How prestigious is an Article IV court?

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Re: How prestigious is an Article IV court?

Postby wiseowl » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:17 pm

XxSpyKEx wrote:
I would imagine western district of Washington would be really good for Seattle... I'm not sure why Washington was lumped into the same group as Montana, and somehow a district court in Utah is more prestigious than the western district of washington -- WTF? I think that dude is just trolling.


Seems like he specified Eastern District of Washington only, which is admittedly very rural. But yea, his choices were interesting.

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Re: How prestigious is an Article IV court?

Postby RVP11 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:19 am

wiseowl wrote:
XxSpyKEx wrote:
I would imagine western district of Washington would be really good for Seattle... I'm not sure why Washington was lumped into the same group as Montana, and somehow a district court in Utah is more prestigious than the western district of washington -- WTF? I think that dude is just trolling.


Seems like he specified Eastern District of Washington only, which is admittedly very rural. But yea, his choices were interesting.


Interesting in that they're all very rural?

Reading comprehension troubles abound ITT?
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Re: How prestigious is an Article IV court?

Postby RVP11 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:22 am

wiseowl wrote:
RVP11 wrote:But the quality of lawyers/judges in Utah >>> quality of lawyers/judges in most states. Throwing the District of Utah out there as a crappy federal district court is just asinine. There are some great legal minds among the Mormons.

If we want to talk about not-very-prestigious districts, let's look at Alaska, Rhode Island, E.D. Washington, Montana, North Dakota, and various small districts in the South and Midwest.


The Alaska Supreme Court is widely considered a pretty prestigious clerkship since they have so many cases of first impression.


FTFY.

D. Alaska =/= Alaska Supreme Court. This topic is about federal courts.

There's not nearly so much value to being in a district where there happens to be a lot of undecided issues. Issues of first impression are decided by appellate courts. D. Alaska clerks probably get somewhat more interesting work than in most small districts because of the lack of controlling law in certain areas, but what you were probably thinking about was the Alaska Supreme Court.

And if working issues of first impression is your thing, then any state supreme court >>>>>>>> any trial court. Alaska just happens to be the best state supreme court for that.

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Re: How prestigious is an Article IV court?

Postby wiseowl » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:11 am

RVP11 wrote:
wiseowl wrote:
RVP11 wrote:But the quality of lawyers/judges in Utah >>> quality of lawyers/judges in most states. Throwing the District of Utah out there as a crappy federal district court is just asinine. There are some great legal minds among the Mormons.

If we want to talk about not-very-prestigious districts, let's look at Alaska, Rhode Island, E.D. Washington, Montana, North Dakota, and various small districts in the South and Midwest.


The Alaska Supreme Court is widely considered a pretty prestigious clerkship since they have so many cases of first impression.


FTFY.

D. Alaska =/= Alaska Supreme Court. This topic is about federal courts.

There's not nearly so much value to being in a district where there happens to be a lot of undecided issues. Issues of first impression are decided by appellate courts. D. Alaska clerks probably get somewhat more interesting work than in most small districts because of the lack of controlling law in certain areas, but what you were probably thinking about was the Alaska Supreme Court.

And if working issues of first impression is your thing, then any state supreme court >>>>>>>> any trial court. Alaska just happens to be the best state supreme court for that.


I'll admit I was thinking more of the Alaska state courts, but I still don't think D.Alaska deserves to be the first name that you list on a list of crappy clerkships. They get a lot of unique native cases and it's obviously a great place to be for oil and gas if thats your interest. I find it interesting you're so high on Utah while the other Mountain West states are apparently garbage.

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Re: How prestigious is an Article IV court?

Postby RVP11 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:21 am

I didn't call any district court "crappy" or "garbage." An Article III clerkship anywhere is a good thing.

I have no special affinity for Utah. I just recognize it's a bigger/more important district than a lot of others out there.

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Re: How prestigious is an Article IV court?

Postby apl6783 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:26 pm

NU_Jet55 wrote:lol @ great legal minds living Utah...I don't care if Posner himself practiced in Utah, i still wouldn't let my dog live there.


Yea, because who likes pretty mountains, nice people, clean air, low living costs, great schools, interesting geological features (world's largest salt lake), and most importantly, endless ways to have fun in the outdoors (and as a result not having to look at fatasses like yourself every day of the week), including:

Fishing
Hiking
Skiing (deer valley and park city are 45 minutes away from SLC)
Climbing
Rafting
Kayaking
Canoeing
Hunting
Dirt bike riding
UFO Spotting

All that stuff sounds TERRIBLE. Who would want to live in a place like that when they can live in NYC - a city filled with 16 million self-centered assholes that is literally covered in feces (16 million people shit once-twice per day, that's between 20 and 30 million shits per day, and if you think all that shit travels very far from the city THINK AGAIN).

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Re: How prestigious is an Article IV court?

Postby dailygrind » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:49 pm

What an odd act of thread necromancy.




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