

I dunno, maybe if you need the money or are super interested in the topic. Evidently being an RA isn't exactly a magic bullet for OCI, so I don't think there's any need to do it if you'd rather enjoy the summer

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Coolgrnmen » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:42 pm

stratocophic wrote:More just getting excited about ENJOYING DLA Piper the hours that come hand in hand with the type of legal employment I will surely secure, what with coming from a preftigious top 20 law school and all.

I dunno, maybe if you need the money or are super interested in the topic. Evidently being an RA isn't exactly a magic bullet for OCI, so I don't think there's any need to do it if you'd rather enjoy the summer

...says the tiger to the rabbit. It's always better to do something law related than nothing. I haven't heard anything to the contrary from employers.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby stratocophic » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:53 pm

Coolgrnmen wrote:
stratocophic wrote:More just getting excited about ENJOYING DLA Piper the hours that come hand in hand with the type of legal employment I will surely secure, what with coming from a preftigious top 20 law school and all.

I dunno, maybe if you need the money or are super interested in the topic. Evidently being an RA isn't exactly a magic bullet for OCI, so I don't think there's any need to do it if you'd rather enjoy the summer

...says the tiger to the rabbit*. It's always better to do something law related than nothing. I haven't heard anything to the contrary from employers.
He'll be working at the DA's office. Most of the discussion I've seen re: RAs implies that the positions might not, or even usually do not, have a lot of the kind of substantive work employers are looking for.

*Very, very doubtful we'll be competing for the same jobs this fall

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby YourCaptain » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:46 pm

mistergoft wrote:Being an RA, for all intents and purposes, is indistinguishable to working for the DA in terms of how it is going to influence your OCI performance. Do something that is going to give you good fodder for conversation during interviews (of course, you want to talk about how the work improved you and makes you marketable, rather than just rambling on about some project...*). Although, if you're looking into clerking, being an RA is probably more valuable than working for the DA.

*a lesson I learned a bit too late


The bolded is the most important aspect of it, according to the hiring partners I've spoken to. They all had very negative views of RA positions.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Helmholtz » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:10 pm

YourCaptain wrote:
mistergoft wrote:Being an RA, for all intents and purposes, is indistinguishable to working for the DA in terms of how it is going to influence your OCI performance. Do something that is going to give you good fodder for conversation during interviews (of course, you want to talk about how the work improved you and makes you marketable, rather than just rambling on about some project...*). Although, if you're looking into clerking, being an RA is probably more valuable than working for the DA.

*a lesson I learned a bit too late


The bolded is the most important aspect of it, according to the hiring partners I've spoken to. They all had very negative views of RA positions.


And the bolded is the reason that upperclassmen have told me to steer clear of RA's, provided you could find other decent legal work.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:47 pm

This is to encourage anyone still looking for PI jobs. I struck out at OCI, which I went through despite my ambivalence toward biglaw, and today was offered an internship with one of the largest nonprofits in my city. Organizations are definitely still hiring-- it's worth following up.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby danidancer » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:50 pm

Yet another reason why I hate the 1L summer job search process. Accepted a job that I didn't really want three weeks ago. Just got an offer for one of my top choices today with no interview or communication of any kind since I sent them my resume. :cry:

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby beach_terror » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:59 pm

STILL UNEMPLOYED LOL

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby swc65 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:18 pm

beach_terror wrote:STILL UNEMPLOYED LOL



Me too. I am waiting on two firms to get back to me. I had callbacks at both. If i dont get these, screw it. I am taking the summer off.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby YourCaptain » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:29 pm

danidancer wrote:Yet another reason why I hate the 1L summer job search process. Accepted a job that I didn't really want three weeks ago. Just got an offer for one of my top choices today with no interview or communication of any kind since I sent them my resume. :cry:


Type of jobs?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby drdolittle » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:29 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
YourCaptain wrote:
mistergoft wrote:Being an RA, for all intents and purposes, is indistinguishable to working for the DA in terms of how it is going to influence your OCI performance. Do something that is going to give you good fodder for conversation during interviews (of course, you want to talk about how the work improved you and makes you marketable, rather than just rambling on about some project...*). Although, if you're looking into clerking, being an RA is probably more valuable than working for the DA.

*a lesson I learned a bit too late

The bolded is the most important aspect of it, according to the hiring partners I've spoken to. They all had very negative views of RA positions.

And the bolded is the reason that upperclassmen have told me to steer clear of RA's, provided you could find other decent legal work.

It comes down to what's meant by "other decent legal work." In reality, the choice often seems to be RAing or nothing. Or are you suggesting there's always some decent legal work available that's better than being an RA? I don't think so...

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby danidancer » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:50 pm

YourCaptain wrote:
danidancer wrote:Yet another reason why I hate the 1L summer job search process. Accepted a job that I didn't really want three weeks ago. Just got an offer for one of my top choices today with no interview or communication of any kind since I sent them my resume. :cry:


Type of jobs?


Without getting too specific, legal services vs. a DA's office. I was really hoping for litigation experience this summer, but I really don't think reneging on my acceptance of the legal services position is an option at this point. So disappointed.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby snowpeach06 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:10 pm

So, I need to write a one paragraph statement of interest. I'm not entirely sure even what that is. Do I talk about myself? Do I genuinely say why I'm interested in the position? Do I do both?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby anonymcoffee » Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:15 pm

for personal interest statement - I'd focus for the most part on praising the place and how amazing they are and the awesome things they will do for you (peppered in with some info about you refining skills etc). My only interview (and offer) was with an office that I gushed all over how great they were - people like to hear things about themselves and really...what can you say differently about yourself that other candidates wont goodluck!

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby snowpeach06 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:23 pm

This job opportunity is awesome... but the company is of the type that its hard to praise. You guys would laugh if I could post it here. But, I probably can't.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby beach_terror » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:48 pm

Welp, one more job application out. Edging closer and closer to unemployment for this summer. AWESOME. I guess top 25% at a T2 after first semester makes me unemployable. What the fuck.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Grizz » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:49 pm

beach_terror wrote:Welp, one more job application out. Edging closer and closer to unemployment for this summer. AWESOME. I guess top 25% at a T2 after first semester makes me unemployable. What the fuck.

RA positions? Start calling small firms and every govt. bureau in town?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby beach_terror » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:51 pm

rad law wrote:
beach_terror wrote:Welp, one more job application out. Edging closer and closer to unemployment for this summer. AWESOME. I guess top 25% at a T2 after first semester makes me unemployable. What the fuck.

RA positions? Start calling small firms and every govt. bureau in town?

Multiple RA apps out. I have a small PI firm back up if I really want it, but I don't want it.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Grizz » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:52 pm

beach_terror wrote:
rad law wrote:
beach_terror wrote:Welp, one more job application out. Edging closer and closer to unemployment for this summer. AWESOME. I guess top 25% at a T2 after first semester makes me unemployable. What the fuck.

RA positions? Start calling small firms and every govt. bureau in town?

Multiple RA apps out. I have a small PI firm back up if I really want it, but I don't want it.

Ah, so you're not quite unemployable. Damn you may just have to take it bro.




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