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Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby bdubs » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:37 am

From the BTI Client Service A-Team 2011 report by The BTI Consulting Group Inc

"Law firms considered most arrogant by corporate counsel"

Arent Fox
Baker & McKenzie
Bartlit Beck
Cleary Gottlieb
Cravath Swaine
Fenwick & West
Ice Miller
Jackson Kelly
Jones Day
Kirkland & Ellis
McKool Smith
Perkins Coie
Simpson Thacher
Steptoe & Johnson
Weil Gotshal
White & Case
Williams & Connolly
Wilson Sonsini

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby JG Hall » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:47 am

bdubs wrote:From the BTI Client Service A-Team 2011 report by The BTI Consulting Group Inc

"Law firms considered most arrogant by corporate counsel"

Arent Fox
Baker & McKenzie
Bartlit Beck
Cleary Gottlieb
Cravath Swaine
Fenwick & West
Ice Miller
Jackson Kelly
Jones Day
Kirkland & Ellis
McKool Smith
Perkins Coie
Simpson Thacher
Steptoe & Johnson
Weil Gotshal
White & Case
Williams & Connolly
Wilson Sonsini

A few of these firms lack the presTTTige to be arrogant...

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby RVP11 » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:21 pm

JG Hall wrote:
bdubs wrote:From the BTI Client Service A-Team 2011 report by The BTI Consulting Group Inc

"Law firms considered most arrogant by corporate counsel"

Arent Fox
Baker & McKenzie

Bartlit Beck
Cleary Gottlieb
Cravath Swaine
Fenwick & West
Ice Miller
Jackson Kelly
Jones Day

Kirkland & Ellis
McKool Smith
Perkins Coie

Simpson Thacher
Steptoe & Johnson
Weil Gotshal
White & Case
Williams & Connolly
Wilson Sonsini

A few of these firms lack the presTTTige to be arrogant...

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby ToTransferOrNot » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:27 am

RVP11 wrote:
JG Hall wrote:
bdubs wrote:From the BTI Client Service A-Team 2011 report by The BTI Consulting Group Inc

"Law firms considered most arrogant by corporate counsel"

Arent Fox
Baker & McKenzie

Bartlit Beck
Cleary Gottlieb
Cravath Swaine
Fenwick & West
Ice Miller
Jackson Kelly
Jones Day

Kirkland & Ellis
McKool Smith
Perkins Coie

Simpson Thacher
Steptoe & Johnson
Weil Gotshal
White & Case
Williams & Connolly
Wilson Sonsini

A few of these firms lack the presTTTige to be arrogant...


I approve this list. Though query what Weil is going to do once Lehman is done.

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby A&O » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:53 am

I approve this list. Though query what Weil is going to do once Lehman is done.


...other bankruptcy cases because they're easily the best bankruptcy shop in the nation?

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby ToTransferOrNot » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:41 am

A&O wrote:
I approve this list. Though query what Weil is going to do once Lehman is done.


...other bankruptcy cases because they're easily the best bankruptcy shop in the nation?


Weil is almost certainly the best, but not "easily," (Spreyregan at Kirkland is a heavier hitter than any one individual Weil has, for example,) and not by leaps and bounds (Weil is not the WLRK of the bankruptcy world). Weil and Kirkland are at the top of the heap, Skadden floats around.

That's not the point though. The point is that Weil's current staffing may be inflated because Lehman was such a huge case. It will be interesting to see whether they can immediately find enough new cases to keep its larger-than-normal staff busy.

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:56 am

ToTransferOrNot wrote:
A&O wrote:
I approve this list. Though query what Weil is going to do once Lehman is done.


...other bankruptcy cases because they're easily the best bankruptcy shop in the nation?


Weil is almost certainly the best, but not "easily," (Spreyregan at Kirkland is a heavier hitter than any one individual Weil has, for example,)


Harvey Miller? NYTimes calls him the most prominent BK lawyer in the nation. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/busin ... .html?_r=1

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby A&O » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:13 am

Whether Kirkland is distant or close second doesn't matter. If, as the best bankruptcy shop, Weil can't get more business, then everyone's in trouble.

Re: Staffing: As far as I know, Weil's bankruptcy group isn't that big, and didn't grow significantly in response to the Lehman collapse. From what I gathered, they simply got help from attorneys in other departments, as bankruptcy work can be done by litigation and corporate associates.

Aside from all of that, there's still plenty of work to go around. For example, they're also handling the Blockbuster bankruptcy. And they, along with Kirkland, just advised General Growth.

The bigger worry for Weil should be how they will keep their other groups busy. Lehman might feed the mouths of the bankruptcy group, but that group is about 1/10th of the overall firm in terms of manpower.

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby ToTransferOrNot » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:20 am

Anonymous User wrote:
ToTransferOrNot wrote:
A&O wrote:
I approve this list. Though query what Weil is going to do once Lehman is done.


...other bankruptcy cases because they're easily the best bankruptcy shop in the nation?


Weil is almost certainly the best, but not "easily," (Spreyregan at Kirkland is a heavier hitter than any one individual Weil has, for example,)


Harvey Miller? NYTimes calls him the most prominent BK lawyer in the nation. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/busin ... .html?_r=1


Keep in mind, though; Harvey Miller has moved on to splitting his time between practice and administrative stuff, and Spreyregen is much, much younger than Miller (so he'll probably be around for much longer - Miller's in his late 70s, at this point).

The point is where does Weil go after Lehman - by the time Lehman wraps up, one really wonders whether Miller will be continuing to go full-steam. However, I'll admit that I should have noted him, because he and Spreyregen are at the same level for as long as Miller remains in practice.

A&O - when I was interviewing, I got the distinct impression that Weil grew its group to handle Lehman. Obviously, they pulled people in from other groups, too (that's the wonder of a strong debtor BK group - basically recession-proof, and in counter-cycles where there aren't as many BKs happening, you just hoarde everything about the case to your BK people,) but Lehman has enough bankruptcy-specific issues that can't be effectively farmed out.

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:56 am

ToTransferOrNot wrote:
A&O wrote:
I approve this list. Though query what Weil is going to do once Lehman is done.


...other bankruptcy cases because they're easily the best bankruptcy shop in the nation?


Weil is almost certainly the best, but not "easily," (Spreyregan at Kirkland is a heavier hitter than any one individual Weil has, for example,) and not by leaps and bounds (Weil is not the WLRK of the bankruptcy world). Weil and Kirkland are at the top of the heap, Skadden floats around.

That's not the point though. The point is that Weil's current staffing may be inflated because Lehman was such a huge case. It will be interesting to see whether they can immediately find enough new cases to keep its larger-than-normal staff busy.



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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby 911 crisis actor » Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:16 am

How come 75% of all threads on this forum turn into BK dick measuring contests

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby PDaddy » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:09 am

Paul Weiss? Wachtell Lipton? Morrison Foerster? How do they stack up?

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Re: Firms TLS aspires to...Corporate Counsel's "most arrogant"

Postby anonymous2012 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:29 pm

911 crisis actor wrote:How come 75% of all threads on this forum turn into BK dick measuring contests


Bk attorneys, and aspiring bk attorneys, have a lot of free time right now.




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