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Absent poor work product/performance, a firm isn't going to spend $30k+ on you for a summer only to no-offer you because you got a B in your law & unicorns seminar.
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Nope, it's true. They told me that they didn't need me since they could fill their incoming class entirely with people who got an A- or better in fed courts. Thankfully, I was able to get a job with Cahill during 3L OGI.BruceWayne wrote:I hope this is a joke.Cavalier wrote:Sullcrom no-offered me for getting a B+ in fed courts my 2L year.
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What about a C+ in Bankruptcy? This might be pertinent to my situation.vamedic03 wrote:Absent poor work product/performance, a firm isn't going to spend $30k+ on you for a summer only to no-offer you because you got a B in your law & unicorns seminar.
Only half joking.
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what about weil gotshal?
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i think it's awesome that some peopel think you are seriousCavalier wrote:Nope, it's true. They told me that they didn't need me since they could fill their incoming class entirely with people who got an A- or better in fed courts. Thankfully, I was able to get a job with Cahill during 3L OGI.BruceWayne wrote:I hope this is a joke.Cavalier wrote:Sullcrom no-offered me for getting a B+ in fed courts my 2L year.
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playing with conflagrationsdood wrote:na, latham is secure EVEN IF u fuck up. they are desperate to erase the term "lathamed" from the history books asap, and are doing anything to restore their prestige - including 100% offering SAs.RVP11 wrote:Dangerous and Desperately Clinging to Remaining Prestige?Anonymous User wrote:any thoughts about firms in the sidley/latham/white&case range?
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Cavalier wrote:Nope, it's true. They told me that they didn't need me since they could fill their incoming class entirely with people who got an A- or better in fed courts. Thankfully, I was able to get a job with Cahill during 3L OGI.BruceWayne wrote:I hope this is a joke.Cavalier wrote:Sullcrom no-offered me for getting a B+ in fed courts my 2L year.
With Cahill doubling market bonuses these days, that unfortunate B+ may have been your ticket to a larger bottom line!
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I'm guessing you didn't end up going with the NLJ250 in your hometown then...RVP11 wrote:Dangerous and Desperately Clinging to Remaining Prestige?Anonymous User wrote:any thoughts about firms in the sidley/latham/white&case range?
To the OP, all you're going to get here is fruitless speculation, bullshit, and admonishments about using the search. The best thing I've ever heard on this topic is this: If your firm is looking to no-offer you anyway, and your grades dropped, look out. If they're looking to hire you, you're good. So bust your ass and make sure that by the end of the summer, they're looking for excuses to hire you.
Plus which, firms don't intimately know the curve at each school, so they might not see a "big" drop as too big a deal. Going from 3.5 to 3.3 at my school would take you from about top-10% to top-35%, but I bet most firms would look at that and say "eh, 0.2, who cares?" Just do your best and quit spazzin.
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This is just wrong. Paul Weiss has been tapped for major litigation related to the financial crisis, including work connected to Wall Street. In fact, that's probably 90% of what they're doing right now.Why is that strange? I thought that for people interested in NYC Paul Weiss was the holy grail (only grail?) for litigation work not related to wall street (outside of Cravath)?
It's difficult to tell whether you're joking or not. Sidley Austin and (yes, even) Latham enjoy a significant degree of prestige in the legal profession. It's fairly myopic to think that your perspective, that of a law student, represents what associates and partners think of these firms, and even what future law students will think of these firms when they interview. At the end of the day, both firms have an extremely talented partnership and are very well respected. Partners at other firms and general counsel of corporations don't really care that Latham laid off first years; in fact, a few of them possibly lauded the firms in private for such a shrewd move.RVP11 wrote:Dangerous and Desperately Clinging to Remaining Prestige?Anonymous User wrote:any thoughts about firms in the sidley/latham/white&case range?
As an example: Latham pretty much did the same thing during the recession of the 90s. Didn't seem to prevent them from becoming the "cool firm" three years ago. Law students have short attention spans.
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Paul Weiss is TTT. Paul Mitchell, on the other hand...A&O wrote:This is just wrong. Paul Weiss has been tapped for major litigation related to the financial crisis, including work connected to Wall Street. In fact, that's probably 90% of what they're doing right now.Why is that strange? I thought that for people interested in NYC Paul Weiss was the holy grail (only grail?) for litigation work not related to wall street (outside of Cravath)?
It's difficult to tell whether you're joking or not. Sidley Austin and (yes, even) Latham enjoy a significant degree of prestige in the legal profession. It's fairly myopic to think that your perspective, that of a law student, represents what associates and partners think of these firms, and even what future law students will think of these firms when they interview. At the end of the day, both firms have an extremely talented partnership and are very well respected. Partners at other firms and general counsel of corporations don't really care that Latham laid off first years; in fact, a few of them possibly lauded the firms in private for such a shrewd move.RVP11 wrote:Dangerous and Desperately Clinging to Remaining Prestige?Anonymous User wrote:any thoughts about firms in the sidley/latham/white&case range?
As an example: Latham pretty much did the same thing during the recession of the 90s. Didn't seem to prevent them from becoming the "cool firm" three years ago. Law students have short attention spans.
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COOL STORY BRO.A&O wrote:It's difficult to tell whether you're joking or not. Sidley Austin and (yes, even) Latham enjoy a significant degree of prestige in the legal profession. It's fairly myopic to think that your perspective, that of a law student, represents what associates and partners think of these firms, and even what future law students will think of these firms when they interview. At the end of the day, both firms have an extremely talented partnership and are very well respected. Partners at other firms and general counsel of corporations don't really care that Latham laid off first years; in fact, a few of them possibly lauded the firms in private for such a shrewd move.RVP11 wrote:Dangerous and Desperately Clinging to Remaining Prestige?Anonymous User wrote:any thoughts about firms in the sidley/latham/white&case range?
As an example: Latham pretty much did the same thing during the recession of the 90s. Didn't seem to prevent them from becoming the "cool firm" three years ago. Law students have short attention spans.
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Serious Question: Does RVP actually make a significant contribution to this place?
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No you.A&O wrote:Serious Question: Does RVP actually make a significant contribution to this place?
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RVP is mad.
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I think his point (such as there was one) was that it wasn't all that difficult to tell that he was joking...A&O wrote:Serious Question: Does RVP actually make a significant contribution to this place?
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Of course. Hence my question.SBL wrote:I think his point (such as there was one) was that it wasn't all that difficult to tell that he was joking...A&O wrote:Serious Question: Does RVP actually make a significant contribution to this place?
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he contributes to the marketplace of ideasA&O wrote:Serious Question: Does RVP actually make a significant contribution to this place?
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Marketplace of ideas may be the most absurd idea to have not been widely seen as absurd.dood wrote:he contributes to the marketplace of ideasA&O wrote:Serious Question: Does RVP actually make a significant contribution to this place?
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*browses Legal Employment forum for significant contributions*A&O wrote:Serious Question: Does RVP actually make a significant contribution to this place?
*finds nothing*
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Curious about this as well, although in the context of a 3L suffering offer rescission.RVP11 wrote:What about a C+ in Bankruptcy? This might be pertinent to my situation.vamedic03 wrote:Absent poor work product/performance, a firm isn't going to spend $30k+ on you for a summer only to no-offer you because you got a B in your law & unicorns seminar.
Only half joking.
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i think 3L with a post-summer offer is infinitely safer than 2L with only a summer offer.
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In the sense that a 3L with a post-summer offer is infinitely safe?Anonymous User wrote:i think 3L with a post-summer offer is infinitely safer than 2L with only a summer offer.
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...that was brilliant.
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