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Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby boston » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:03 pm

Does anyone have any examples of fellow graduates switching to other professions or industries as a result of the lack of legal employment (and I don't mean bartending :roll: )? Is a JD helpful in any other professions? Tried to find some research on it but it is quite difficult to find any concrete information.

Just to provide some context for why I am asking, I graduated from your typical small liberal arts college in the Northeast in 2009. No real jobs options at that particular time so I decided to go to a TTT as a result of financial aid that would allow me to go with very little debt. Seeing a lot of 3Ls at my school struggle to find any type of law-related job, I realize that it is very possible that I won't be able to get one as well (Nor do I have a strong desire to become an attorney).

I realize this could be a stupid question but I kinda of fell into law school and I am in the dark when it comes to various aspects of a legal career or the opportunities available after graduation.

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby D-ROCCA » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:07 pm

boston wrote:Nor do I have a strong desire to become an attorney


Not to be a dick, but you probably should have thought through the decision to go to law school a bit more. Most lawyers get non-legal jobs after they've practiced for at least a few years, and because they have valuable experience/training in other fields that puts them in a unique position to work in the non-legal field.

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby FunkyJD » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:10 pm

OP, legislative aide in your state capital is a definite option.

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby boston » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:11 pm

D-ROCCA wrote:
boston wrote:Nor do I have a strong desire to become an attorney


Not to be a dick, but you probably should have thought through the decision to go to law school a bit more. Most lawyers get non-legal jobs after they've practiced for at least a few years, and because they have valuable experience/training in other fields that puts them in a unique position to work in the non-legal field.


I understand that but hindsight is 20/20. Graduated in the spring of 2009 and there was nothing available jobs wise. Might have been a stupid move but I picked getting an advanced degree over working temp jobs with an undergrad degree that really wouldn't help me stand out in a crowded employment field.

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:16 pm

Let's see:
1. Working with the legislature (there are many positions related to this)
2. Investment banking/venture capital/investment firms/etc.
3. starting your own business
4. Working for corporations (oil, energy, environmental, insurance, heathcare, etc.) in a variety of capacities (advisor, consultant, mid-management, etc).
5. Broker (in a wide range of fields, although the classes you take in law school - and where you go - are really important)
6. Etc.

Many of these positions are not "easy" to get. However, if you have the qualifications, they are realistic options.

What did you get your advanced degree in?

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby boston » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:24 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:Let's see:
1. Working with the legislature (there are many positions related to this)
2. Investment banking/venture capital/investment firms/etc.
3. starting your own business
4. Working for corporations (oil, energy, environmental, insurance, heathcare, etc.) in a variety of capacities (advisor, consultant, mid-management, etc).
5. Broker (in a wide range of fields, although the classes you take in law school - and where you go - are really important)
6. Etc.

Many of these positions are not "easy" to get. However, if you have the qualifications, they are realistic options.

Thanks, this was the type of stuff I thinking about. Reading the conversations on the board about being "jobless" after graduation, I was wondering if that was referring to strictly legal careers or employment as a whole


Aberzombie1892 wrote:What did you get your advanced degree in?

I was referring to getting a JD

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby Black-Blue » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:32 pm

In general, having a JD doesn't help you get a job in other fields, unless it's a JD preferred field. A JD sometimes help you get into industries like consulting where a JD can be valued as a general label of ability, but top business firms only recruit from T10 schools, I've heard.

In many instances, having a JD will hinder your ability to find jobs in other fields because you are seen as indecisive or a flight risk.

For JD-preferred fields, law enforcement is a one that actually favors JDs. Another area is HR in a mega business/corporation that requires more sophistication than normal HR. Accounting is beginning to like JDs if you have a quantitative background, I've heard, but only in bigger firms.
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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby FunkyJD » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:34 pm

Journalism's another possibility as well. Especially in investigative reporting.

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Postby mpj_3050 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:42 pm

The Department of Defense hires contract specialists to negotiate weapons systems prices with manufacturers. They like people with business undergrad degrees but they hire a ton of lawyers - then again it would suck to spend 3 years in law school and get a job that undergrads with accounting degrees get, plus you don't practice law. A friend of mine works at an Air Force Base and started at 48k, 58k next year, and then 68k the 3rd year; normal pay increases after that. He works 37 hours a week and gets 3 hours for going to the gym. They are hiring a good number of them across the country but like everything else you have to have someone get your resume to the right people. I posted about this type of job before; great benefits, 60k in loan repayment and I'm sure you get the public service loan forgiveness as well.

Hell, if you hire me at 48k with loan repayment and a 37 hour work week it would be pretty good.

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby boston » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:54 pm

mpj_3050 wrote:The Department of Defense hires contract specialists to negotiate weapons systems prices with manufacturers. They like people with business undergrad degrees but they hire a ton of lawyers - then again it would suck to spend 3 years in law school and get a job that undergrads with accounting degrees get, plus you don't practice law. A friend of mine works at an Air Force Base and started at 48k, 58k next year, and then 68k the 3rd year; normal pay increases after that. He works 37 hours a week and gets 3 hours for going to the gym. They are hiring a good number of them across the country but like everything else you have to have someone get your resume to the right people. I posted about this type of job before; great benefits, 60k in loan repayment and I'm sure you get the public service loan forgiveness as well.

Hell, if you hire me at 48k with loan repayment and a 37 hour work week it would be pretty good.


Thanks for the information.

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Postby 20160810 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:14 pm

FunkyJD wrote:Journalism's another possibility as well. Especially in investigative reporting.

I wish this were true, I'd totally do it. Nobody pays for news anymore, and journalism is a dying field.

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Postby Grizz » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:07 pm

SBL wrote:
FunkyJD wrote:Journalism's another possibility as well. Especially in investigative reporting.

I wish this were true, I'd totally do it. Nobody pays for news anymore, and journalism is a dying field.

This. I get my news from the TLS Lounge.

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Postby Blindmelon » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:13 pm

Yea... I hear Suffolk is hurting. TTT and your name is Boston, so I assume its that. If so, tons of Suffolk grads in local state government. Seems like a good gig -

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Postby 20160810 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:34 pm

rad law wrote:
SBL wrote:
FunkyJD wrote:Journalism's another possibility as well. Especially in investigative reporting.

I wish this were true, I'd totally do it. Nobody pays for news anymore, and journalism is a dying field.

This. I get my news from the TLS Lounge.

I get mine from a nice mix of CNN.com/thinkprogress.org/fark.com/gawker/deadspin. The only news I pay for is Newsweek, and I've been a subscriber for years so they give me ridiculous renewal deals (pretty sure I'm paying less than $20/yr, which is a steal for a never-ending supply of toilet reading).

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby FunkyJD » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:01 pm

SBL wrote:
FunkyJD wrote:Journalism's another possibility as well. Especially in investigative reporting.

I wish this were true, I'd totally do it. Nobody pays for news anymore, and journalism is a dying field.

Without question, the journalism model is changing, but here's some food for thought; see below. Would I go to law school just for this? Heck no ... but it's something to consider if you've decided you don't want to practice law after graduation.

http://cubreporters.org/legal_journalism.html

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Postby Grizz » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:16 pm

FunkyJD wrote:
SBL wrote:
FunkyJD wrote:Journalism's another possibility as well. Especially in investigative reporting.

I wish this were true, I'd totally do it. Nobody pays for news anymore, and journalism is a dying field.

Without question, the journalism model is changing, but here's some food for thought; see below. Would I go to law school just for this? Heck no ... but it's something to consider if you've decided you don't want to practice law after graduation.

http://cubreporters.org/legal_journalism.html


Be like Elie Mystal - leave firm life to write race-baiting articles for a legal blog.

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby 20160810 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:32 pm

rad law wrote:
FunkyJD wrote:
SBL wrote:
FunkyJD wrote:Journalism's another possibility as well. Especially in investigative reporting.

I wish this were true, I'd totally do it. Nobody pays for news anymore, and journalism is a dying field.

Without question, the journalism model is changing, but here's some food for thought; see below. Would I go to law school just for this? Heck no ... but it's something to consider if you've decided you don't want to practice law after graduation.

http://cubreporters.org/legal_journalism.html


Be like Elie Mystal - leave firm life to write race-baiting articles for a legal blog.

His jokes are almost never funny.

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby GATORTIM » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:35 pm

rad law wrote:Be like Elie Mystal Mystikal

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Re: Non-legal careers for law school graduates.

Postby FunkyJD » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:36 pm

rad law wrote:Be like Elie Mystal - leave firm life to write race-baiting articles for a legal blog.


Funny.

GATORTIM wrote:
rad law wrote:Be like Elie Mystal Mystikal

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Hilarious and credited.

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Postby 20160810 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:43 pm

GATORTIM wrote:
rad law wrote:Be like Elie Mystal Mystikal

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Holy shit, evidently Mystikal has quite the rap sheet, even by rap standards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystikal#O ... prisonment

He's listed in the Wikipedia category "American sex offenders." :lol:

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Postby Grizz » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:59 pm

Hahaha great post Tim




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