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firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:33 pm

which firms have been known to rescind/no-offer due to a drop in 2L grades? the only one i've heard consistently mentioned is GDC...

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby pasteurizedmilk » Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:57 pm

Yeah I could definitely use this info as well......

Looking at a major drop off in grades this semester.

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:00 pm

if an offer letter says that your grades still have to make you "eligible for full time consideration" or something like that, does that mean you still need to keep the rank they probably cut off for interviews (top 15-20%ish) or not to fail, get C's etc?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:40 pm

Do we know for sure that GDC cares about 2L grades?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:46 pm

no - but doing a quick google search most threads on forums that addressed the topic specifically singles out GDC as a firm that cares. this is consistent with my experience in oci that GDC was one of the firms that had extremely strict grade cut-offs and didn't give interviews to people below a certain gpa. whether or not GDC actually rescinds/no-offers based on 2L grades i'm not sure. anyone with information about GDC (or any other firm) please share!

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:00 pm

I know people who were no-offered from GDC on the basis of grades. That's about it.

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:08 pm

do you know how low they dropped?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:do you know how low they dropped?

No. Sorry.

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby BruceWayne » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:23 pm

dood wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I know people who were no-offered from GDC on the basis of grades. That's about it.


wtf is a "GDC"??


Probably Gibson Dunn Crutcher. I've been hanging out on this website too long.......


Somewhat related to the OP's question; since a lot of judges hire their clerks during fall of 3L, does that mean that one can get mediocre 1L grades but still get a federal clerkship because they substantially improved 2L? In addition, the same logic would apply to DOJ Honors, ADA positions, and AUSA positions correct?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Sup Kid » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:27 pm

GDC is Gibson Dunn & Crutcher.

As for offers, I think its important to realize that they look at your grades AFTER the summer. Therefore, if your summer work is great, grades will matter much less than if your work product is average or sub-par. My offer letter (V-30, NYC) says that they want to see our transcripts and "grades will be taken into consideration" but there is no cut-off listed, nor does it say anywhere that grades are anything other than one thing they take into account. Summary = try to keep your grades up, but don't panic if they slip, and work hard (and create good work product) over the summer.

Finally, most of these posts don't have to be anonymous...

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I know people who were no-offered from GDC on the basis of grades. That's about it.


How do you know that the no offer was on the basis of grades and not something else?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I know people who were no-offered from GDC on the basis of grades. That's about it.


How do you know that the no offer was on the basis of grades and not something else?


Because the firm told her and she told me?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:37 pm

any other v20 firms with a similar reputation?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Cavalier » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:40 pm

Sullcrom no-offered me for getting a B+ in fed courts my 2L year.

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Big Shrimpin » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:10 pm

Cavalier wrote:Sullcrom no-offered me for getting a B+ in fed courts my 2L year.


The old A- requirement, eh? Tough break.

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Blindmelon » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:29 pm

V5 - .1 drop is enough
V10 - .2 drop and so forth...

If you're working at anything below V50 - your grades probably couldn't get any lower given your schools curve and how badly you have to do to work at a non-V50.
do you guys seriously worry about this crap?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby BruceWayne » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:13 pm

Cavalier wrote:Sullcrom no-offered me for getting a B+ in fed courts my 2L year.



I hope this is a joke.

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby RVP11 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:this is consistent with my experience in oci that GDC was one of the firms that had extremely strict grade cut-offs and didn't give interviews to people below a certain gpa.


Consistent with my experience as well. Their hard cutoff at my school is probably higher than all but a select few V10 (and Paul Weiss, strangely).

Note: for LA and DC. I would guess they have to dip quite a bit lower for NY.

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby RVP11 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:40 pm

BruceWayne wrote:
Cavalier wrote:Sullcrom no-offered me for getting a B+ in fed courts my 2L year.



I hope this is a joke.


On that note, firms least likely to no-offer you, period: S&C, STB, DPW.

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:48 pm

any thoughts about firms in the sidley/latham/white&case range?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby BruceWayne » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:50 pm

RVP11 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:this is consistent with my experience in oci that GDC was one of the firms that had extremely strict grade cut-offs and didn't give interviews to people below a certain gpa.


Consistent with my experience as well. Their hard cutoff at my school is probably higher than all but a select few V10 (and Paul Weiss, strangely).

Note: for LA and DC. I would guess they have to dip quite a bit lower for NY.


Why is that strange? I thought that for people interested in NYC Paul Weiss was the holy grail (only grail?) for litigation work not related to wall street (outside of Cravath)?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby vamedic03 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:12 pm

BruceWayne wrote:
RVP11 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:this is consistent with my experience in oci that GDC was one of the firms that had extremely strict grade cut-offs and didn't give interviews to people below a certain gpa.


Consistent with my experience as well. Their hard cutoff at my school is probably higher than all but a select few V10 (and Paul Weiss, strangely).

Note: for LA and DC. I would guess they have to dip quite a bit lower for NY.


Why is that strange? I thought that for people interested in NYC Paul Weiss was the holy grail (only grail?) for litigation work not related to wall street (outside of Cravath)?


I think most people who want non-Wall Street litigation avoid NYC. That said, there are plenty of strong litigations shops in NYC outside of Paul Weiss.

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:21 pm

any thoughts about firms in the sidley/latham/white&case range?

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Re: firms that care about 2L grades

Postby RVP11 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:any thoughts about firms in the sidley/latham/white&case range?


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