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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Omerta » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:55 pm

Omerta wrote:What do you do about federal judges that are taking their sweet time to hire? I'm still in contention with 3 federal judges, all secondary markets. They haven't hired yet, but I still haven't gotten an interview with any of them. Emailed the clerks already and was told "judge will start reviewing applications soon." How do I handle this? It's getting really late in the year for me to hold out for one of them.

I struck out at 1L OCI and fed agencies, so what do I do now? Start looking at RA positions? I have a PT one locked down, working on trying to get another one. Should I start looking at state courts or smaller personal injury firms? I like PI work and I did a little of it before I went to law school. Any thoughts would be appreciated.


I'll try one more time since nobody bit; any advice?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Grizz » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:59 pm

Omerta wrote:
Omerta wrote:What do you do about federal judges that are taking their sweet time to hire? I'm still in contention with 3 federal judges, all secondary markets. They haven't hired yet, but I still haven't gotten an interview with any of them. Emailed the clerks already and was told "judge will start reviewing applications soon." How do I handle this? It's getting really late in the year for me to hold out for one of them.

I struck out at 1L OCI and fed agencies, so what do I do now? Start looking at RA positions? I have a PT one locked down, working on trying to get another one. Should I start looking at state courts or smaller personal injury firms? I like PI work and I did a little of it before I went to law school. Any thoughts would be appreciated.


I'll try one more time since nobody bit; any advice?


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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby lawloser22 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:01 pm

Omerta wrote:
Omerta wrote:What do you do about federal judges that are taking their sweet time to hire? I'm still in contention with 3 federal judges, all secondary markets. They haven't hired yet, but I still haven't gotten an interview with any of them. Emailed the clerks already and was told "judge will start reviewing applications soon." How do I handle this? It's getting really late in the year for me to hold out for one of them.

I struck out at 1L OCI and fed agencies, so what do I do now? Start looking at RA positions? I have a PT one locked down, working on trying to get another one. Should I start looking at state courts or smaller personal injury firms? I like PI work and I did a little of it before I went to law school. Any thoughts would be appreciated.


I'll try one more time since nobody bit; any advice?


I think your grades put you in serious contention for paid work. I would take a goosey-like approach and call up all midlaw firms in ATL to see if they'd be interested in a top 1% student from their city's top LS. Split it w/ a judge/RA.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Borhas » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:01 pm

Omerta wrote:
Omerta wrote:What do you do about federal judges that are taking their sweet time to hire? I'm still in contention with 3 federal judges, all secondary markets. They haven't hired yet, but I still haven't gotten an interview with any of them. Emailed the clerks already and was told "judge will start reviewing applications soon." How do I handle this? It's getting really late in the year for me to hold out for one of them.

I struck out at 1L OCI and fed agencies, so what do I do now? Start looking at RA positions? I have a PT one locked down, working on trying to get another one. Should I start looking at state courts or smaller personal injury firms? I like PI work and I did a little of it before I went to law school. Any thoughts would be appreciated.


I'll try one more time since nobody bit; any advice?


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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby hipstermafia » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:08 pm

Any 1Ls in here with IP related experience want to share your summer job situation?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby dudders » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:11 pm

nothing like hitting 5 p.m. on Friday when you've been anxiously checking phone/email for the past three days. interviewer said they'd make decisions by the end of the week ... no news is officially bad news at this point.

so depressing.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Omerta » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:46 pm

lawloser22 wrote:I think your grades put you in serious contention for paid work. I would take a goosey-like approach and call up all midlaw firms in ATL to see if they'd be interested in a top 1% student from their city's top LS. Split it w/ a judge/RA.


Super, thanks for the advice. I'll start making a list to call Monday. Thank god I spent spring break working so I can make random unsolicited calls all next week!

edit: goosey, I sent you an unsolicited pm. Hope that was ok.
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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby goosey » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:49 pm

Omerta wrote:
lawloser22 wrote:I think your grades put you in serious contention for paid work. I would take a goosey-like approach and call up all midlaw firms in ATL to see if they'd be interested in a top 1% student from their city's top LS. Split it w/ a judge/RA.


Super, thanks for the advice. I'll start making a list to call Monday. Thank god I spent spring break working so I can make random unsolicited calls all next week!



I literally did not do a single thing all of break--I have 2.5 days left to salvage the break. ugh

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby solotee » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:07 pm

I have the first half of my summer lined up (1L OCI).

I have an interview for a highly paid second half gig coming up on March 31st. I also have an offer for an unpaid internship with the DOJ for the second half of the summer. I need to respond to that offer within a few days.

What do I do? Do I decline the unpaid offer with the DOJ in hopes of landing that highly paid gig? Or do I accept the unpaid offer, be done with my summer job search and begin focusing on exams?

If it's relevant. First half of my summer is paid. I am 1 of 3 candidates at my school being considered for the highly paid 2nd half of the summer.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby mythosopher » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:31 pm

solotee wrote:I have the first half of my summer lined up (1L OCI).

I have an interview for a highly paid second half gig coming up on March 31st. I also have an offer for an unpaid internship with the DOJ for the second half of the summer. I need to respond to that offer within a few days.

What do I do? Do I decline the unpaid offer with the DOJ in hopes of landing that highly paid gig? Or do I accept the unpaid offer, be done with my summer job search and begin focusing on exams?

If it's relevant. First half of my summer is paid. I am 1 of 3 candidates at my school being considered for the highly paid 2nd half of the summer.

I thought DOJ didn't do split summers?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby solotee » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:37 pm

mythosopher wrote:
solotee wrote:I have the first half of my summer lined up (1L OCI).

I have an interview for a highly paid second half gig coming up on March 31st. I also have an offer for an unpaid internship with the DOJ for the second half of the summer. I need to respond to that offer within a few days.

What do I do? Do I decline the unpaid offer with the DOJ in hopes of landing that highly paid gig? Or do I accept the unpaid offer, be done with my summer job search and begin focusing on exams?

If it's relevant. First half of my summer is paid. I am 1 of 3 candidates at my school being considered for the highly paid 2nd half of the summer.

I thought DOJ didn't do split summers?


They usually don't, but they said they'll work with me.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby geekrocker37 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:45 pm

Didn't get in-house summer position, but more than happy to settle for PI program in my target city and a part time RA position. Should be enough to at least pay for the bar tab.

Now I just have to make sure the PI stigma doesn't follow me into OCI.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby SkepticalHippo » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:43 pm

Has anyone gotten a call with an offer from a judge that you previously interviewed with on the same day as you have an interview with another judge? What is the proper way to handle this situation if you want to accept the first offer? I'm assuming you should call, explain the situation, and cancel the interview with the second judge. In most cases, would the judge understand that there was really nothing you could have done to avoid this?

I am not in this situation, but I almost wish I was considering that it would mean I actually had an offer lol. A judge that I interviewed with said that he would get back to me(may be a bad sign though...) and I may be scheduling an interview with another judge soon, so I am a little bit worried about hearing from the first judge after scheduling an interview with the second.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby mythosopher » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:56 pm

Yes, call ahead and withdraw your application, explaining that you took another position elsewhere that day. If I were your interviewer, I'd be glad I didn't waste my time interviewing someone who didn't want the job.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby TTH » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:47 am

Tangerine Gleam wrote:Well, I've applied to zero jobs total at this point. :| However, I'm planning on applying for a bunch of gov't litigation jobs (USAO, state AG, city attorney) and some firms for the hell of it.

Is the consensus that firm cover letters should be quite brief and that public sector cover letters should go into somewhat greater detail about why I am interested in the particular position? The "sample" cover letters on my school's CDO site are pretty sparse.


My firm cover letters were a touch longer, but only because I wanted to drop something into the letter showing I'd done my research on the firm. A mock interviewer from a firm said it was a really good cover letter.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:28 pm

Forgot to post that I accepted a 1L SA. I'll be at a major market V15 this summer. No special background, no diversity. At a T14. Lots of my friends got 1L SA positions as well...looks like the market is improving?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby TTH » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Forgot to post that I accepted a 1L SA. I'll be at a major market V15 this summer. No special background, no diversity. At a T14. Lots of my friends got 1L SA positions as well...looks like the market is improving?


Congrats. Class rank?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby battle_tested » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Forgot to post that I accepted a 1L SA. I'll be at a major market V15 this summer. No special background, no diversity. At a T14. Lots of my friends got 1L SA positions as well...looks like the market is improving?


Did you and your friends just mass mail? Any specific strategy?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:44 pm

TTH wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Forgot to post that I accepted a 1L SA. I'll be at a major market V15 this summer. No special background, no diversity. At a T14. Lots of my friends got 1L SA positions as well...looks like the market is improving?


Congrats. Class rank?


Top 5%, but lots of my friends with lower grades got firm jobs.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby TTH » Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:19 pm

Anybody know when the NALP Directory will get updated?

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby beach_terror » Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:45 pm

geekrocker37 wrote:Didn't get in-house summer position, but more than happy to settle for PI program in my target city and a part time RA position. Should be enough to at least pay for the bar tab.

Now I just have to make sure the PI stigma doesn't follow me into OCI.

What PI program? I got dinged too, so high five bro.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby keg411 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:02 pm

TTH wrote:Anybody know when the NALP Directory will get updated?


Seriously, I've been waiting on this. Last year it updated in February :| .

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby jerjon2 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:04 pm

hipstermafia wrote:Any 1Ls in here with IP related experience want to share your summer job situation?


Hey, I'm a 1L at one of CCN and every IP person I know has a firm job and had at least 2-3 offers. Really good backgrounds and experiences though. 2 ChemEs and 2 EEs and one ME. I can say a bit more about my experiences personally if you want but I don't feel comfortable putting other people's business in the street so to speak.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby Holly Golightly » Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:29 pm

jerjon2 wrote:
hipstermafia wrote:Any 1Ls in here with IP related experience want to share your summer job situation?


Hey, I'm a 1L at one of CCN and every IP person I know has a firm job and had at least 2-3 offers. Really good backgrounds and experiences though. 2 ChemEs and 2 EEs and one ME. I can say a bit more about my experiences personally if you want but I don't feel comfortable putting other people's business in the street so to speak.

I have not been seeing the same luck for IP at NU. Offhand, I only know of a couple of 1Ls with a tech background who will be at firms.

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Re: 1L summer job application apathy/encouragement thread

Postby TTH » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:29 pm

keg411 wrote:
TTH wrote:Anybody know when the NALP Directory will get updated?


Seriously, I've been waiting on this. Last year it updated in February :| .


INORITE?

That's what I thought, too, but I was starting to wonder if I had imagined it all. NALP has been perfectly useless for 1L job searching this year.




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